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Ghost Leviathan posted:It's basically live performance comic books. Complete with recycling storylines because the audience should have aged out of it, retcons, regular reboots and legacy shenanigans that wouldn't fly today. Have we had a comic book President yet?
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Have we had a comic book President yet? Teddy Roosevelt. Andrew Jackson if you're looking for a super villain.
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Jul 24, 2018 06:01
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Solice Kirsk posted:Teddy Roosevelt. Andrew Jackson if you're looking for a super villain. Kind of anachronistic, though. Trump did wrestling before he became President, and I'd say a lot of his behavior is very wrestly.
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Jul 24, 2018 06:03
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hard counter posted:huh, a friend of mine who's a bit of a wrestling know-it-all has often said that 80-90s wrestlers were mostly failed jocks who all watched back in the days of ultra-macho carnival wrestling and brought an exaggerated imitation of that when they became talent themselves since that's what attracted them to the industry while current wrestlers are all closet nerds who watched back in the attitude era and talked on message boards about kayfabe, marks, smarks, storylines and all that and now bring that sort of meta-stuff into modern wrestling Probably right. Also, the wrestlers today watched all their heroes die of heart attacks or suicide so they know they need to take care of themselves better.
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Jul 24, 2018 06:04
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I wanna see a Chris Benoit hologram wrestle a guy.
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Jul 24, 2018 06:05
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Ghost Leviathan posted:It's basically live performance comic books. Complete with recycling storylines because the audience should have aged out of it, retcons, regular reboots and legacy shenanigans that wouldn't fly today. I never really "got" wrestling until I started thinking about it like that. It suddenly clicked when they had Stephen Amell on: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNCueHKL7UM Watching that, I know its scripted. I know its dumb as hell. But oh man is it fun.
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Jul 24, 2018 09:12
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Volcott posted:I wanna see a Chris Benoit hologram wrestle a guy. I wanna see a Chris Benoit hologram wrestle a whole family
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Jul 24, 2018 12:21
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Ghost Leviathan posted:It's basically live performance comic books. Complete with recycling storylines because the audience should have aged out of it, retcons, regular reboots and legacy shenanigans that wouldn't fly today. Comic books are wrestling. Stand up is wrestling. Porno is wrestling. Most of life is wrestling.
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Jul 24, 2018 12:47
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GoutPatrol posted:Comic books are wrestling. Stand up is wrestling. Porno is wrestling. Most of life is wrestling. Government is wrestling.
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Jul 24, 2018 14:47
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Kenny Omega could put on a convincing match with a hologram
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Jul 24, 2018 15:00
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Fumaofthelake posted:Kenny Omega could put on a convincing match with a hologram I mean, he wrestled a 9 year old, and during his time in DDT i'm pretty sure he wrestled the invisible wrestler AND the blow-up sex doll. To cut off any requests for further info, here's Kenny vs Haruko: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAaDyWHRCeU Someone (not Kenny) vs the upgraded version of the sex doll: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3DXAlKw-Bs And Danshoku Dino (Google him if you're not offended by really, really weird Japanese homosexual stereotypes) vs. the invisible wreslter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPrwo2abieo Neito has a new favorite as of 15:10 on Jul 24, 2018 |
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Jul 24, 2018 15:01
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Platonicsolid posted:Government is wrestling. Your President IS a a WWE Hall of Famer...
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Jul 24, 2018 16:11
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Strom Cuzewon posted:I never really "got" wrestling until I started thinking about it like that. It suddenly clicked when they had Stephen Amell on: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNCueHKL7UM That describes a lot of entertainment really. It doesn't need to be intelligent or deep it just needs to be fun to watch. Most entertainment is stupid but that's fine, really.
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I never understood how anyone over the age of 10 could enjoy wrestling on any level and then started getting stoned and watching it in college as a goof since it was so loving ridiculous. Like watching 60's Batman, Dragnet or MST. Now I'm back to wondering how anyone can watch it at all.
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To each their own, but look up some of the stuff out of PWG, NJPW, and DDT. It's a lot of fun, and way different than the WWE stuff.
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Jul 24, 2018 22:15
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Mu Zeta posted:The actor playing mini Jillian Michaels said Eric Andre didn't shower for a month before filming season 4. Dear God. I've had some bad depression, but I can't imagine going a whole month without feeling so disgusting I just had to shower. And that's while in a bad depression. That's some dedication. Also, even the kayfabe "fake" wrestling takes some amount of skill. A friend of mine who is a wrestler almost killed a guy when he didn't tuck his head during a rehearsed move.
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They've tried again and again doing another adaptation of The Stand. Beyond updating the setting there's a lot of baggage they'd have to... alter: * Pretty much everyone is white, with the one exception of the literal magical-negro whose job is to move the heroic white-characters into the one town. * There's also Tom Cullen who falls under the umbrella of the "magical retard" trope that King tends to use, like Dreamcatcher. I suppose he's well-intentioned but I found him terribly aggravating to read about. Being mentally-disabled makes you immune to mind-control somehow. * That weird chapter where the pyro-maniac gets sodomised with a gun-barrel. * That news-broadcast where an army of near-nude black-men gruesomely execute a platoon. * The white bad-guy easily starts over because a tribe of primitives start worshipping him as a god. There's also the general shittyness of the ending, which needed another draft because it wasn't apparent how the heroes had any effect on the bad guys destruction, which pretty much happened without the heroes' intervention.
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BiggerBoat posted:I never understood how anyone over the age of 10 could enjoy wrestling on any level and then started getting stoned and watching it in college as a goof since it was so loving ridiculous. Like watching 60's Batman, Dragnet or MST. Try this, it’s highlights of one of the best matches in history and just nonstop stunts, action, and psychology https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp2ZCAJ0ZKg
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Araenna posted:Dear God. I've had some bad depression, but I can't imagine going a whole month without feeling so disgusting I just had to shower. And that's while in a bad depression. That's some dedication. For one season of The Eric Andre Show he literally destroyed his hair by getting it chemically straightened just so he could make it look like Katt Williams from an old comedy special.
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Inspector Gesicht posted:They've tried again and again doing another adaptation of The Stand. Beyond updating the setting there's a lot of baggage they'd have to... alter: Christ. I hear a lot about that scene from IT, and I probably won't ever read it but I'd like to read about it; because King wrote it, that's fine, probably coked the gently caress out of his mind, but he sent to someone and that someone approved it, and someone else - probably multiple people - also thought that was ok to be printed and sold and at no point no one raised their hand and said "Isn't this incredibly non-sensically hosed up?" I remember reading the Dark Tower and on the first book Roland gets raped by a succubus-like spirit, and then two or three books later Susanna is raped by an incubus-like spirit but turns out it was the same being who just changed and it impregnated Susanna with Roland's sperm from the first book and what the gently caress Although it has been years and I might be missing something but long story short Stephen King has some very creative ideas that should not have been written.
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Samuringa posted:Christ. I hear a lot about that scene from IT, and I probably won't ever read it but I'd like to read about it; because King wrote it, that's fine, probably coked the gently caress out of his mind, but he sent to someone and that someone approved it, and someone else - probably multiple people - also thought that was ok to be printed and sold and at no point no one raised their hand and said "Isn't this incredibly non-sensically hosed up?" Coked out of his mind King is just the best.
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Samuringa posted:Christ. I hear a lot about that scene from IT, and I probably won't ever read it but I'd like to read about it; because King wrote it, that's fine, probably coked the gently caress out of his mind, but he sent to someone and that someone approved it, and someone else - probably multiple people - also thought that was ok to be printed and sold and at no point no one raised their hand and said "Isn't this incredibly non-sensically hosed up?" Off the top of my head, that happened with at least one of those scenes (the gun barrel butt-fuckin’), which was only present in the extended and uncut version.
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Jul 24, 2018 23:59
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I know you ate that rat, don't try to pretend you didn't.
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Inspector Gesicht posted:There's also the general shittyness of the ending, which needed another draft because it wasn't apparent how the heroes had any effect on the bad guys destruction, which pretty much happened without the heroes' intervention. It was pretty obvious how the heroes brought about Flagg's downfall if you'd watched or read the rest of it. In fact, it's literally the title of the story. They are instructed by Mother Abigail, speaking for God, to travel without food to Las Vegas and to stand against Flagg without weapons. When they do, God rewards them for this act of absolute faith by destroying Flagg. You might call that a dick move on God's part because he could have done it anyway, but when you're talking about Us vs Them you want to be sure that the people you're helping are Us and not Them.
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Call it a hot take but I just don't really think Steven King is all that great.
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I've said for years he has some really good ideas but in anything long he meanders like gently caress and reuses the same tropes repeatedly. Some people seem to dig this, but I can't handle it. I like his short stories a lot, I've never finished an actual novel of his. E; this is of course all separate, lesser criticism than id have for stuff like his black dialogue. Not Operator has a new favorite as of 00:33 on Jul 25, 2018 |
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Apparently King just sits down in front of his typewriter and just writes and writes and writes and it’s a thing he’s done every day for years so that’s kinda cool
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Ugly In The Morning posted:Off the top of my head, that happened with at least one of those scenes (the gun barrel butt-fuckin’), which was only present in the extended and uncut version. Yeah, the uncut version added like 300 more pages. There's no way to film all of the original 700+ pages, they won't add stuff in a version most people didn't read. I vaguely recall the TV miniseries version had a pretty kick rear end opening to 'Don't Fear the Reaper'.
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Krispy Wafer posted:Yeah, the uncut version added like 300 more pages. There's no way to film all of the original 700+ pages, they won't add stuff in a version most people didn't read. The only version that’s been available since like 1990 is the uncut one. I’d love to read the original one day to see the 70s pop culture references.
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Calaveron posted:Apparently King just sits down in front of his typewriter and just writes and writes and writes and it’s a thing he’s done every day for years so that’s kinda cool I liked it when he did that, but also was so coked up he doesn't even remember what he wrote in that state. I don't know if The Stand was written during that era but it would explain a lot.
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Don Gato posted:I liked it when he did that, but also was so coked up he doesn't even remember what he wrote in that state. I don't know if The Stand was written during that era but it would explain a lot. Cujo was the coked to oblivion novel. The Stand, written a few years earlier, was mostly booze. It also suffered from him kicking around the the unfinished manuscript for years, writing himself into a corner and having to come up with a deux ex machina to get out of it.
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If I remember right TommyKnockers is another one King has no recollection of writing at all.
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WescottF1 posted:
To be fair Stossel is pretty lovely.
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bobjr posted:If I remember right TommyKnockers is another one King has no recollection of writing at all. How does tommyknockers hold up? I haven't read it since I was a kid and I barely remember it.
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Samuringa posted:Christ. I hear a lot about that scene from IT, and I probably won't ever read it but I'd like to read about it; because King wrote it, that's fine, probably coked the gently caress out of his mind, but he sent to someone and that someone approved it, and someone else - probably multiple people - also thought that was ok to be printed and sold and at no point no one raised their hand and said "Isn't this incredibly non-sensically hosed up?" Funnily enough the succubus-incubus thing is exactly how they worked in medieval lore, iirc. (so THAT'S why your kid looks suspiciously like the local lord...)
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I liked King's Miniseries, Rose Red, and it's prequel movie The Diary of Ellen Rimbauer. I thought they were interesting takes on the haunted house story although with the autistic girl he did fall into "Mentally disabled people are magic" as he usually does. Although to be fair she was one of the more badass variants. Her destruction of the house via dominos is pretty fun. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vZlrlTbudw Also I like Emery, because his power is that of common sense. Every character has a different psychic power, the autistic Annie is a powerful telekinetic who's powers can interact with the others in such a way as to "wake up" the evil house (as there hasn't been any activity there is years so she's key to giving them something to study), the girls are a TouchKnow (who can see an object's past by touching it) and an automatic writer, two of the guys are a precognitive (self explanatory) and a post cognitive (can see the past, basically he sees ghosts and poo poo, this is Emery) and finally someone who dabbles in different things. However whenever Emery sees ghosts, he closes his eyes and just dismisses them by declaring that they aren't really there. Then responds to them after with the great catchphase "Save the warnings for someone who isn't broke, OK?!" He's a bit of an rear end in a top hat and has some false positives, but I like that he can mostly just make his visions go away instead of panicking.
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He had the best power but he was also the least likable character. Which is saying a lot because Joyce was pretty awful herself
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I liked Joyce, she was crazy in a fun way. "I see, that's what you're really afraid of... The blood under the skin... liquid instead of solid, hot instead of just warm!" then smearing her blood on the Deans face is pretty great.
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"Stephen King" is a funny name if you think about it, because "Stephen" comes from the Greek word for "crown".
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I’m rewatching Friday Night Lights. The first season includes a dark-skinned Katrina refugee as a straight up villain with zero sympathetic traits and the Latino linebacker is a violent criminal. I don’t think that would fly as easily today.
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