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The Fool posted:IANAL, but I don't believe they can cut your pay rate without you agreeing to it. You "have to agree to it", but it's not like you can just tell them "nah dawg, I'm actually gonna keep working at the old rate, lol". I mean, you can and should try, but the company also has to agree that they still want you around. If you refuse to accept they pay cut, they'll probably just fire you. Which if you've already made up your mind to leave, and are just trying to get them to be the one to pull the trigger so you can collect unemployment, is maybe an OK outcome. But unless you have a strong union representing you (  ), you don't have much legal recourse, as far as I understand things. A retroactive paycut is totally illegal, though.IANAL either, so this is internet bullshitting at its finest Inspector_666 posted:I have thought about making a Powershell script that just kept running through two processes called "Initalizing" and "Compiling" with progress bars and maybe some random output or something and just leaving that running on one monitor. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boss_key
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I guess the question is if firing someone for refusing a pay cut counts as termination with cause or without cause. I’ll be recording any meetings because one party consent state 
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22 Eargesplitten posted:JFC now with the stupid restrictions and the reduction in what I’m doing they might also be cutting my pay. Is constructive dismissal an exception for never quit? Man your story gets worse and worse 
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22 Eargesplitten posted:I guess the question is if firing someone for refusing a pay cut counts as termination with cause or without cause. Start each meeting with making GBS threads on their desks to establish dominance.
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LochNessMonster posted:Start each meeting with making GBS threads on their desks to establish dominance. I tell everyone I know to do this. They don’t and surprise they are all stuck in their lame jobs.
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Jul 23, 2018 21:09
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22 Eargesplitten posted:I guess the question is if firing someone for refusing a pay cut counts as termination with cause or without cause. That's without cause in all 50 states. In at least California you'd be eligible for unemployment if you noted out. Just get the whole scam in writing first.
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George H.W. oval office posted:I tell everyone I know to do this. They don’t and surprise they are all stuck in their lame jobs. The trick is to poo poo on the conference table during your interview. You've asserted your dominance so you'll be hired, and the experience is fresh in their minds, so you shouldn't have to go desk-making GBS threads for at least a year or two. You may have to adjust your strategy for phone or video interviews.
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nullfunction posted:The trick is to poo poo on the conference table during your interview. You've asserted your dominance so you'll be hired, and the experience is fresh in their minds, so you shouldn't have to go desk-making GBS threads for at least a year or two. I definitely did a phone interview on the toilet a month or two ago.
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Matt Zerella posted:I definitely did a phone interview on the toilet a month or two ago. This is one of the most important benefits of working from home. Never again will a conference call create a scheduling conflict with the coffee that was scheduled right before it.
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mllaneza posted:That's without cause in all 50 states. In at least California you'd be eligible for unemployment if you noted out. Do you have a source for that? Not wanting to be an rear end in a top hat, just nervous. Most employment contract stuff I can find is for commonwealth countries.
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22 Eargesplitten posted:Do you have a source for that? Not wanting to be an rear end in a top hat, just nervous. Most employment contract stuff I can find is for commonwealth countries. If you're in the states, call your local department of labor. I know here in NY if you're given more responsibilities without a pay bump, you can quit and go on unemployment. Ive been on unemployment since January when I got laid off and my local office has been a pleasure to deal with, and I'm not being sarcastic. I got an offer today. It's at a MSP but it doesn't seem to Be a factory of sadness, I'm not on helpdesk duty, it's a 10k paybump from my last job, and it looks like I'm going to get a lot of new experience. So I'm kind of excited to get back out there and relieve some of the financial pressure my wife has generously been shouldering for the past 6 months. Gonna start saving to take her on a nice vacation in the spring.
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Matt Zerella posted:I got an offer today. It's at a MSP but it doesn't seem to Be a factory of sadness, I'm not on helpdesk duty, it's a 10k paybump from my last job, and it looks like I'm going to get a lot of new experience. So I'm kind of excited to get back out there and relieve some of the financial pressure my wife has generously been shouldering for the past 6 months. Gonna start saving to take her on a nice vacation in the spring. Hey man, that's great news. I know you've been struggling to find a new job and I'm really glad that it sounds like it is working out for you. Congrats!
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Internet Explorer posted:Hey man, that's great news. I know you've been struggling to find a new job and I'm really glad that it sounds like it is working out for you. Congrats! Thank you! Just waiting on the official offer letter, got an informal email today.
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Matt Zerella posted:If you're in the states, call your local department of labor. I know here in NY if you're given more responsibilities without a pay bump, you can quit and go on unemployment. Ive been on unemployment since January when I got laid off and my local office has been a pleasure to deal with, and I'm not being sarcastic. The people I dealt with out on Long Island were also real easy and nice. My biggest issue was that I had to go in for an in-person thing and it was far away, but that's just LI.
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Inspector_666 posted:The people I dealt with out on Long Island were also real easy and nice. My biggest issue was that I had to go in for an in-person thing and it was far away, but that's just LI. Yeah, all I had to do was hop on the 7 and go out to Flushing for a few in person things where the instructor literally used the term "fake news" but otherwise everyone was super nice and helpful with interview coaching and resume services. Their job search portal is ok but not great for IT work. Then I went and got good as hell dumplings on my way home. I'm from LI and had to do the Babylon to Riverhead jury duty thing once and it was hell.
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Anyone working with graylog to capture network flow traffic itt? It looks like it only supports netflow, not ipfix or sflow. Is that right? We use Extreme switches running EXOS, so it looks like I can't send network flow traffic to graylog as a result. :/
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22 Eargesplitten posted:Do you have a source for that? Not wanting to be an rear end in a top hat, just nervous. Most employment contract stuff I can find is for commonwealth countries. Lookup the unemployment laws for your state. In CA to qualify you have to meet the work earnings threshold, be ready and willing to work, looking for work, and lose your job through no fault of your own. In practice any reason you are fired besides gross negligence is enough to qualify, even poor performance. Quitting because of a significant pay cut is constructive dismissal in CA. In many states if the employer contests the unemployment application it will be denied without reviewing any details for either side, you need to appeal before the case will be looked at by a real person.
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It's worth noting that CA is way better about employee protections than pretty much anywhere else in the US. Don't assume that any given regulation exists in (any) other states. Research your own specific situation.
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I just found out today that the job I'm interviewing for tomorrow requires a week of training in Tel-Aviv, Israel. He Mr. Recruiter, you never thought about bringing that up? He also keeps calling it a Network Administrator position, but it's actually support for clients. Looks like mostly Firewall stuff. I'm not 100% sold, but if the money is right their dress code is jeans and t-shirt and they work half day Fridays so I might just say gently caress it and go for a ride. Why do (most) recruiters suck so loving much?
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Thanks, I’ll see if the Colorado Labor website has anything. I’m feeling cautiously optimistic, I’ve got three entry level dev positions to apply to. The only thing is I have an AS rather than a BS, which is generally where it falls apart. Here’s hoping.
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Also re cell phones and perks for executives, there’s O(10) of them and O(100) to O(10000) of you.
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siggy2021 posted:I just found out today that the job I'm interviewing for tomorrow requires a week of training in Tel-Aviv, Israel. He Mr. Recruiter, you never thought about bringing that up? Alternatively traveling is dope and that would be fun as hell during the down time
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George H.W. oval office posted:Alternatively traveling is dope and that would be fun as hell during the down time I would probably be thrown in jail if I went to Israel tbh.
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I am cleaning out some old bins and I just found a Novell Netware 5 CD. Stop me before I put together a VM and try to get a NetWare IPX/SPX server running.
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No, you should do it and write it up. It sounds like a fun thing to read about someone else doing.
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The Fool posted:No, you should do it and write it up. It sounds like a fun thing to read about someone else doing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM5uNxtT0Mk
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When I was young and unattached, I was too much of a wuss to think about jobs that involved extensive travel or living overseas. Now that I'm older, the chance to see the world on someone else's dime sounds cool... but I don't want to do that to my wife and kids, so welp. Take those travel opportunities while you can, people (I know nothing about siggy2021's personal situation, obviously, so maybe it's totally untenable for any number of reasons).Agrikk posted:I am cleaning out some old bins and I just found a Novell Netware 5 CD. 
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Docjowles posted:When I was young and unattached, I was too much of a wuss to think about jobs that involved extensive travel or living overseas. Now that I'm older, the chance to see the world on someone else's dime sounds cool... but I don't want to do that to my wife and kids, so welp. Take those travel opportunities while you can, people (I know nothing about siggy2021's personal situation, obviously, so maybe it's totally untenable for any number of reasons). One of the reasons I took my old job was opportunity to travel (it was in the fashion industry). Got to go to Dubai, Milan, Paris, London, and Los Angeles and it was a ton of fun because our company was pretty liberal with travel accommodations and expensing. Got to stay in some real nice hotels, especially in LA. I didn't get to see a lot but goddamn my trips to Paris were full of incredible food.
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Docjowles posted:When I was young and unattached, I was too much of a wuss to think about jobs that involved extensive travel or living overseas. Now that I'm older, the chance to see the world on someone else's dime sounds cool... but I don't want to do that to my wife and kids, so welp. Take those travel opportunities while you can, people (I know nothing about siggy2021's personal situation, obviously, so maybe it's totally untenable for any number of reasons). No it's like totally cool, it just would have been nice to know before the day before the interview so I could prep and look into that kind of thing. I am having fun right now trying to explain to my wife that no, we cannot afford a $2000 plane ticket for you to come with me.
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Finally got my new role announced, I get to move out of service management and development teams and into strategy and technology roadmaps. Only problem is that we need to replace me first before I can move onto my new role. Check out my job posting https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3075135&pagenumber=99#post486409048
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Yeah, I wouldn't mind traveling around the word especially if it's on the company's dime.
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siggy2021 posted:I just found out today that the job I'm interviewing for tomorrow requires a week of training in Tel-Aviv, Israel. He Mr. Recruiter, you never thought about bringing that up? CheckPoint?
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This brought me back to installing a Voodoo3 card into my comp when I was 10 just so I could play Quake 2 in GL mode.
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Vargatron posted:This brought me back to installing a Voodoo3 card into my comp when I was 10 just so I could play Quake 2 in GL mode. I forgot all about those goddamn master/slave jumpers.
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I was reminiscing the other day about the first ~* gaming rig *~ I built from scratch in high school. I'm a bit hazy on the specs, but it definitely had a Voodoo2 card, 128MB of RAM, and a Pentium 2 with a clock measured in Mhz. And a sweet, sweet 56k modem. It owned hard 
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Docjowles posted:When I was young and unattached, I was too much of a wuss to think about jobs that involved extensive travel or living overseas. Now that I'm older, the chance to see the world on someone else's dime sounds cool... but I don't want to do that to my wife and kids, so welp. Take those travel opportunities while you can, people (I know nothing about siggy2021's personal situation, obviously, so maybe it's totally untenable for any number of reasons). A thousand times this.  The Fool posted:No, you should do it and write it up. It sounds like a fun thing to read about someone else doing. Also this. Also also, NetWare 4.Something had the best management console I ever used.
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