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Never realized how lovely open concept floor plans are for offices. Sitting near some guy who just loving bellows to other people when he talks and will sometimes talk to people 30 or 40 feet away. Super aggravating
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Open office and my colleague who sits near me, never shuts the gently caress up. Talking out loud. When he reads emails. out loud. when he does something he says what he is doing out loud. I wouldn't mind if it was info i needed to know but 99% of it is nonsense for what he should be doing.
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Jul 24, 2018 14:40
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You know what my biggest open plan office grip? Coworkers who whistled. I swear I raged out so hard when one of my coworkers near me would not quit whistling on the job.
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Jul 24, 2018 14:43
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Sefal posted:Open office and my colleague who sits near me, never shuts the gently caress up. Talking out loud. When he reads emails. out loud. when he does something he says what he is doing out loud. I wouldn't mind if it was info i needed to know but 99% of it is nonsense for what he should be doing. As someone who talks to themselves semiconsciously I fear an open office plan for just this reason.  (The bullpen-NOC-thing we’re in has two pods of 5 desk cubes each with two walls around each desk but I sit in a back corner so it isn’t too bad).
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Jul 24, 2018 14:44
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Docjowles posted:I was reminiscing the other day about the first ~* gaming rig *~ I built from scratch in high school. I'm a bit hazy on the specs, but it definitely had a Voodoo2 card, 128MB of RAM, and a Pentium 2 with a clock measured in Mhz. And a sweet, sweet 56k modem. You didn't OC a Celeron 300A?
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Jul 24, 2018 14:44
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Hardwood or concrete floors. *clop* *clop* *clop* *clop* *clop* *clop* *clop* *clop* *clop* *clop* *clop* *clop* *clop* It's like working around a bunch of horses Vargatron posted:You know what my biggest open plan office grip? Coworkers who whistled. I swear I raged out so hard when one of my coworkers near me would not quit whistling on the job. I hate whistlers. You hear them coming down the hall...it's like loving horror movie
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Jul 24, 2018 14:45
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Sefal posted:Open office and my colleague who sits near me, never shuts the gently caress up. Talking out loud. When he reads emails. out loud. when he does something he says what he is doing out loud. I wouldn't mind if it was info i needed to know but 99% of it is nonsense for what he should be doing. Headphones, preferably closed back and around-the-ear, are extremely necessary in an open office.
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Jul 24, 2018 14:46
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Thanks Ants posted:CheckPoint? CheckPoint is on the list, and it's the first on the list. They have pretty much everything listed though and it says "one of the following." I'm assuming they're assuming if you have some experience with one firewall vendor they can at least train you on the rest pretty quickly.
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Jul 24, 2018 14:47
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I worked in the county jail where my office was next to one of the tanks in the jail proper instead of on the administration side. Daily fights and yelling was the norm. I learned to tune it out but listening in was pretty fun during the downtimes.
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Jul 24, 2018 14:48
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SamDabbers posted:Headphones, preferably closed back and around-the-ear, are extremely necessary in an open office. 
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Jul 24, 2018 14:51
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Bob Morales posted:Hardwood or concrete floors. The building lobby here has natural wood floors that creak a little when you walk on them, and it's actually extremely satisfying. The offices are all carpeted to reduce sound though, which makes a huge difference. My trigger is people slamming office doors shut. Not out of anger, just letting the door close hard without trying to slow it down, letting out a desk-shaking boom as it smashes into the frame. It's not like it's difficult to nicely close a door.
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Jul 24, 2018 14:54
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Bob Morales posted:Hardwood or concrete floors. *CLOP* *CLOP* *CLOP* *CLOP* *CLOP* *CLOP* *BANG* *CLOP* *CLOP* *CLOP* *CLOP* *CLOP* Amish drive-by. Schadenboner fucked around with this message at 15:31 on Jul 24, 2018 |
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Jul 24, 2018 15:05
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SamDabbers posted:Headphones, preferably closed back and around-the-ear, are extremely necessary in an open office. One of the managers that sits behind me chews his lunch with an open mouth and also won't stop talking with his mouth full. I don't know what I'd do if I didn't have headphones to block him out.
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Jul 24, 2018 15:23
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When it rains it pours I guess. Got a lovely offer letter that I'm going to ask for clarification on a bunch of points (discretionary vacation seems like a red flag but maybe it's fine) and this morning I did a phone interview for a architecture firm for in house and the lady was super nice and I hope it moves forward. I will not feel bad if I leave the MSP in a lurch because there's a pretty weird non compete in the offer letter. 2 years and it basically encompasses NJ, NYC, CT, and LI. But it's MSP focused and I think if I left the company it would sure as hell not be for another MSP.
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Jul 24, 2018 15:30
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Most MSP non competes are really just so you don’t take clients with you if you leave or start working for a client without the MSP getting some sort of finders fee. I wouldn’t worry about it even if you decided to work at another MSP
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Jul 24, 2018 15:33
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Matt Zerella posted:When it rains it pours I guess. Got a lovely offer letter that I'm going to ask for clarification on a bunch of points (discretionary vacation seems like a red flag but maybe it's fine) and this morning I did a phone interview for a architecture firm for in house and the lady was super nice and I hope it moves forward. They can't prevent you from working at another MSP, all they can sue you for is stealing customers. Non-competes are scare tactics and little else.
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Jul 24, 2018 15:34
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Yeah my lawyer sister in law basically said the same thing and said it's a hilariously unenforceable non compete especially in NY.
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Jul 24, 2018 15:36
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Vargatron posted:You know what my biggest open plan office grip? Coworkers who whistled. I swear I raged out so hard when one of my coworkers near me would not quit whistling on the job. The guy who sits next to me has a habit of rapidly clicking his pen open and shut for what seems like hours. No jury in the world would convict me. Overall my coworkers are super respectful of the open office situation, though. I've definitely worked in places where people stop to have a conversation directly next to your desk, or sales is bellowing poo poo on speakerphone or something, with just zero self awareness. Not a problem here, for whatever reason. I don't have to live in my headphones, which is nice. But still, gently caress open office layouts forever. Bob Morales posted:You didn't OC a Celeron 300A? Now that you mention it, this actually sounds exactly right! 
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Jul 24, 2018 15:36
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DizzyBum posted:One of the managers that sits behind me chews his lunch with an open mouth and also won't stop talking with his mouth full. I don't know what I'd do if I didn't have headphones to block him out. My nemesis is a balding fat sweaty neckbeard who I have dubbed Chip Guy, he sits a cubicle away. Every day at 11:30am he rips open a back of chips and open mouth chews them as loud as he possibly can including slurps and lip smacks. My headphones don't cancel it out completely. I'm going to kill him one day.
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Jul 24, 2018 15:42
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siggy2021 posted:CheckPoint is on the list, and it's the first on the list. They have pretty much everything listed though and it says "one of the following." I'm assuming they're assuming if you have some experience with one firewall vendor they can at least train you on the rest pretty quickly. Prepare yourself. Check Point is up there on the most powerful and forward-thinking UTP appliances out there, but gently caress is it slapped together like nobody's business. If you follow their best practices/documentation/manuals to-the-letter, you'll be fine. As soon as your requirements veer you off-path, you enter a world of silo'd tech support the likes of which I had never seen. This is especially true with their site-to-site VPN blade. Also, make sure your Sales Engineer provides you the CP Sizer reports, in case their support team tells you your gear is under-powered. I went through three or four closed emergency tickets before I threw my hands up and had the SE give me those reports, just to get the support team to disengage from their "close ticket as quickly as possible" logic. I think upgrading from our old UTP appliances to Check Point was the right move, don't get me wrong. But you're entering a whole new ballpark of complexity with Check Point, so be ready.
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Jul 24, 2018 15:44
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DizzyBum posted:One of the managers that sits behind me chews his lunch with an open mouth and also won't stop talking with his mouth full. I don't know what I'd do if I didn't have headphones to block him out. CLAM DOWN posted:My nemesis is a balding fat sweaty neckbeard who I have dubbed Chip Guy, he sits a cubicle away. Every day at 11:30am he rips open a back of chips and open mouth chews them as loud as he possibly can including slurps and lip smacks. My headphones don't cancel it out completely. I'm going to kill him one day. Mouth-open chewing is terrorism.
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Jul 24, 2018 15:45
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Sepist posted:Never realized how lovely open concept floor plans are for offices. Sitting near some guy who just loving bellows to other people when he talks and will sometimes talk to people 30 or 40 feet away. Super aggravating I'll phone people who sit two desks away, just basic courtesy really but nobody else seems to bother.
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Jul 24, 2018 15:53
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DizzyBum posted:One of the managers that sits behind me chews his lunch with an open mouth and also won't stop talking with his mouth full. I don't know what I'd do if I didn't have headphones to block him out. This but also he moans loudly while eating and gasps for breath in between bites and sticks his fingers all the way in while dipping so he can suck the dip off (while using the conference room computer) and headphones don't help because he will call you over to his desk while eating and eat during meetings
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Jul 24, 2018 15:53
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siggy2021 posted:I just found out today that the job I'm interviewing for tomorrow requires a week of training in Tel-Aviv, Israel. He Mr. Recruiter, you never thought about bringing that up? I’m in Tel-Aviv right now on vacation. It’s hot, humid, and sunny. I highly recommend bringing good sunscreen, they don’t really do that here. SPF 50 or 60. Checked luggage will be no problem for a good sized bottle. You must bring at least 2 swimsuits, pretty much every beach is amazing and not swimming at every chance is a waste of time.
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Jul 24, 2018 18:12
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The worst thing about open seat plans are “quick 1 on 1s” who are never quick and usually end up in 5+ people loudly arguing while I’m sitting next to them trying to work. When my over ear closed headphones don’t cancel it out I usually put them off and tell the guys “oh get a room!”. Most people think I’m joking but it always moves them away.
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Jul 24, 2018 18:25
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A few jobs ago we had an open floor plan and I had a cube that was right on the corner of a T intersection where the fourth side was the door into the NOC. Because of the location and the flow of traffic people would stand in the intersection and have impromptu meetings while loitering at the wall of my cube. A couple assholes would even casually lean against my cube wall and rest their arms and elbows on the top of the wall as they blathered on, knocking and vibrating my wall incessantly. Bigger assholes would reach down onto my desk mid-conversation and “borrow” my mechanical pencil and a pad of paper promising to “bring it back”. No amount of cajoling, pleading, staring or yelling on my part halted the practice. So one day I made a set of makeshift bird repellant spikes out of tape, paper and paper clips with the pointy ends sticking up and out. It lasted a couple of hours and got some laughs from the NOC folks until the Ops Director stabbed himself in the forearm. Despite the BIG RED TEXT caution sign I printed up on our plotter. He bled, I got yelled at, the spikes got taken down. I regret nothing. I learned a ton there, but man what a lovely place to work. Agrikk fucked around with this message at 19:15 on Jul 24, 2018 |
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Jul 24, 2018 19:09
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Agrikk posted:A few jobs ago we had an open floor plan and I had a cube that was right on the corner of a T intersection where the fourth side was the door into the NOC. Because of the location and the flow of traffic people would stand in the intersection and have impromptu meetings while loitering at the wall of my cube. A couple assholes would even casually lean against my cube wall and rest their arms and elbows on the top of the wall as they blathered on, knocking and vibrating my wall incessantly. Bigger assholes would reach down onto my desk mid-conversation and “borrow” my mechanical pencil and a pad of paper promising to “bring it back”. Next time use the shards of a broken coffee cup, much more noticeable.
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Jul 24, 2018 19:14
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Zil posted:Next time use the shards of a broken coffee cup, much more noticeable. Hah hah hah. There won’t ever be a next time. Never again do I work in a toxic environment like that.
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Jul 24, 2018 19:16
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Heyyyyy guyyyysss. So one of our customers is about to make themselves a fairly public target for interested snoopers, and we're busy trying to lock things down. One of the things we'd like to do is implement a real IDS/IPS, as we've mostly had to settle for firewalling (ASAs, mostly, and from everything I've heard I don't want firePOWER). What's the current state of these systems and what would people recommend? Something firewall integrated, i.e. replace ASA with Palo Alto? Separate system sitting behind the ASA, and if so what? This client is normally pretty stingy, but I think they'd spring for something decent given the current situation, where decent is defined as probably under $20k. They're not large, and their main connection is only 100 meg symmetrical, so they don't need a ton of throughput, and there aren't a lot of remote users. It's more important to have easily usable and installable gear that does a good job catching threats and/or alerting on them. Oh yeah and we're trying to get this done by next week because they told us today 
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Jul 24, 2018 19:39
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Super Soaker Party! posted:Heyyyyy guyyyysss. You really gonna dangle that juicy piece in front of us with no redacted storytime? I'm offended. 
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Jul 24, 2018 19:54
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Time to apply the 'no story - no help'-principle? 
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Jul 24, 2018 19:57
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Wibla posted:Time to apply the 'no story - no help'-principle?  
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Jul 24, 2018 20:11
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Super Soaker Party! posted:Heyyyyy guyyyysss. Fortinet's are reasonably priced, they catch stuff, but I'm not sure how good they are at it, but they're one of the biggest companies in the UTM space today. They're not hard to work with either.
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Jul 24, 2018 20:15
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600 honeypots, one real server. Autoshun all the connections to the honeypots Edit: if you only care about perimeter, a pa220 will do 100mb no problem and is like 3k with licenses. It's just a matter of setting it up properly. Also firepower isn't terrible it's just not easy to set up. Palo is definitely superior though. Sepist fucked around with this message at 20:25 on Jul 24, 2018 |
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Jul 24, 2018 20:19
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Super Soaker Party! posted:Heyyyyy guyyyysss. I've been really happy with Palo Alto lately, but we have a fairly wide-spread environment with tons of firewall endpoints. The Panorama dashboard makes the product in my opinion. Either way, they work even if you're just using one, and have some good integrations with vCenter so you can- quote:Oh yeah and we're trying to get this done by next week because they told us today hahaha your best option is to shut the internet off
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Jul 24, 2018 20:25
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So I think my interview went really well and I went from meh about the possible job to gently caress yes I want this. I'm definitely under qualified in a lot of areas, but they don't seem to be too concerned about that and don't seem to mind teaching. The people all seemed great. The company sounds phenomenal (TWELVE options for health insurance plans!?!) and I got to calm my wife down about the Tel Aviv trip because the whole team goes there every year and once a year they do a 2-3 week culture swap with someone in the Israel office, so I could take her there in a year or two for a couple of weeks instead of one where I'm busy constantly.
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Jul 24, 2018 21:58
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siggy2021 posted:So I think my interview went really well and I went from meh about the possible job to gently caress yes I want this. I'm definitely under qualified in a lot of areas, but they don't seem to be too concerned about that and don't seem to mind teaching. The people all seemed great. The company sounds phenomenal (TWELVE options for health insurance plans!?!) and I got to calm my wife down about the Tel Aviv trip because the whole team goes there every year and once a year they do a 2-3 week culture swap with someone in the Israel office, so I could take her there in a year or two for a couple of weeks instead of one where I'm busy constantly. Good job, that sounds fun quote:(TWELVE options for health insurance plans!?!) If it's anything like my employer, a quarter of the plans at best are going to be viable options. For me it was because some were union only, and others had no presence in my state which meant no in-network providers.
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Jul 24, 2018 22:06
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At my current employer my options are do you want to pay a little for poo poo coverage or a lot for slightly less poo poo coverage?
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Jul 24, 2018 22:08
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siggy2021 posted:At my current employer my options are do you want to pay a little for poo poo coverage or a lot for slightly less poo poo coverage? I just get Kaiser. I have to walk all the way across the parking lot to see my Doctor. It's such a hardship. On the other hand, we also get old people going to Kaiser accidentally flooring the accelerator and hitting a handicapped sign and using that to launch their car onto the roof of our HR managers car.
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chin up everything sucks posted:I just get Kaiser. Set up a webcam and make some money on the side by streaming that poo poo.
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