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CharlieFoxtrot
Mar 27, 2007

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Mak0rz posted:

Do people even care about plot in fighting games?

Uh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1eN1CPit2M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Bi9mYfZ5WQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgMepE75MDI

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The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


I commute by bike!

exquisite tea posted:

Many fighting games struggle to transition into the next generation because people have literally 20 years of attachments to the characters and it’s not like these things build a following in arcades anymore.

tekken is still pretty massive

Mak0rz posted:

Do people even care about plot in fighting games?

the plot of guilty gear is that a man who likes queen went around with a big sword hitting people until eventually his rival became the king of france and married a super weapon and had a half-super weapon child and now big sword guy who likes queen is his grandpa and teaches him about life

the plot of tekken is that a guy and his dad kept throwing each other into things and then it was revealed his dad had deep personal reasons for tossing his son off a cliff

what i'm saying is fighting game stories actually own

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!
BlazBlue has actual visual novel installments with no fighting at all.

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


I commute by bike!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xDqhejxVUg

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


Mak0rz posted:

Do people even care about plot in fighting games?

I used to talk with my friend for hours about whose ending in Soul Calibur 1 should be canon and what each of the characters would do if they won, so probably more than you think. Most fighters are just kind of whatever with their stories but something about SC has always captured the imagination.

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

😎🐗🚬

wow apparently people do care about fighting games' plots

Saint Freak
Apr 16, 2007

Regretting is an insult to oneself
Buglord
Fighting game plots are responsible for one of the only good comic book series ever made.

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


I commute by bike!

CharlieFoxtrot
Mar 27, 2007

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The revelation that Akuma in Tekken 7 was the "good guy" trying to get Heihachi to be a better husband was amazing

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


Saint Freak posted:

Fighting game plots are responsible for one of the only good comic book series ever made.

Fighting game plots are responsible for The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck?

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

I don't think many people would argue that FGs are especially fitting for storytelling, but people definitely "care" in terms of wanting to know what's going on with their characters and stuff.

CharlieFoxtrot
Mar 27, 2007

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Remember when the cowardly Ridley assassinated Mario and Mega Man in cold blood
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJFoEudaOnw

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!
The plot of DoA is that a bunch of ninjas and superweapons and wrestlers are in a tournament and then later do naked volleyball

Saint Freak
Apr 16, 2007

Regretting is an insult to oneself
Buglord

Andrast posted:

Fighting game plots are responsible for The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck?

Chilling Adventures of Sabrina actually

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

Mak0rz posted:

wow apparently people do care about fighting games' plots

The plot is actually what sells the game to normies so that the 800 people in the world who actually care get new games from their favorite developers. Well, at least in the West. Niche games can still thrive in Asian markets purely from arcade revenue.

Saint Freak
Apr 16, 2007

Regretting is an insult to oneself
Buglord
Persona Arena has a four hour story about a robot from New Jersey, Japan learning to love. There is no fighting or gameplay of any kind. It is the most important story of our time.

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

Man it's weird that people care about thing.

Also Labrys was from Brooklyn, Japan, and that was the most inspired directorial decision in a century.

Electric Phantasm
Apr 7, 2011

YOSPOS

CharlieFoxtrot posted:

The revelation that Akuma in Tekken 7 was the "good guy" trying to get Heihachi to be a better husband was amazing

Please explain

Also tell me Goose Howard fits in this sonewhere

Hwurmp
May 20, 2005

is he the one that says "GO HOME AND BE A FAMILY MAN "

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

😎🐗🚬

chumbler posted:

Man it's weird that people care about thing.

That tone in my post was meant to be tongue in cheek. Like what you want in your videogames man it's all cool.

I always found plot in fighting games to be strange because the idea of a "canon" storyline is a bit goofy in a genre where you can play anyone and defeat everyone else.

Note that I'm not talking about character backstories or even plot within a single game for that matter. I'm referring more to overarching stories that span multiple entries in a series (e.g. Soul Edge/Calibur). I guess the plot becoming a confusing mess like it is in that series is almost inevitable?

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

Massive No Man's Sky update is out today. Still needs another 20 massive content updates before it's the game promised.

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


At the end of every Soul Calibur they just pick a canon ending and go on from there, or a combination of them. It’s honestly one of the least convoluted storylines in the FG universe. There’s a cursed sword, and everybody is after it for their own reasons.

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

I think in Blazblue literally every ending is canon, especially the gag ones.

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe
the cutscenes in the smash brothers story mode in brawl is the best thing about smash brothers.

and i love smash brothers

CharlieFoxtrot
Mar 27, 2007

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Electric Phantasm posted:

Please explain

Also tell me Goose Howard fits in this sonewhere

Akuma is a "spirit of vengeance" summoned by Kazumi to take revenge on Heihachi and kill him before he destroys the world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QieQmlCh1rs

Geese Howard is just a cocky rear end in a top hat who thinks he can run a better fighting tournament

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MK2TKFFtQA

Also I hate Noctis for ruining the pattern of "Tekken 7 guest character calls out Heihachi at the Mishima dojo with a wrestling promo"

FirstAidKite
Nov 8, 2009

Wildtortilla posted:

Good morning thread. Central PA is getting flooded out. My office is closed so I'm at home tidying up clutter and listening to KCRW's eclectic24 station. I hope ya'll are having a great morning.

Ah jeeze, keep safe man, hopefully it won't be flooded for long and hopefully it won't take too long to dry out

axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

Congratulations The One Concern!!!

You're addicted to Ivory!!

and...oh my...could you please...
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Grimey Drawer
The Labrys story path in P4A is so loving good.

I do like fighting game story modes and as someone that likes playing around with the genre but doesn't really like competing online that's how I experience a ton of those games

Netherrealms are the undisputed kings of fg story mode. I like arcsys story sometimes. I thought the last BB story was surprisingly ok and pulled the story out of the nose dive the previous few have had put it on. I also thought Under Night had alright story told at an excruciatingly slow pace.

I don't think Capcom have ever had a good story mode in any FG.

Help Im Alive
Nov 8, 2009

glam rock hamhock posted:

I don't think Capcom have ever had a good story mode in any FG.

What about this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoUztOkL8bk

LawfulWaffle
Mar 11, 2014

Well, that aligns with the vibes I was getting. Which was, like, "normal" kinda vibes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6bbkG_Qzdk

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


I commute by bike!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OauhagSMKlU

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
I really got into the story in P4Arena, such that I just put the fighting game part on effectively autopilot by I think disabling blocking and putting the difficulty all the way down. Then Ultimax came out and it was pretty boring and I was bummed out.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~
Fighting game plots are cool because they are the most pure distilled form of anime in gaming but unlike JRPGs you don't spend too much time on it so it never gets overbearing.

Samuringa
Mar 27, 2017

Best advice I was ever given?

"Ticker, you'll be a lot happier once you stop caring about the opinions of a culture that is beneath you."

I learned my worth, learned the places and people that matter.

Opened my eyes.
There was that Guilty Gear(Revelator 1 or 2) where the "Story Mode" was exactly that, a mode with only the story, as a Visual Novel.

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




Samuringa posted:

There was that Guilty Gear(Revelator 1 or 2) where the "Story Mode" was exactly that, a mode with only the story, as a Visual Novel.

Both and xrd too

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?


Best part is in the game it just repeats infinitely until you quit out.

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


Rarity posted:

Fighting game plots are cool because they are the most pure distilled form of anime in gaming but unlike JRPGs you don't spend too much time on it so it never gets overbearing.

They have to keep inventing contrivances for dudes to continually beat on each other so every story ladder is like a Top Ten Anime Betrayal.

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost

Mak0rz posted:

wow apparently people do care about fighting games' plots

stardust crusaders was a good tie in for the jojo dreamcast fighting game

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost

Rarity posted:

Fighting game plots are cool because they are the most pure distilled form of anime in gaming but unlike JRPGs you don't spend too much time on it so it never gets overbearing.

would you say it's like going back to watch old wrestling ppvs and ignoring all the TV shows to get the larger sense of context

Saint Freak
Apr 16, 2007

Regretting is an insult to oneself
Buglord
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofIdh9t0kyQ

Rad. I don't even know what like 80% of those instruments are.

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CharlieFoxtrot
Mar 27, 2007

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glam rock hamhock posted:

I don't think Capcom have ever had a good story mode in any FG.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBrgPNAI4tE

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