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Jul 24, 2018 20:35
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 that’s loving beautifulDang It Bhabhi! posted:Meshuggah apologizes for inventing Djent: I like how they completely rattled the metal genre over 20 years ago causing an entire genre to be born out of trying to copy them and no one has come close. It’s impressive.
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Jul 24, 2018 20:47
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Kilometers Davis posted:I like how they completely rattled the metal genre over 20 years ago causing an entire genre to be born out of trying to copy them and no one has come close. It’s impressive. I thought I liked djent but it turned out I only liked Meshuggah.
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Jul 24, 2018 20:50
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Anime Reference posted:I thought I liked djent but it turned out I only liked Meshuggah. They’re one of my all time favorite bands  I like SOME. Periphery has some cool riffs and catchy songs even though I can never totally like them. Animals as Leaders is great but that’s getting away from the “djent” genre. The ripples from the genre are better than the direct Meshuggah influenced bands. I also like that the genre pushed home recording/ease of setting up a simple studio further into being attainable. It took the unattainable concept of recording precise, layered prog metal albums to a thing completely doable in some kids bedroom. I know there’s a lot of dislike surrounding that, but I think it’s neat.
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Jul 24, 2018 20:55
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Spanish Manlove posted:Is that poking fun at the Trump/iran tweet? Seems like it.
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Jul 24, 2018 20:57
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Kilometers Davis posted:I like how they completely rattled the metal genre over 20 years ago causing an entire genre to be born out of trying to copy them and no one has come close. It’s impressive. it's funny because they were basically ignored for 5-6 years after destroy erase improve until everyone got on the internet and they opened for tool a bunch
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Jul 24, 2018 21:01
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Anime Reference posted:I thought I liked djent but it turned out I only liked Meshuggah.
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Jul 24, 2018 21:03
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The Muppets On PCP posted:it's funny because they were basically ignored for 5-6 years after destroy erase improve until everyone got on the internet and they opened for tool a bunch I didn’t realize that. I got into them mid 00s when I started getting into real metal. They were definitely gaining fans fast though.
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Jul 24, 2018 21:21
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Everything I heard people say in the early days about meshuggah was basically "incredibly impressive, technically, but also not really music" And then they accidentally made a genre lmao
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Jul 24, 2018 21:28
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The Muppets On PCP posted:it's funny because they were basically ignored for 5-6 years after destroy erase improve until everyone got on the internet and they opened for tool a bunch I actually saw them open for Tool in that period with some friends of mine, who were all vastly unenthused by the ping-pong riffs. I was just getting into metal at that point and had heard and liked a couple tracks from Nothing, so I was excited. Similarly, the time I saw Tool and Fantomas opened and I was super into it and my friends were just like "what the gently caress is that guy doing" when Mike Patton started Pattoning. (I got into Tool because I heard they were touring with King Crimson, who I was obsessed with at the time - it's me, I'm the stupid music poo poo)
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Jul 24, 2018 21:49
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Shugojin posted:Everything I heard people say in the early days about meshuggah was basically "incredibly impressive, technically, but also not really music" their first album was alright for what it is, but as far as the stuff they're known for they've pretty much been writing variations on future breed machine for a quarter century
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Jul 24, 2018 22:13
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I wish I understood this, the way musicians do. 
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Jul 24, 2018 22:14
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prefect posted:I wish I understood this, the way musicians do. Play white key on a piano and one of the black keys that's touching it, so like a E and a D# together Here's in on a guitar https://jguitar.com/chordname?string5=x&string4=5&string3=8&string2=x&string1=x&string0=x (click on the speaker to the right of the fretboard)
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Jul 24, 2018 22:27
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I saw Tool in the King Crimson and Meshuggah tours. I can objectively say that Meshuggah absolutely butt-hosed Tool the day I saw them. It wasn't even a "Oh, they're different genres" or "Well, Tool has this whole audio-visual trip". None of that bullshit. Meshuggah absolutely KA-RUSHED them.
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Jul 24, 2018 22:33
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I was looking for something in the old thread and just ran into this again you're welcome https://indavideo.hu/video/Stardust_Reverie_-_Universal_Horrors
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Jul 24, 2018 22:35
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Shugojin posted:Everything I heard people say in the early days about meshuggah was basically "incredibly impressive, technically, but also not really music" 
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Jul 24, 2018 22:36
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hexwren posted:I was looking for something in the old thread and just ran into this again this is what every nightwish/therion/whatever song sounds like to me
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Jul 24, 2018 22:44
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I appreciate the blunt sincerity of that song and video
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Jul 24, 2018 22:46
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prefect posted:I wish I understood this, the way musicians do. I said something similar in the guitar thread and someone wrote up a nice post about it. Fake edit: It was Enourmo
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Jul 24, 2018 22:58
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Biggest Meltdowner posted:I said something similar in the guitar thread and someone wrote up a nice post about it. Ow my brain. Gonna take some time to work this out, but thanks for the link. 
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Jul 24, 2018 23:14
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esKFx2flHDg
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Jul 25, 2018 01:33
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I think it was mostly just excusing people who didn't like it. Their whole thing is very easy to not like.
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Jul 25, 2018 01:42
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Shugojin posted:"incredibly impressive, technically, but also not really music" i have literally never had the urge to listen to meshuggah before reading this sentence, but goddamn if my interest isn't piqued not in a sarcastic way, either, this sounds cool as hell
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Jul 25, 2018 05:44
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CaptainViolence posted:i have literally never had the urge to listen to meshuggah before reading this sentence, but goddamn if my interest isn't piqued any group that has acclaim for 25+ years and holds widespread claim to inventing a widely interpreted genre is worth a listen to at least once, in my opinion I cant listen to them everyday but sometimes you get the itch, u know?
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Jul 25, 2018 05:49
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CaptainViolence posted:i have literally never had the urge to listen to meshuggah before reading this sentence, but goddamn if my interest isn't piqued When Meshuggah clicks, they REALLY click like few other bands can.
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Jul 25, 2018 06:40
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CaptainViolence posted:i have literally never had the urge to listen to meshuggah before reading this sentence, but goddamn if my interest isn't piqued Meshuggah is one of the greatest bands ever. Listen to their latest album. It’s my favorite of theirs and a pretty good introduction. They’re very musical though, not wanky at all. It’s hard to get for some people but it’s not “indulgent” like a lot of techy bands.
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Jul 25, 2018 07:16
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Usually people who say things like "that's not really music" are people who wasted their time and money at Musicians Institute and have never made anything anyone in the world would ever want to hear, but they remember their scales so good on them for that I guess. The 80s were full of generic axe masturbators who sneered at hip-hop, dance music, and electronic but would have lined up for the chance to open for Racer X in front of no more than 20 male virgins. Now they're all bluesdads, if they're lucky. And if they aren't, they post on internet forums.
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Jul 25, 2018 17:01
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Usually if someone says something isn't music or art you can safely ignore their opinion.
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Jul 25, 2018 18:46
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Biggest Meltdowner posted:Usually if someone says something isn't music or art you can safely ignore their opinion. Exception: Roger Ebert was correct that video games are not art.
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Jul 25, 2018 18:48
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Biggest Meltdowner posted:Usually if someone says something isn't music or art you can safely ignore their opinion. It usually means I should check that poo poo out ASAP
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Jul 25, 2018 18:49
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Snowy posted:It usually means I should check that poo poo out ASAP Testify.
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Jul 25, 2018 18:49
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Stupid Music poo poo confession: I once had sex with Meshuggah's Obzen and the Akira Yamaoka Silent Hill 2 Soundtrack for one night. It was a thoroughly... unique night. Also, I never thought I'd find someone as crazy for Meshuggah as that one lady. No, I will not apologize for that wordplay. 
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Jul 25, 2018 19:12
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prefect posted:Exception: Roger Ebert was correct that video games are not art. That still makes me want to throw my lifelong love for Ebert away lmao It’s an excellent personal nerd trigger
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Jul 25, 2018 20:05
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prefect posted:Exception: Roger Ebert was correct that video games are not art.
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Jul 25, 2018 20:09
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listened to The Violent Sleep of Reason. it's definitely not my normal everyday jam, but i dig it. very textural. i think it's gonna be good "music to sit down with and really pay attention to when i want to think about music " along with, like, miles davis and john cage. thanks, thread!Snowy posted:It usually means I should check that poo poo out ASAP yeah, extremely this. i literally only know the name joe bonamassa because of the article where he complained about guitar effects that got posted in this thread, and he sticks in my mind purely as "i wish i knew what bands that guy doesn't like because i bet they are interesting as gently caress."
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Jul 25, 2018 21:32
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CaptainViolence posted:listened to The Violent Sleep of Reason. it's definitely not my normal everyday jam, but i dig it. very textural. i think it's gonna be good "music to sit down with and really pay attention to when i want to think about music " along with, like, miles davis and john cage. thanks, thread! Nice! Tap into the almost tribal and meditative feeling of Meshuggah if you can. That’s what I like about them. I love zoning out to the rhythms they craft. They’re always weird enough to take your brain to an interesting place but always resolve without losing focus. If you sit down and give them full attention you’ll certainly be rewarded. It sounds funny but I love Meshuggah just as much for doing the dishes as I do working out. They get me in a good head space.
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Jul 25, 2018 21:38
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Whoever says that Meshuggah is not workout music has never used "Combustion" for warm-up.
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Jul 25, 2018 21:39
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Wark Say posted:Whoever says that Meshuggah is not workout music has never used "Combustion" for warm-up. Preach!
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Wark Say posted:Whoever says that Meshuggah is not workout music has never used "Combustion" for warm-up. I’m going to do this in literally 5 minutes
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