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Flowers For Algeria posted:Y'all know how this is gonna end, right? "Si le president le faisse, c'est legal."
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More like "c’est peut-être illégal, mais comme c’est le président, on ne peut rien faire"
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Jul 24, 2018 06:07
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Flowers For Algeria posted:More like "c’est peut-être illégal, mais comme c’est le président, on ne peut rien faire" Oh, you know Americans, we don't have the patience for multiple dependent clauses.
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Jul 24, 2018 06:11
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Absurd Alhazred posted:"Si le president le faisse, c'est legal." I don't think Macron is into wickerworks.
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Cat Mattress posted:*fait I was trying for the subjunctive. I really need to go back to practicing my paltry French. 
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Absurd Alhazred posted:I was trying for the subjunctive. I really need to go back to practicing my paltry French. That would be "fasse" but using the subjunctive in that sentence wouldn't be correct anyway. Generally, use of the subjunctive requires a "que" somewhere. ("Qu'il le fasse, il en aura le droit" ("be it he does it, he will be allowed") for example, compare with conditional "Il le ferait, il en aurait le droit" ("were he to do it, he would be allowed") or indicative "S'il le fait, il en a le droit" ("if he does it, he's allowed"). I think. IANALT (I am not a language teacher).
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Cat Mattress posted:That would be "fasse" but using the subjunctive in that sentence wouldn't be correct anyway. Generally, use of the subjunctive requires a "que" somewhere. ("Qu'il le fasse, il en aura le droit" ("be it he does it, he will be allowed") for example, compare with conditional "Il le ferait, il en aurait le droit" ("were he to do it, he would be allowed") or indicative "S'il le fait, il en a le droit" ("if he does it, he's allowed"). That makes sense.
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Cat Mattress posted:That would be "fasse" but using the subjunctive in that sentence wouldn't be correct anyway. Generally, use of the subjunctive requires a "que" somewhere. ("Qu'il le fasse, il en aura le droit" ("be it he does it, he will be allowed") for example, compare with conditional "Il le ferait, il en aurait le droit" ("were he to do it, he would be allowed") or indicative "S'il le fait, il en a le droit" ("if he does it, he's allowed"). Absurd Alhazred posted:That makes sense. I am a language teacher and, while French is my 2nd language, that's a solid explanation. The subjunctive, which barely exists in English and drives second-language learners mad, requires among other possibilities an expression of will. Hypothetical expressions using si do not fall into this category. Why they often require very specific pairings of tenses in the dependant and independent clause, they don't use the subjunctive. If I say Que le président soit couvert d'arraignées, I need to use the subjunctive soit because I'm expressing a desire. The phrase is essentiall Je veux que le président soit couvert... but the first two words, an expression of will, are implied. For another example, Vive la France! Italian is even worse as the subjunctive is even more common and the imperfect and past-perfect subjunctive are regularly used. I know that romance language speakers in this thread will find it humorous, I cannot overemphasise how difficult the subjunctive is for Anglophones.
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The subjunctive imperfect is just the greatest thing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lnl_MiX7nmY
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Pratique : le seul responsable est irresponsable pénalement.
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JustJeff88 posted:I know that romance language speakers in this thread will find it humorous, I cannot overemphasise how difficult the subjunctive is for Anglophones. I grew up bilingual, speaking English and Spanish (born to Colombian parents in the States) and so when I moved to France I decided to use my Spanish to learn the French. My accent is pretty blatantly Spanish instead of English, which baffles people to no end when I'm tell them I'm from the US, but it was specifically because the Romance languages share so many features among them, that I was able to quickly learn French since things like the subjunctive and imperfect actually made sense to me, being a Spanish-speaker of sorts. Had I used English, I'm certain I would've had a tougher time, though my accent and origins would make more sense to others.
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One thing that's kind of interesting about that story is that I grew up speaking English and French (born to a French mother in Anglo Canada), and when I started speaking Spanish in high school, it turned out I speak it with a very strong French accent instead of an English one. But yeah coming from a French background I coasted through Spanish in high school, doing both grades 9 and 10 in grade 9 and graduating a year early.
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I came at French fluent in English and Hebrew. Modern Hebrew doesn't have subjunctive, or indeed, any mood other than indicative and imperative. Its nouns are all gendered, though, and in a way that is mostly independent of how it is in French, so that's not very helpful! 
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100YrsofAttitude posted:I grew up bilingual, speaking English and Spanish (born to Colombian parents in the States) and so when I moved to France I decided to use my Spanish to learn the French. My accent is pretty blatantly Spanish instead of English, which baffles people to no end when I'm tell them I'm from the US, but it was specifically because the Romance languages share so many features among them, that I was able to quickly learn French since things like the subjunctive and imperfect actually made sense to me, being a Spanish-speaker of sorts. I've had many Spanish and Portuguese-speaking students in my time, and while they will often comment on already understanding things like the subjunctive, having two separate "to know" verbs and the fact that everything is masculine or feminine; I've also had the occasional comment about how handy it is that French only has one verb "to be" as Spanish, Italian and Portuguese have two. The one thing that drives them absolutely loopy, though, is French phonetics. I've spent a lot of time studying theory and working on materials for this, because French is kind of in a world of its own phonetically. Mind you, English speakers have just as much of a problem; French is just "unique" that way. HookShot posted:One thing that's kind of interesting about that story is that I grew up speaking English and French (born to a French mother in Anglo Canada), and when I started speaking Spanish in high school, it turned out I speak it with a very strong French accent instead of an English one. When I started learning Italian as a third language my professor, who was from Rome, said in class that I spoke it with a German accent. I replied that it was actually French and felt very self-conscious. People have commented that I have a thick British accent when speaking English, because I grew up in England, but in French I still have a modest Canadian accent. That's because I was born and spent my very earliest years in Montréal and, as required by law, I went to school in French until we went to the UK. Some people really don't understand that accents and dialects are a result of habituation and not genetics or parentage. Absurd Alhazred posted:I came at French fluent in English and Hebrew. Modern Hebrew doesn't have subjunctive, or indeed, any mood other than indicative and imperative. Its nouns are all gendered, though, and in a way that is mostly independent of how it is in French, so that's not very helpful! I rather envy you. I'm Jewish and, apart from learning to sight-read for my bar mitzvah, I speak no Hebrew apart from a few common phrases.
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JustJeff88 posted:I rather envy you. I'm Jewish and, apart from learning to sight-read for my bar mitzvah, I speak no Hebrew apart from a few common phrases. I mean, it's kind of niche. 
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Condiv posted:i just looked it up cause i hadn't heard of it till now, and I saw this article about it: https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/7/19/17590302/trevor-noah-france-french-ambassador-araud-world-cup Both Noah and French Ambassador Guy are misinterpreting laicite though, aren't they? It's not so much about an individual's identity in the postmodern sense but about political association/civil society organization distinct from the state. There's no problem with individuals adhering to Islam or Catholicism as a religion/self-identifying as Muslim or Catholic or Black, there's a problem with Muslims or Catholics operating as a unified political bloc. Right?
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Flowers For Algeria posted:Y'all know how this is gonna end, right? Nailed it. quote:Cette crise politique est la plus grave depuis son élection en mai 2017 pour Emmanuel Macron, qui avait promis pendant sa campagne une «République exemplaire», mais ne s’est pas encore exprimé publiquement sur cette affaire bien que, selon un sondage mardi, 75% des Français souhaitent qu’il sorte de son mutisme sur l’affaire Benalla. "Come and get me, I loving dare you" - Emmanuel Macron, 24 juillet 2018
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Kassad posted:Nailed it.
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"On vous jure, on l'a VRAIMENT suspendu 15 jours et le prefet de la republique, il a cafouillé durant son interview, on vous mentirez jamais." signé Le Fantome de Aussi dans la serie TRUMP OR MACRON, devinez qui a dit: “We have a press that is no longer pursuing the truth,” XXX said. “What I see is media power that wants to become judicial power.”
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Toplowtech posted:"On vous jure, on l'a VRAIMENT suspendu 15 jours et le prefet de la republique, il a cafouillé durant son interview, on vous mentirez jamais." signé Le Fantome de too loving easy. trump can't even pronounce judicial
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Kassad posted:Nailed it. T’inquiète, paupiette, on va venir te chercher.
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Toplowtech posted:Aussi dans la serie TRUMP OR MACRON, devinez qui a dit: The American president would have expressed that idea with something like "fake news media want to be judges, sad".
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Flowers For Algeria posted:T’inquiète, paupiette, on va venir te chercher. Ceci m'a donné la chair de poule.
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EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A VHS INTO THE SLOT. IT'S FOOTAGE OF MAY DAY PROTESTS ON THE PLACE DE LA CONTRESCARPE AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I START DOING THE MOVES ALONGSIDE WITH THE MAIN CHARACTER, ALEXANDRE BENALLA. I DO EVERY MOVE AND I DO EVERY MOVE HARD. MAKIN WHOOSHING SOUNDS WHEN I SLAM DOWN SOME INSOUMIS BASTARDS OR EVEN WHEN I MESS UP TECHNIQUE. NOT MANY CAN SAY THEY ESCAPED THE GALAXYS MOST DANGEROUS PROTEST. I CAN. I SAY IT AND I SAY IT OUTLOUD EVERYDAY TO PEOPLE IN MY COLLEGE CLASS AND ALL THEY DO IS PROVE PEOPLE IN COLLEGE CLASS CAN STILL BE IMMATURE JEKRS. AND IVE LEARNED ALL THE LINES AND IVE LEARNED HOW TO MAKE MYSELF AND MY APARTMENT LESS LONELY BY SHOUTING EM ALL. 2 HOURS INCLUDING WIND DOWN EVERY MORNIng (from Benalla's interview in today's Le Monde) ElNarez fucked around with this message at 11:52 on Jul 26, 2018 |
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Kassad posted:"People have lost their mind"
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ElNarez posted:EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A VHS INTO THE SLOT. IT'S FOOTAGE OF MAY DAY PROTESTS ON THE PLACE DE LA CONTRESCARPE AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I START DOING THE MOVES ALONGSIDE WITH THE MAIN CHARACTER, ALEXANDRE BENALLA. I DO EVERY MOVE AND I DO EVERY MOVE HARD. MAKIN WHOOSHING SOUNDS WHEN I SLAM DOWN SOME INSOUMIS BASTARDS OR EVEN WHEN I MESS UP TECHNIQUE. NOT MANY CAN SAY THEY ESCAPED THE GALAXYS MOST DANGEROUS PROTEST. I CAN. I SAY IT AND I SAY IT OUTLOUD EVERYDAY TO PEOPLE IN MY COLLEGE CLASS AND ALL THEY DO IS PROVE PEOPLE IN COLLEGE CLASS CAN STILL BE IMMATURE JEKRS. AND IVE LEARNED ALL THE LINES AND IVE LEARNED HOW TO MAKE MYSELF AND MY APARTMENT LESS LONELY BY SHOUTING EM ALL. 2 HOURS INCLUDING WIND DOWN EVERY MORNIng Tweet's been deleted. That's the sucky thing with embedding tweets.
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Cat Mattress posted:Tweet's been deleted. That's the sucky thing with embedding tweets.
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https://twitter.com/LePoint/status/1022861717636874240?s=19 Lmao is this guy for real Edit: Wait, the motherfucker was on the TF1 evening news? What the gently caress is this poo poo Kassad fucked around with this message at 19:33 on Jul 27, 2018 |
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Kassad posted:https://twitter.com/le_Parisien/status/1022857758318780416?s=19 mdr
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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suck my woke dick posted:Jupiter just banned smartphones in schools I get the motivation but they're useful tools if used responsibly so ultimately it's a setback for school. As an English teacher, having a world of words and sources at your fingertips banned is especially unhelpful. Il faut que la France se modernise un peu quand même.
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