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tactlessbastard
Feb 4, 2001

Godspeed, post
Fun Shoe

SEKCobra posted:

Have you tried turning it on?

Lmao

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Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


Middleman to a middleman to a middleman is loving with my cashflow and expecting me to just take it. Why can I not let these things go and just ignore them? Why do I have to fight on principle despite it achieving nothing?

BaronVonVaderham
Jul 31, 2011

All hail the queen!
I need to enroll the people making decisions at this company in a formal logic course. It's either that or going postal.

This loving project has been in limbo for weeks. I was given a spreadsheet diagramming expected behavior. For each numbered case, there was a "logic" column that presented logical statements like "If they purchased a previous kit or scan product". Then there was a column of product codes to display in the filtered list (the whole project is building this filtering service to restrict the products that can be selected for the customer).

I discovered that this spreadsheet made no sense. Some of the cases were redundant; case 8 was the exact same as 6, but it added "and they previously purchased a kit or scan"....but if any of the other poo poo was true, this was true by default (they can't be in the case status being checked for if they never had one of these products). But there was also some overlap....the case just asking if they purchased a kit or scan would always be true for most of the other cases, and the product list was then appended to those. Then QA was unable to cope with this and refused to test things unless that spreadsheet was revised to PRECISELY spell out the exact behavior.

But the infuriating part.....they said go ahead and remove the redundant cases that add literally nothing. Fine. But then they just go "oh and if ___, just remove these product codes".

You can't be that anal about the spreadsheet and testing and then just say "just do this". In my experience, any time a non-programmer opens with "can't you just....", what follows is always a simple statement that is loving impossible to implement in code.

There's a reason the requirements are supposed to be stated as positive requirements. These scenarios should always be "if ____ is true, do this". The way I have this coded, I have a class method for each scenario that makes the checks and appends the products if they're met (if there's product overlap, I flatten the list later and remove duplicates).

It's just infuriating when they delay this poo poo for weeks, making me look bad because this 8-pointer keeps rolling over sprint to sprint, being needlessly pedantic about testing (it's not that loving hard to just see that your test case can satisfy more than one scenario), and yet now they just throw that out the window with a "can't you just...." impossible request :bang:

I just kicked it back to them with "you need to present this request like the rest of the acceptance criteria and revise these scenarios; I can't "just" remove products, you need to be precise about when these products SHOULD be shown, not when they shouldn't". I just want this to be over.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


poo poo pissing me off: After nearly a year of fending off poachers I've lost my extra cubicle/workbench

Something not pissing me off: One of my coworkers is leaving in a month and I will get his office.

Something else pissing me off: I may not be able to keep the office for very long, since we will be doing a remodel this fall and that office may not survive the process.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


I have almost limitless time for people who don't know a lot but are ambitious, I have a bit less time for people who don't seem to learn but otherwise have their hearts in the right place, but absolutely gently caress lazy pieces of poo poo who are happy to put in sod-all effort under the expectation that somebody else is going to do their job for them.

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine

Actuarial Fables posted:

Nothing like being handed a cum-stained laptop to start out a Monday morning.

...how in the hell?


Oh, say no more.

No, seriously, please don't :shudder:...

nexus6
Sep 2, 2011

If only you could see what I've seen with your eyes
I've never had a job where there were offices. Everything is open plan :(

chin up everything sucks
Jan 29, 2012

nexus6 posted:

I've never had a job where there were offices. Everything is open plan :(

Open plan has actually been proven to reduce productivity, but managers like it because it lets them catch people slacking slightly more often.

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


You mean because they can cram in more desks

nexus6
Sep 2, 2011

If only you could see what I've seen with your eyes

chin up everything sucks posted:

Open plan has actually been proven to reduce productivity

4 day weeks have shown to increase productivity too, but no manager I've ever worked for believed it.

Zil
Jun 4, 2011

Satanically Summoned Citrus


nexus6 posted:

4 day weeks have shown to increase productivity too, but no manager I've ever worked for believed it.

I always loved working 4x10s when it was offered, especially when overnight.

hihifellow
Jun 17, 2005

seriously where the fuck did this genre come from
You mean improved buzzword workflow and increased paradigm dynamics in a modern workplace layout no nobody involved in this decision is giving up their office why would you think that

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?

Collateral Damage posted:

Some PC servers have "hot"-swap RAM as well. You need to take the module offline first, which causes the memory controller to redistribute the content to the other modules, then you can swap it out and put it back online.

There are also some that support mirrored RAM configurations where the same data is stored in two sticks (meaning you effectively have half the available RAM) and the loss of a module theoretically doesn't cause any data loss. I've seen this on a lot of midrange and up servers, though never with actual hot swap support. I'd have to assume that any boards supporting "hot" swap of the modules also supports a mirrored mode.

Of course in reality just like with a RAID system it's always better to properly offline the component being replaced through the OS because there can still be unexpected hiccups if you just yank the hardware out.

Partycat
Oct 25, 2004

Sprechensiesexy posted:

F5 documentation "You want to run a trunk from the F5 to a vPC pair make sure LACP is set to passive"

*Sets LACP to passive*

*Trunk stays down*

*Sets LACP to active*

*Trunk comes up like it was fed a blue pill*

:fuckoff:

Gotta be active on one half of it dawg

Activate it extra good and it should go

E: “have you tried turning it off and never turning it on again and looking into a change of careers?”

fist4jesus
Nov 24, 2002

Proteus Jones posted:

He'll definitely have a SPARK system if he tries to hot-swap components.

Back in the day I hot swapped ide drives a few times on a desktop pc.

chin up everything sucks
Jan 29, 2012

nexus6 posted:

4 day weeks have shown to increase productivity too, but no manager I've ever worked for believed it.

As have 6 hour work days

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


chin up everything sucks posted:

As have 6 hour work days

I instituted a personal policy of 6 hour workdays 4 years ago and nobody's called me on it yet.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


wolrah posted:


Of course in reality just like with a RAID system it's always better to properly offline the component being replaced through the OS because there can still be unexpected hiccups if you just yank the hardware out.

It's amazing how often people use "the system should handle it" as an excuse/shortcut for doing things properly.

The drive that's blinking red is the bad one, let's just yank and replace, why go into the raid manager?

Restarting Windows shuts down the SQL service, why would we shutdown the service first before we initiate a restart?

We have multipathing on this VMWare host, why should we put it in maintenance mode before re-cabling one path?

"Mechanical sympathy" is a thing in the IT world and you should never lean on disaster level protections to do routine maintenance.

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

The first thing we do, let's kill all the cars.
Grimey Drawer

chin up everything sucks posted:

As have 6 hour work days

That's lazy millennial talk! Why don't you want to give up half of your waking life for a job that pays less than people were making thirty years ago?

Sounds like you just don't want to work!

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


bull3964 posted:


Restarting Windows shuts down the SQL service, why would we shutdown the service first before we initiate a restart?


I agree with your other examples, but why is this an issue?

A soft reboot/shutdown should gracefully shutdown any services. And while I have seen exceptions to this, it's usually lovely LOB applications not something ubiquitous like SQL Server.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Jaded Burnout posted:

I instituted a personal policy of 6 hour workdays 4 years ago and nobody's called me on it yet.

In a given week I'd say I do 15 minutes of actual work.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


The Fool posted:

I agree with your other examples, but why is this an issue?

A soft reboot/shutdown should gracefully shutdown any services. And while I have seen exceptions to this, it's usually lovely LOB applications not something ubiquitous like SQL Server.

The timeout is shorter. If you have a larger SQL instance, it may take longer to shutdown and unmount the DBs than the OS will wait for during a restart process. Windows won't wait forever for a service to stop on its own and may consider it hung and terminate when you really just have to wait longer.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


A third party hasn't made their change at the agreed time, well done all the people involved. Why does basic competence seem to be an unachievable goal?

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

Jaded Burnout posted:

You mean because they can cram in more desks


Open offices are cheaper, less stuff to buy and replace.
Open offices are cheaper to move desks around. (Less cubes to take apart)
Open offices allow you to cram as many people in as possible.
Open offices look more modern and sound better on paper.

And like a previous poster said, the people making the decisions rarely are sitting in the open office. Funny how that works.

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


xzzy posted:

In a given week I'd say I do 15 minutes of actual work.

I do more than he does, but here I'm not talking about actual work vs apparent work, I arrive at 9:30 and leave at 4:30 with an hour for lunch.

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

bull3964 posted:

The timeout is shorter. If you have a larger SQL instance, it may take longer to shutdown and unmount the DBs than the OS will wait for during a restart process. Windows won't wait forever for a service to stop on its own and may consider it hung and terminate when you really just have to wait longer.


Incredible, had no idea this was a thing. Makes so much more sense now on some past experiences.

Expecting a windows system to properly shut down a windows service isn't unreasonable though.

I am still going to remove a blinking red drive though because gently caress the world.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009
WFH is so good.

Had a great lasagna from last night with a beer for lunch, then went on a hour hike while answering slack occasionally from my phone.

Sormus
Jul 24, 2007

PREVENT SPACE-AIDS
sanitize your lovebot
between users :roboluv:
Weve tried to get our slavemasters to allow us 4x12h and 4 days off but they say no.
We currently do weird 8h shifts with 4d on, 1d off, 4d on, 1d off, 4d on, 6d off rotation

Sormus fucked around with this message at 23:59 on Jul 23, 2018

Corsair Pool Boy
Dec 17, 2004
College Slice
Office design chat:

My dad worked for DoI for a good 40 years (not IT, he used computers for decades writing and editing regulations and still types with two fingers). When they moved buildings, they ran out of space for his cube, but had an empty office. He did not rate an office, so they put a cube inside the office, effectively blocking the window.

I swear to God this is true.


Zil posted:

I always loved working 4x10s when it was offered, especially when overnight.

It's fan-loving-tastic. I'm about to go back to 5 days after two years of 4x10, and I'm quite sad about it.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Virigoth
Apr 28, 2009

Corona rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M. get the virus
In the ICU y'all......



I berated a project manager for 10 minutes on a call today and just snapped when he said "maybe you just overcommitted hmmm" when we got voluntold to work on this with no extra staffing. I'm so embarrassed and pissed off at myself. This project is becoming such a clusterfuck and so many people are getting added in because everyone wants to be a part of it that it's falling apart because of to many hands in the jar. Good news is we're just about done setting up the Production Infrastructure so we can pull back some...but I think we have to teach all these new devs how our pipelines and culture work....

Super-NintendoUser
Jan 16, 2004

COWABUNGERDER COMPADRES
Soiled Meat

xzzy posted:

Also if you know the customer has nowhere else to go.

And if they do try to cancel, just dump them on retentions who will cut the rate for a year and they'll still keep a customer.

I used to help setup IVRs on PBX's and I had at least two office managers start crying when I'm trying to help them whiteboard the call menu.

Zil
Jun 4, 2011

Satanically Summoned Citrus


IVRs are tools of satan, so checks out.

Che Delilas
Nov 23, 2009
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Virigoth posted:

I berated a project manager for 10 minutes on a call today and just snapped when he said "maybe you just overcommitted hmmm" when we got voluntold to work on this with no extra staffing. I'm so embarrassed and pissed off at myself. This project is becoming such a clusterfuck and so many people are getting added in because everyone wants to be a part of it that it's falling apart because of to many hands in the jar. Good news is we're just about done setting up the Production Infrastructure so we can pull back some...but I think we have to teach all these new devs how our pipelines and culture work....

Sometimes the boss needs to be told when he's out of loving line. Assholes act that way because they usually don't experience consequences. 50/50 you've made an enemy or you've snapped what has always been his paper maché spine. Good for you, and good luck.

Che Delilas
Nov 23, 2009
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Bob Morales posted:

I am bad at communication

:words:

Argh this makes me mad, half your boss's purpose is to take the factual information you give him and present it to the executives in a way they can digest, understand, and accept. Your boss is a drat coward.

Sefal
Nov 8, 2011
Fun Shoe
4X9 was great. The 3 day weekend was bliss. I'd even go 4x10 if i could at this job.

Caught up on my e-mail last week. it's been quiet.
Glad I managed to convince my boss to get me a pluralsight account.

nexus6
Sep 2, 2011

If only you could see what I've seen with your eyes

Sickening posted:

And like a previous poster said, the people making the decisions rarely are sitting in the open office. Funny how that works.

Job #1: Open office except director who had his own office
Job #2: Open office except CEO who had his own office
Job #3: Open office except senior staff who had their own offices
Job #4: Open office, nobody had their own office
Job #5: Open office except managing director who had a desk separate from everyone else
Current job: Open office except senior staff who have their own offices

Whaddaya know

dogstile
May 1, 2012

fucking clocks
how do they work?

xzzy posted:

In a given week I'd say I do 15 minutes of actual work.

All of my actual work these days is just sending out an occasional email or transporting a backup.

Meaning that i'm gonna get in like 1000 hours of python in the next year.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Totally unrelated to stuff going on with a now ex-driver of ours, is there an easy way to save a complete SMS conversation stream from an iphone into something readable like a text file etc.?

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Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


Humphreys posted:

Totally unrelated to stuff going on with a now ex-driver of ours, is there an easy way to save a complete SMS conversation stream from an iphone into something readable like a text file etc.?

Not sure about direct from the phone but if you have Messages linked on a laptop or whatever you can do a simple select-all copy/paste.

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