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Killed NKG just now. Super fun boss. The vines were what hosed me up the most somehow.
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Everyone who's beaten NKG, have you tried... NGG? I imagine modders have had fun making that one.
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Jul 24, 2018 23:26
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Boom, Dream No More ending complete. That was satisfying. I will probably revisit the game at some point for the Grimm Troupe content and the eventual Gods And Glory expansion, but for now I am done. Also, boy did I get the Lore wrong. I thought the Infection was the thing that originally killed Wyrm, before the became the Pale King and granting the bugs of Hallownest sentience. I thought that it linked to that sentience somehow; getting rid of one would destroy the other, thus the Hollow Knight sealing it. Made sense to me in that the choice in the end is to perpetuate what little is left or to deliver the final blow to a dead kingdom. Didn’t really consider that it was caused (intentionally or unintentionally) by the screams of a different, forgotten god. Can’t say that I know which I prefer more but it has its own appeal.
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Jul 25, 2018 05:59
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I can burn down the last boss quite quickly to phase 4, but I keep falling off the drat stage!
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Jul 25, 2018 08:54
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Take it slow. You are under less pressure than it seems.
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Jul 25, 2018 11:11
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Dancer posted:Take it slow. You are under less pressure than it seems. Did exactly that and got it done. Was only at 106 per cent when I downed him. Somehow missed getting Shade Soul the entire time.
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Jul 25, 2018 13:43
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Any tips for someone banging their head against the Watcher Knights? Techniques and whatnot? I know about reducing their numbers by 1. But I can barely make it to # 3. I have at least a twice upgraded nail. (I think?) I suppose I should just walk away and come back, as I have not explored the White Palace nor many places for Monarch Wings. I just get stubbornly intent on things..
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Jul 25, 2018 21:03
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Feenix posted:Any tips for someone banging their head against the Watcher Knights? Techniques and whatnot? I know about reducing their numbers by 1. But I can barely make it to # 3. I have at least a twice upgraded nail. (I think?) All hail the downward slash. The downward slash is your friend and saviour. Also yeah, Monarch Wings help a lot. If what you're saying is that you don't have them yet, go get them And finally, a spell build works great. Something like improved spells + improved soul gain per slash. The fireball can hit knights while they're rolling, and I think it can even hit them multiple times (besides just hitting both of them with one shot which is already nice).
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Jul 25, 2018 22:14
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Feenix posted:Any tips for someone banging their head against the Watcher Knights? Techniques and whatnot? I know about reducing their numbers by 1. But I can barely make it to # 3. I have at least a twice upgraded nail. (I think?)
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Jul 25, 2018 22:21
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The watcher knights have three attacks: A horizontal spin dash. Jump over them when they do this move. You can pogo off the watcher as it passes under you for extra air time, which lets you save your air dash to evade an attack from the second knight. If a knight hits a wall early in the dash they'll deflect off it and spin in the opposite direction, so keep that in mind. Ideally you want to avoid putting your back to a wall. A spin jump. If they do a little bounce while spinning up, you know they're jumping. Just walk under them while they're in the air (adjusting for whatever the second knight's doing; sometimes you gotta thread the needle if one goes high and the other goes low). A sword combo. This is the easiest attack to avoid and also your best chance to get some hits in. You can pogo off them while they're swinging, just make sure to get away afterwards or you might get clipped by a jump. Spells are pretty cool in this fight and lets you burst down a knight quickly. Consider trying some spell charms if you aren't using them already.
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Jul 25, 2018 22:21
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Dancer posted:Also yeah, Monarch Wings help a lot. If what you're saying is that you don't have them yet, go get them He's saying he hasn't found many places to use them. You can get to the Watcher Knights without them, but you need to do a perfectly timed pogo jump off of a pot near the ledge without them, so they're pretty much necessary.
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Jul 25, 2018 22:23
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It is never a bad idea to fall back on spells for bosses, especially if you are charmed for extra soul, reduced cost for spells, extra damage for spells, or some combination thereof. Unlucky7 fucked around with this message at 22:34 on Jul 25, 2018 |
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Jul 25, 2018 22:26
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Please no spoilers: I just made my way into City of Tears, down a few elevators and out into a big open main room. I climbed up and at the top platform was a flying bug over a body with an Inspect sign. As I fought the bug, I fell off, and when I got back up, the prompt to inspect was gone and never came back. What was there? Did I get something and somehow not notice?
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Jul 25, 2018 22:41
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dantheman650 posted:Please no spoilers: It's a Hallownest seal, maybe you actually picked it up but the prompt got interrupted? It should be on the inventory screen if so.
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Jul 25, 2018 22:45
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Pigbuster posted:It's a Hallownest seal, maybe you actually picked it up but the prompt got interrupted? It should be on the inventory screen if so. Ahh yep! That must be it. Thanks. Also, I can’t believe how wonderful this game is. I’ve been playing all week and when I’m not playing I’m thinking about it. I’ve been avoiding all information so every single thing is an amazing new surprise. It’s so so very good. Going to back right out of this thread now until I beat it!
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Jul 25, 2018 23:04
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Feenix posted:Any tips for someone banging their head against the Watcher Knights? Techniques and whatnot? I know about reducing their numbers by 1. But I can barely make it to # 3. I have at least a twice upgraded nail. (I think?) It helped me to stay in the center of the stage rather than running off to the sides. That way, you can see what they're going to do before they do it and can prepare rather than guessing whether or not they're going to fly across the screen and bean you in the head.
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Jul 26, 2018 00:32
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Final boss spoilers but if anyone wants a REALLY easy way to beat it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykeEovN7O44
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Jul 26, 2018 02:25
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flukenest was nerfed once or twice since then
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Jul 26, 2018 03:07
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Regy Rusty posted:For the last one you can still do it. Loading your file puts you back at your last bench save Yeah i know, i just wanted to be done with the game for a while and start playing octopath
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Jul 26, 2018 03:08
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Rex-Goliath posted:Final boss spoilers but if anyone wants a REALLY easy way to beat it: After struggling for a few days to beat that boss, your video made me very happy.
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Jul 26, 2018 03:51
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Just wanted everyone here to know that the spin attack is deceptively awesome. 1. You actually extend the spin time and number of strikes by repeatedly tapping the sword button, something the game does not tell you for some reason. 2. Each hit does 1.2x damage, so it allows you to rack up a lot of damage very quickly. 3. You can move around while spinning. This lets you start the spin outside an enemy's range and move into them, which in some cases allows you to bypass their shields because they aren't programmed to block that. It was the spin attack combined with Nailmaster's Glory that made my second playthrough fight with the Watcher Knights a relative cakewalk.
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Jul 27, 2018 01:12
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uuuuuuuuuuuuuh so I killed a spider and now the crossroads is hosed UP
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Jul 27, 2018 11:46
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tithin posted:uuuuuuuuuuuuuh so I killed a spider and now the crossroads is hosed UP Good job, hero.
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Jul 27, 2018 13:34
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Can't make an omelet without unleashing a scourge of death and disease
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Jul 27, 2018 13:52
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The infection does look like it would make a pretty decent omelette
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Jul 27, 2018 13:58
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Spergatory posted:Just wanted everyone here to know that the spin attack is deceptively awesome. WHAT
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Jul 27, 2018 17:40
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i've found if you've got enough time and room to maneuver to hit an enemy with a full set of spin attack hits without getting whomped in return the enemy generally isn't dangerous enough to warrant using the full spin attack
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Jul 27, 2018 17:45
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addendum that if you're damage racing and getting whomped is part and parcel of your strategy then quick slash and fragile strength is more effective at accomplishing that. it leaves the spin in kind of a weird place.
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Jul 27, 2018 17:53
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Yeah but that's because quick slash and fragile strength are very strong individually and loving broken when combined (though these things are also consequences of nail upgrades being so strong)
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Jul 27, 2018 18:38
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Is it explained what actually causes the infection? Besides the need for an increase in difficulty 
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Jul 27, 2018 19:10
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cosmin posted:Is it explained what actually causes the infection? Besides the need for an increase in difficulty Yes, to the extent anything is explained.
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Jul 27, 2018 19:40
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If you’re asking what triggers the infected crossroads, it’s destroying one of the three seals or beating Broken Vessel in Ancient Basin iirc
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Jul 27, 2018 19:53
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cosmin posted:Is it explained what actually causes the infection? Besides the need for an increase in difficulty It depends. There are two NPCs who essentially explain the entire plot to you but they can be entirely skipped. If you beat the game and are still unsure wtf is going on then: look for Bardoon in Kingdom's Edge and exhaust the dialogue with the Seer Moth by fully upgrading your dream nail
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Jul 27, 2018 20:48
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If you want a more lore based explanation (with spoilers) it's If you kill the Broken Vessel all the infection spreading creatures from that area of the Ancient Basin and spread it in the Crossroads. If you kill a Dreamer the seal on the Hollow Knight weakens and allows more infection to spread from Black Egg Temple. Two different potential causes with the same outcome. edit This is specifically about the infection in the Crossroads.
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Jul 27, 2018 20:49
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Cowcaster posted:addendum that if you're damage racing and getting whomped is part and parcel of your strategy then quick slash and fragile strength is more effective at accomplishing that. it leaves the spin in kind of a weird place. Counterpoint; Quick Splash plus Fragile Strength requires six charm notches. Nailmaster's Glory requires only one! It's the biggest reason I like it so much; careful use of nail arts can give you a lot of the benefits of the quick slash, range, and strength charms without taking up nearly as much space on your belt. Spin attack is also really helpful in the Coliseum. Most things that can't be killed with a single charged slash will bow to an extended spin attack.
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Jul 27, 2018 22:45
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Finally managed to do Radiance. Takes me a long time to actually get enough memorisation to do bosses but I'm glad I managed to do it. IIRC I used shaman stone, soul mirror, quick slash and quick focus and it worked pretty well. I was on three life when I got to the ascent and got clipped once during it, and my hands were literally shaking when I jumped up and managed to get the Radiance. On my to do list currently: do NKG, path of pain, do the dream bosses (all apart from white defender) and trial of fools. Fifty hours played but it was worth it.
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Jul 28, 2018 21:39
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Tekopo posted:Finally managed to do Radiance. Takes me a long time to actually get enough memorisation to do bosses but I'm glad I managed to do it. IIRC I used shaman stone, soul mirror, quick slash and quick focus and it worked pretty well. I was on three life when I got to the ascent and got clipped once during it, and my hands were literally shaking when I jumped up and managed to get the Radiance. On my to do list currently: do NKG, path of pain, do the dream bosses (all apart from white defender) and trial of fools. Fifty hours played but it was worth it. What do you have against White Defender?
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Jul 28, 2018 21:43
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Arrhythmia posted:What do you have against White Defender?
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Jul 29, 2018 00:27
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I’m so loving tired of running up against the Watcher Knight wall. This is the first boss encounter in the game to basically have me trying 50+ times. I just can’t manage to do the “dodge the ground rolling guy and the bouncing guy” tango.
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Feenix posted:I’m so loving tired of running up against the Watcher Knight wall. This is the first boss encounter in the game to basically have me trying 50+ times. I just can’t manage to do the “dodge the ground rolling guy and the bouncing guy” tango. Come back later. There's so much other stuff you can do and by the time you roll back through with some upgrades he'll be no problem. I hit the wall with him too and wandered off and didn't find myself coming back for hours. You want something really lovely? I attempted the fragile flower thing tonight and hosed it up IN THE FINAL ROOM. FUUUUUCK
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