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Mu Zeta: Oct 17, 2002; Me crush ass to dust

Henchman of Santa posted:

I�m rewatching Friday Night Lights. The first season includes a dark-skinned Katrina refugee as a straight up villain with zero sympathetic traits and the Latino linebacker is a violent criminal. I don�t think that would fly as easily today.

The cheerleader is also the least convincing Texan ever. She's not even trying to sound remotely like she's from Dillon.

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rodbeard: Jul 21, 2005

Friday Night Lights was a book based on the true story of the rich white kids tragically failing to defeat the scrappy minority underdog team. All of the people from the white school didn't notice that they were straight up 80s movie villians even while they were trying to get the black team disqualified on a technicality.

# ? Jul 25, 2018 08:39

Ein cooler Typ: Nov 26, 2013; by FactsAreUseless

what was the technicality? did the minority team actually violate it?

# ? Jul 25, 2018 10:58

Alhazred: Feb 16, 2011

Ein cooler Typ posted:

what was the technicality?

Being black.

# ? Jul 25, 2018 11:11

Jedit: Dec 10, 2011; Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

bobjr posted:

If I remember right TommyKnockers is another one King has no recollection of writing at all.

You don't. Tommyknockers is the book he wrote about his coke period. It being about people who become miraculously creative but come round with bleeding noses and no idea what they did.

# ? Jul 25, 2018 11:49

Choco1980: Feb 22, 2013; I fell in love with a Video Nasty

Danse Macabre, the nonfiction book King wrote about his thoughts on the horror genre in the early 80s is a good read full of autobiography. It also makes a big chunk of his later career laughable because of how much he basically lays out a gameplan of what ideas he would eventually shamelessly copy. For example, Rose Red is actively King rewriting Shirley Jackson's The Haunting of Hill House--in DM he heavily dissects the novel and the excellent 1963 film.

# ? Jul 25, 2018 12:47

Krispy Wafer: Jul 26, 2002; I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat; Grimey Drawer

business hammocks posted:

The only version that�s been available since like 1990 is the uncut one. I�d love to read the original one day to see the 70s pop culture references.

Did he update the references in the new version? I have a 1st edition at home and I've listened to the uncut version audiobook and I didn't think they updated any of the existing stuff - just added a poo poo-ton of new material that largely made the book better (never a guarantee). But it all kind of melts in my brain so I can't remember if they removed any of those groovy 70's parts.

Jedit posted:

It was pretty obvious how the heroes brought about Flagg's downfall if you'd watched or read the rest of it. In fact, it's literally the title of the story. They are instructed by Mother Abigail, speaking for God, to travel without food to Las Vegas and to stand against Flagg without weapons. When they do, God rewards them for this act of absolute faith by destroying Flagg. You might call that a dick move on God's part because he could have done it anyway, but when you're talking about Us vs Them you want to be sure that the people you're helping are Us and not Them.

A later book shows the Earth in the Stand as just one of many different dimensions or realms so it makes perfect sense that if you want divine help you gotta get God's attention, similar to getting the bartender to look at you on a Saturday night. The end of the Stand was God going, "oh...I'm sorry. I didn't see you over there."

And then King snorted another line.

# ? Jul 25, 2018 12:54

Choco1980: Feb 22, 2013; I fell in love with a Video Nasty

I've only listened to the uncut audiobook, but there were all sorts of little pop culture things like tv shows and car models that were definite updates. Which made it funnier for how much the music stuff is definitely untouched, feeling extremely anachronistic for it.

# ? Jul 25, 2018 13:14

Jedit: Dec 10, 2011; Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Choco1980 posted:

Danse Macabre, the nonfiction book King wrote about his thoughts on the horror genre in the early 80s is a good read full of autobiography. It also makes a big chunk of his later career laughable because of how much he basically lays out a gameplan of what ideas he would eventually shamelessly copy. For example, Rose Red is actively King rewriting Shirley Jackson's The Haunting of Hill House--in DM he heavily dissects the novel and the excellent 1963 film.

King has never said anything other than he's a pulp author who writes the kind of story he wants to read, though.

# ? Jul 25, 2018 13:24

Choco1980: Feb 22, 2013; I fell in love with a Video Nasty

There's a difference between writing the story you want to read and writing the story you've already read.

# ? Jul 25, 2018 14:54

Ugly In The Morning: Jul 1, 2010; Pillbug

I have the 70�s edition of The Stand in my storage unit but I haven�t gotten to read it yet. I�ll have to find it and dust it off.

# ? Jul 25, 2018 15:16

Koalas March: May 21, 2007

I really love Stephen King despite his flaws. Liseys Story is extremely my poo poo. It's my dream to adapt it. That said, he also curbed ideas from lots of Twilight Zone episodes.

I've been watching TZ and it aged really well. Rod Sterling is a TV Hero of mine. He was called Hollywood's angry young man. He was super liberal and despite being a veteran he let his antiwar and antiracism views color a lot of the episodes.

# ? Jul 25, 2018 15:38

Samuringa: Mar 27, 2017; Best advice I was ever given?

"Ticker, you'll be a lot happier once you stop caring about the opinions of a culture that is beneath you."

I learned my worth, learned the places and people that matter.

Opened my eyes.

Choco1980 posted:

There's a difference between writing the story you want to read and writing the story you've already read.

and writing the story you've already read but you've forgotten about it because that part of your brain doesn't exist anymore.

# ? Jul 25, 2018 15:39

Iron Crowned: May 6, 2003; by Hand Knit

I read an early 80's edition of the Stand I got from a thrift store in the 90's. I really didn't notice anything, but I also wouldn't know what a Studebaker was other than a jokey car name. I have never read a complete and uncut edition, but I remember there was like a whole chapter about one of the women admiring her own titties.

# ? Jul 25, 2018 15:43

Krispy Wafer: Jul 26, 2002; I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat; Grimey Drawer

Iron Crowned posted:

I read an early 80's edition of the Stand I got from a thrift store in the 90's. I really didn't notice anything, but I also wouldn't know what a Studebaker was other than a jokey car name. I have never read a complete and uncut edition, but I remember there was like a whole chapter about one of the women admiring her own titties.

So King is really realistic because we all know women spend an inordinate amount of time admiring their own titties.

I have no idea if The Stand would need a lot of updating to make it more modern or relevant. Obviously Captain Trips would be more difficult to hide with Facebook, but once the government got involved and started shutting the press down it'd be remarkably easy to withhold info.

It was cool how the movie It opened up King to a whole new generation which was then profoundly turned off to King by The Dark Tower.

# ? Jul 25, 2018 15:57

Ugly In The Morning: Jul 1, 2010; Pillbug

Krispy Wafer posted:

So King is really realistic because we all know women spend an inordinate amount of time admiring their own titties.

I have no idea if The Stand would need a lot of updating to make it more modern or relevant. Obviously Captain Trips would be more difficult to hide with Facebook, but once the government got involved and started shutting the press down it'd be remarkably easy to withhold info.

It was cool how the movie It opened up King to a whole new generation which was then profoundly turned off to King by The Dark Tower.

God, It. It�s a really good book that I�ll never read again because it�s so long. And it feels long in a way The Stand doesn�t.

# ? Jul 25, 2018 16:00

Iron Crowned: May 6, 2003; by Hand Knit

Krispy Wafer posted:

I have no idea if The Stand would need a lot of updating to make it more modern or relevant. Obviously Captain Trips would be more difficult to hide with Facebook, but once the government got involved and started shutting the press down it'd be remarkably easy to withhold info.

Rumors of Captain Tripps are fake news. Flagg would definitely gain lots of followers using Facebook/Youtube/etc.

Really though, why not just go and set a high budget remake of The Stand as a period piece in the original time period of the early 80's?

# ? Jul 25, 2018 16:11

BiggerBoat: Sep 26, 2007; Don't you tell me my business again.

Koalas March posted:

I've been watching TZ and it aged really well. Rod Sterling is a TV Hero of mine. He was called Hollywood's angry young man. He was super liberal and despite being a veteran he let his antiwar and antiracism views color a lot of the episodes.

TZ has agers great. So have Alfred Hitchcock Presents and Night Gallery come to think of it.

# ? Jul 25, 2018 16:15

I AM GRANDO: Aug 20, 2006

I've been getting into The Outer Limits, too. It seems like it positioned itself as a bleaker, more extreme Twilight Zone, but it holds up very well. All those shows were basically just a different stage play every week and showcase a lot of strong writing and acting from a time before the people making television worked their whole lives in television.

# ? Jul 25, 2018 16:22

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