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crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*
Well, poo poo.

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Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
https://twitter.com/davidmunk/status/1022294809170522112

Water wet, sky blue.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

Anidav posted:

Australian entrepreneur Dick Smith has announced he is closing his line of Australian-made groceries, Dick Smith Foods, blaming competition by the Aldi supermarket chain, which he says has made it impossible for his brands to continue selling enough to maintain its presence on supermarket shelves.

As he made the announcement publicly at a press conference on Thursday morning, Mr Smith choked back tears, saying he tried to save the jobs of workers in Australia but failed.

“I couldn’t, I couldn’t. It was beyond me,” he said.

The closure will affect four staff directly and hundreds or even thousands employed by various suppliers around the country over the next 12 months, Mr Smith said.

Mr Smith said he believed that Aldi's aggressive low-cost business model would eventually challenge Australian giants Coles and Woolworths.

"Unless Coles and Woolworths match Aldi by reducing their product range to about 1700 lines and getting rid of about 75 per cent of their staff, I don't know how they can compete," he said.

Mr Smith said that Aldi maintained low cost not just by sourcing cheap overseas foodstuffs, but also by keeping down the number of products it sold so that it did not need as many staff to stock shelves and maintain its stores. The money saved in employment costs was then redirected to the company's private owners, he said.

"You've got this company that has now been voted the most trusted brand in Australia ... Most people don't know that it is a private German company that works on the principal of getting people sacked and importing from the absolute lowest countries in the world," he said.

As an example, he said that Dick Smith Foods' peanut butter, sourced from local growers, sold for $1.28 per 100 grams, while its Aldi competition sold for 48¢ for the same amount.

He said that, when Aldi entered the Australian market, it sourced much of its grocery line from Australian producers, but now that it was established it relied on lower cost international producers.

On Wednesday, Mr Smith sent a letter to the managing directors of Coles and Woolworths supermarkets, as well as to the chief executive of Metcash Group, which controls IGA, to explain his decision. The letter included a chart that showed how Dick Smith Food sales had declined in Australia since 2001 at a similar rate to the increase of Aldi turnover.

"By a fluke of birth [Aldi's owners] are multi-billionaires when we have five million Australians who live pay packet to pay packet," he wrote.

"It looks as there is nothing we can do about this. It is simply modern extreme capitalism."
Mr Smith also wrote to Aldi's owners Karl Albrecht and Beate Heister via the chief executive officer of Aldi Australia, Tom Daunt, to outline his concerns about the impact of Aldi in Australia.

"Karle and Beate, I understand you are the son and daughter of Mr Karl Albrecht Snr, who came up with the Aldi 'plan'. That is, basically sharing the wealth less. Your father, who started the great expansion of the company, worked out that by having a lesser selection of products, you could therefore employ less workers.

"I have an important question to ask you. When will enough be enough?"

He accused the family of running a secretive company that it had used to accumulate a personal fortune of $40 billion, and invited them to come to Australia to explain their long term plans.

"What I want to know … is their plan to keep expanding here and to take over the market place? I suspect it is."

In a letter to Fairfax Media Mr Daunt said that Aldi had "never sought to 'maximise' profits at the cost of something or someone else".

"Continually maximising profits becomes a zero sum game. If you truly partner with suppliers, you'll develop long term prosperity for both parties to the benefit of customers. If you look after your employees they will enjoy turning up to work and they'll enjoy looking after customers.

"We proudly support an Australian first buying policy and have shared our growth with hundreds of Australian manufacturers and thousands of staff who have been direct benefactors of our business growth.

"We are not a business trying to artificially accelerate market share and we're not looking to match the store count of our competitors. We do not cut corners, we do not abuse our market power, we do not mislead our customers. We do not avoid tax payments, we do not squeeze our suppliers. We keep things simple and we focus our attention on what matters most to consumers."

A Woolworths spokesperson told Fairfax Media: "Dick Smith Foods is an iconic Aussie brand that many of our customers love and support, so we're sad to hear this news.

"More and more of our customers tell us that a one-size-fits-all approach to supermarket ranging doesn't deliver what they want or need.

"It's why our long-term vision is to broaden the range of products we carry across our network, so we can deliver more tailored and locally relevant ranges for our customers in their local store."

Dick Smith Food was established in 1999 as part of an effort by Mr Smith to support Australian farmers and employees. Since then it has had sales of about $480 million. Mr Smith said he had never taken a cent from the business, but had donated about $10 million in profits to various causes, most recently a $1 million donation to the Country Women's Association for drought relief.

Despite his own fortune Mr Smith has long called upon Australia's wealthiest citizens to pay higher taxes and give away more in philanthropy.

Dick's pulling out.

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

I have to kill fast
and mayflies too slow

Pillbug
four staff directly

froglet
Nov 12, 2009

You see, the best way to Stop the Boats is a massive swarm of autonomous armed dogs. Strafing a few boats will stop the rest and save many lives in the long term.

You can't make an Omelet without breaking a few eggs. Vote Greens.

You Am I posted:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-07-26/why-roads-are-becoming-narrower-in-the-suburbs/10032984

Yes, with people owning and driving huge arsed wide SUVs and blocking up the streets as they are, making it havoc for emergency workers, narrowing the streets even further is a brilliant idea!

LOL at the idea of it reducing Australia's dependency on private vehicles, as if that will ever happen.

Apparently frustrating people into not driving actually works, though.

When my husband and I moved house we decided that the carport was such a pain to park in with two cars it'd be better if we sold my car and dealt with any irritation or annoyance of only having one car as it came up rather than the every day annoyance of figuring out how to park or get my bike out. So far it's been fine and we're saving a thousand or so dollars a year in misc car stuff.

I mean, if you live <10km from your work and hobbies and you're close to public transport, you can easily get by with one or no car, and maybe this is the nudge people need to start look at alternatives.

Friendly Fire
Dec 29, 2004
All my friends got me for my birthday was this stupid custom title. Fuck my friends.

froglet posted:

I mean, if you live <10km from your work and hobbies and you're close to public transport, you can easily get by with one or no car, and maybe this is the nudge people need to start look at alternatives.

If I had public transport that even ran before my 6am shifts started, I'd sell one of our cars.

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

froglet posted:

Apparently frustrating people into not driving actually works, though.

When my husband and I moved house we decided that the carport was such a pain to park in with two cars it'd be better if we sold my car and dealt with any irritation or annoyance of only having one car as it came up rather than the every day annoyance of figuring out how to park or get my bike out. So far it's been fine and we're saving a thousand or so dollars a year in misc car stuff.

I mean, if you live <10km from your work and hobbies and you're close to public transport, you can easily get by with one or no car, and maybe this is the nudge people need to start look at alternatives.

Yes, but if you're a family who has to live on the fringe because of housing costs that poo poo isn't easy because there's never any proper public transport infrastructure outside of buses, and having to travel at least an hour to get to your workplace or relatives.

I don't want to be harsh on you being a typical inner city Greenie, but jeez froglet.

avshalemon
Jun 28, 2018

the guardian is good and needs our help

Les Affaires
Nov 15, 2004

You Am I posted:

Yes, but if you're a family who has to live on the fringe because of housing costs that poo poo isn't easy because there's never any proper public transport infrastructure outside of buses, and having to travel at least an hour to get to your workplace or relatives.

I don't want to be harsh on you being a typical inner city Greenie, but jeez froglet.

Somehow I doubt the narrowing of streets will affect the outer suburbs before it does the inner ones.

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

Les Affaires posted:

Somehow I doubt the narrowing of streets will affect the outer suburbs before it does the inner ones.

Depends, if major roadways like for example in Melbourne, Kings Way or St Kilda Road get narrowed too much, it will balloon the travel times for people travelling in from the fringes.

Periphery
Jul 27, 2003
...

You Am I posted:

Depends, if major roadways like for example in Melbourne, Kings Way or St Kilda Road get narrowed too much, it will balloon the travel times for people travelling in from the fringes.

They aren't talking about making major arterial roads narrower, just making stupidly wide local streets more fit for their purpose.

meteor9
Nov 23, 2007

"That's why I put up with it."
Given the average australian is already terrified of parking in their driveway and will 99% of the time park in the road, and the average suburb road can fit maybe one car down it, I can't imagine how this'll work out safely.

Then again maybe I'm just extremely bitter about DRIVINGS.

EDIT: 'can fit maybe one car down it' due to both sides being lined with parked cars, I mean.

BBJoey
Oct 31, 2012

Anidav posted:

Australian entrepreneur Dick Smith has announced he is closing his line of Australian-made groceries, Dick Smith Foods, blaming competition by the Aldi supermarket chain, which he says has made it impossible for his brands to continue selling enough to maintain its presence on supermarket shelves.

capitalist cries on discovering other capitalists are better at capitalism than he

Gentleman Baller
Oct 13, 2013
RIP Dick Smith's OzEnuts. That thing I bought one time as a joke but honestly it didn't taste as good as craft. The brightest flames burn out quickest.

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe

BBJoey posted:

capitalist cries on discovering other capitalists are better at capitalism than he

"Won't somebody save us from capitalism" weeps capitalist.

ShoeFly
Dec 28, 2006

Waiter, there's a fly in my shoe!

Senor Tron posted:

When I think "flourishing jobs market" I too think of post-Brexit UK.

I have a fairly specialised skillset and there's exponentially more demand in London than in Sydney.

Plus I'm moving to be closer to the other half's family, so the employment opportunities don't really come into account here.

Don Dongington
Sep 27, 2005

#ideasboom
College Slice
I literally cannot think of a single Dick Smith's food product that was actually better than other commercially available products and maybe that's why your business is dying hth

Resident Idiot
May 11, 2007

Maxine13
Grimey Drawer
OzeMite is better than Vegemite.

If you can't have gluten, anyway.

froglet
Nov 12, 2009

You see, the best way to Stop the Boats is a massive swarm of autonomous armed dogs. Strafing a few boats will stop the rest and save many lives in the long term.

You can't make an Omelet without breaking a few eggs. Vote Greens.

You Am I posted:

Yes, but if you're a family who has to live on the fringe because of housing costs that poo poo isn't easy because there's never any proper public transport infrastructure outside of buses, and having to travel at least an hour to get to your workplace or relatives.

I don't want to be harsh on you being a typical inner city Greenie, but jeez froglet.

Yeah, it definitely doesn't work when you live on the fringe, but I'm all for narrowing the roads in established areas (e.g. by installing bike paths etc). That being said that's because my current experience is how despite living in an area extremely well serviced by public transport and a significant proportion of my neighbours taking public transport to and from work every day, a large portion of those houses have multiple cars that aren't being used and just sit on the street all day (the house behind me has three motorbikes, three cars and a ute and only three people living there. They spend a ridiculous amount of time shuffling them all around).

There's cars on the street that I see move once a week at most (which I'm sure is against some council by-laws, but I'm not going to dob them in), it's hardly a good use of public space.

Then I go doorknocking in Leederville (an inner-city suburb) and everyone I talk to complains about the lack of street side parking as if it's the government's responsibility to provide people with public spaces to park their private vehicles on a semi-permanent basis. Leederville has two train stations, multiple bus routes and is one of the better areas to cycle in, and while I have sympathy for the people who don't have any choice but to drive (e.g. tradespeople), maybe everyone would be better off if more people stopped expecting streetside parking to be their god-given right, stopled using their garages as storage space for that chest of drawers that'll be worth a mint one day and instead use it for its intended purpose: Parking their car. Boom, parking issues mostly alleviated. (Also I've never had any issue finding parking in Leederville the rare occasion I drive there, but then again I'm perfectly capable of walking three or more blocks).

Edit: Not to bag out Leederville too much, especially since there's many buildings there and in the Mt Hawthorn area that were built before the car supremacy. Just it frustrates me nobody tells people moving to these areas that if you want to live there maybe you should give up some of the conveniences a car offers because the infrastructure doesn't exist to support it and it's pretty difficult to retrofit those in unless you want to extensively modify your house to include a garage.

froglet fucked around with this message at 05:25 on Jul 26, 2018

Box of Bunnies
Apr 3, 2012

by Pragmatica

Don Dongington posted:

I literally cannot think of a single Dick Smith's food product that was actually better than other commercially available products and maybe that's why your business is dying hth

No, it's definitely the crafty Krauts sneaking in and squeezing out fair dinkum Aussie businessmen

swimsuit
Jan 22, 2009

yeah
"at least we still have the guardian" lol

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again

swimsuit posted:

"at least we still have the guardian" lol

Keen for 7 to buy the guardian

Sparticle
Oct 7, 2012

Vegemite, Craft Peanut Butter and Bonox are now owned by the Australian cheese company that isn't a racial slur. There is little reason to buy knock-off products from a racist someone deeply concerned about overpopulation.

Konomex
Oct 25, 2010

a whiteman who has some authority over others, who not only hasn't raped anyone, or stared at them creepily...
I'm honestly surprised he managed to run his business based on a gimmick for this long. Since all products have those fancy little 'how much was made in Australia, or sourced from Australia' stickers now we don't need Dick Jokes Smith products to know what's local.

Mr Chips
Jun 27, 2007
Whose arse do I have to blow smoke up to get rid of this baby?

Don Dongington posted:

I literally cannot think of a single Dick Smith's food product that was actually better than other commercially available products and maybe that's why your business is dying hth
not being a profit-shifting, tax-avoiding multinational didn't do his business any favours either.

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.
Dick Smith, noted capitalist, is defeated by the Forces of the Free Market ™

Don Dongington
Sep 27, 2005

#ideasboom
College Slice

Recoome posted:

Dick Smith, noted nationalist, is defeated by the SHADY GERMANS >_> <_<

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
Wow I thought Dick would be more popular in this thread.

Don Dongington
Sep 27, 2005

#ideasboom
College Slice
Remember that time he tried to run for Parliament and we were all "COOL" because he was going to challenge Abbott for his seat and then "eww" when he came out on an anti-immigration platform?

froglet
Nov 12, 2009

You see, the best way to Stop the Boats is a massive swarm of autonomous armed dogs. Strafing a few boats will stop the rest and save many lives in the long term.

You can't make an Omelet without breaking a few eggs. Vote Greens.

Don Dongington posted:

I literally cannot think of a single Dick Smith's food product that was actually better than other commercially available products and maybe that's why your business is dying hth

If you care about palm oil and rainforest destruction Dick Smith products were good in that they didn't have any in them (or at least, they didn't when I last checked).

snoremac
Jul 27, 2012

I LOVE SEEING DEAD BABIES ON 𝕏, THE EVERYTHING APP. IT'S WORTH IT FOR THE FOLLOWING TAB.

Dicksallnacht

asio
Nov 29, 2008

"Also Sprach Arnold Jacobs: A Developmental Guide for Brass Wind Musicians" refers to the mullet as an important tool for professional cornet playing and box smashing black and blood
Dick Smith is the type of capitalist who has a healthy fear of and respect for the guillotine.

bigis
Jun 21, 2006
#putoutyourdicks

Don Dongington
Sep 27, 2005

#ideasboom
College Slice
Missed opportunity for Mr Smith - he totally could have made his announcement on twitter with the hash tag #dicksout

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
https://twitter.com/julesmorrow/status/1022293413264220161

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
So an explosion happened in Beijing and deaths and casualties are unknown and Sky News is interviewong Pauline Hanson about it and she keeps going on about dangerous times.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

Anidav posted:

So an explosion happened in Beijing and deaths and casualties are unknown and Sky News is interviewong Pauline Hanson about it and she keeps going on about dangerous times.

Is she back from Ireland?

Dude McAwesome
Sep 30, 2004

Still better than a Ponytar

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

Is she back from Ireland?

Being interviewed from the cruise ship buffet.

Don Dongington
Sep 27, 2005

#ideasboom
College Slice

Dude McAwesome posted:

Being interviewed from the cruise ship buffet.

I'll bet a lot of the food in there is Halal.

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Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

Is she back from Ireland?

Phone

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