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Flytrap posted:Hell, I never knew Dragon's Dogma was supposed to be a big deal until *right now*. I thought it was some C-team thing that got coded in a couple months and then flopped out the door once it looked vaguely done. Nope, and like many games, it's scope far exceeded what they could actually do, and a lot of what they planned simply couldn't be done.
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tbh i never head of dragon's dogma. is it good and sold poorly or is it just poor?
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Jul 14, 2018 14:29
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Mans posted:tbh i never head of dragon's dogma. is it good and sold poorly or is it just poor? It's really good. It's a bit janky and weird but it's quite special and absolutely worth playing.
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Jul 14, 2018 14:32
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Mans posted:tbh i never head of dragon's dogma. is it good and sold poorly or is it just poor? It's good. There's some weird, inexplicable poo poo in there, but nothing else really scratches the same itch it does.
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Jul 14, 2018 14:39
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Imo there's really not another game quite like Dragon's Dogma. They really made fighting big monsters fun, and I can't recall a game that has made high level magic so obscene. Solid minute of casting, then boom a giant tornado sending Goblins everywhere. Slightly related, pawns learning from players was really good and hilarious. Taught a pawn to collect apples with the afformentioned tornado.
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I always liked how Dragon's Dogma art direction felt like a Larry Elmore Painting. Pictured, the Arisen and his pawns about to mount a dragon. Nasgate posted:Imo there's really not another game quite like Dragon's Dogma. They really made fighting big monsters fun, and I can't recall a game that has made high level magic so obscene.    And everyone's favorite:  Yes, you can set yourself on fire and then tackle giant monsters to stab them in the bits. While on fire.
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Mans posted:tbh i never head of dragon's dogma. is it good and sold poorly or is it just poor? probably the most incredible combat system in any ARPG, nothing comes close to it. Unfortunately almost everything else about the game is so loving boring and droll, which is probably why the game failed. I'd love to see a sequel if the design and writing for the game got a huge overhaul.
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Flytrap posted:Hell, I never knew Dragon's Dogma was supposed to be a big deal until *right now*. I thought it was some C-team thing that got coded in a couple months and then flopped out the door once it looked vaguely done. Capcom saw that fantasy RPGs, such as Fable and Oblivion, were very doing and wanted to get in on the success. Hideaki Itsuno had been pitching the idea for Dragon's Dogma for years and finally got the greenlight. It was supposed to be the start of a multi-media franchise for the publisher. I think there's strong potential for a co-op open world Dragon Dogma 2 in today's market. Many publishers are making co-op loot based action RPGs with a service model. However, I'm not sure Capcom would be willing to put a Resident Evil/Monster Hunter budget on it.
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Jul 14, 2018 15:35
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Just translate DD online
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I wanted to enjoy Dragon's Dogma, but I keep bouncing off it because after 14 hours of play time I've killed a bunch of wolves/goblins, and fought maybe 2 giant monsters I was actually expected to kill.
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I've tried getting into Dragon's Dogma again recently too, but I never get farther than Gran Soren. I managed to go the other path before it early on where all the really strong enemies and chimera are and killed them, but I don't know, the game just doesn't click for me. It just feels like an MMO to me for some reason, and I'm not fond of that. I might go back to play it at some later date, but yeah, it's kinda boring.
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Flytrap posted:Hell, I never knew Dragon's Dogma was supposed to be a big deal until *right now*. I thought it was some C-team thing that got coded in a couple months and then flopped out the door once it looked vaguely done. same
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To be fair to Dragon's Dogma, it released in very difficult market conditions. Diablo 3 and Max Payne 3 released a week before and sucked the oxygen out of the room. We were also seeing a lot of games underperform during this time as the userbase was ready to transition to next-gen systems after an unusually long generation.
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It also barely ran on the consoles of the time and took way too long to come to PC.
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For those bouncing off, I recommend a)trying different classes and b)getting to grand soren asap for the cross classes I personally never really enjoyed mages much but woo boy I love magic knight and mystic archer.
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https://twitter.com/GameAnim/status/1019574504702394369 I know, resetera, grain of salt, yadda yadda but, uh... What?
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Jul 18, 2018 20:29
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read the replies, that tweet is weirdly misinformative
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Jul 18, 2018 20:37
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Goddamit Capcom, you're not making Uncharted or something.
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Jul 18, 2018 20:39
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literally at the top of the thread the guy links in the tweet https://twitter.com/OneSanitarium/status/1019656054400081920
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Jul 18, 2018 20:44
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We're gonna be able to play the game real soon, why spread misinformation? They can just wait and see.
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Jul 18, 2018 20:54
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it probably wasn't intentional, he's just a naughty dog game animator guy who made a weird jump based on a vague snippet of an interview without giving any real context or a direct link straight to the interview itself. at least the thread he linked to edited that tweet to the top of the op
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ACES CURE PLANES posted:https://twitter.com/GameAnim/status/1019574504702394369 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA PANIC The Colonel posted:literally at the top of the thread the guy links in the tweet oh, nevermind then Panic averted.
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Jul 18, 2018 22:07
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So it's less that jump canceling is canceled and more that they're giving it frames to make it look a little less goofy. I can get behind that.
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That's always been one of those little things I dislike but isn't ever important enough for devs to wanna do things with, so I'm super up for making cancels and transitions look cooler.
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Jul 18, 2018 23:08
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My Devil Trigger was very nearly pulled
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Flytrap posted:So it's less that jump canceling is canceled and more that they're giving it frames to make it look a little less goofy. I can get behind that. yeah this is very good news maybe someday they'll finally make the hitboxes match the in game models too
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People Relax DMC5 is going to be good Bang bang
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hold up you're saying all the clothing is also real
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Mans posted:tbh i never head of dragon's dogma. is it good and sold poorly or is it just poor? It is good and sold a decent amount for a new IP(4m). Like others said Capcom didn't show off anything good about it and entirely blundered the marketing. It looked like a generic rpg medieval game but it was basically action game with rpg mechanics and medieval setting. They rereleased it on PS4/XB1 which is always a good sign. I am pretty sure most of the sales of this game were due to word of mouth and the fanbase. The reviewers thought it was average to good. Also saw this on the subreddit. 
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I know it probably doesn't, but I'd really like it if those "small differences" included "no more awful gimmick secret missions"
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Ulio posted:It is good and sold a decent amount for a new IP(4m). Like others said Capcom didn't show off anything good about it and entirely blundered the marketing. It looked like a generic rpg medieval game but it was basically action game with rpg mechanics and medieval setting. They rereleased it on PS4/XB1 which is always a good sign. Also the plot goes off the loving rails once you beat it
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the animation cancelling re-work sounds like an assload of effort for something that I've never really minded in previous DMC games, but if they can pull it off good on them
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i bet the change to the red orb system is that you also collect nuts and bolts like in Ratchet and Clank, to make crazier devil breakers https://i.imgur.com/u9sRD8V.mp4
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CharlestonJew posted:the animation cancelling re-work sounds like an assload of effort for something that I've never really minded in previous DMC games, but if they can pull it off good on them The description of it as "the uncanny valley of action" implies that the improved graphics of this console generation makes it more noticeable and awkward than it was before. So while it may not have been a problem then, it's a problem now.
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"devil breakers will break if attacked" uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh this sounds terrible
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DLC Inc posted:"devil breakers will break if attacked" uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh this sounds terrible yeah this sounds really annoying
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I imagine it'd going to be somewhat like magic in Bayonetta where they're not the thing the game is based around and instead part of the encouragement to avoid damage and string together combos.
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