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site posted:The amount of Spider-Man books coming out in October is insane. Like, more spidey u books than the the rest of whats being put out combined it feels like. The redesign of spiderlings costume on the spider-girls variant specifically so you can see the cleavage of a teenage girl is pretty gross too The variant by Amy Reeder, you mean? And it just looks like she's drawing it like it's made of fabric and not vacuum sealed on.
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Yeah i saw that amy did it after i posted which makes me even more like wha. I dunno maybe youre right and you can chalk it up to some perspective thing, it just looks different to me as opposed to this 
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Jul 24, 2018 23:15
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Thompson’s Jessica Jones is really good, and putting it out quickly is awesome. She does write Jessica maybe a *bit* too much like she wrote Kate, but that’s a minor complaint. Looking forward to more.
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Jul 24, 2018 23:25
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Open Marriage Night posted:So, they're just giving you all the best Spider-Men? Your two should team up because punk and giant robots actually go hand in hand. I think it's going to be really good, Sheldon and I are working on some neat stuff for it. I have one more Marvel gig in the pipe, but it hasn't been announced. It's been a busy summer.
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Jul 25, 2018 03:44
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Endless Mike posted:Thompson’s Jessica Jones is really good, and putting it out quickly is awesome. She does write Jessica maybe a *bit* too much like she wrote Kate, but that’s a minor complaint. Looking forward to more. The secret is that Jessica is actually very much like Kate in her goofy way. She's just a bit older ans the world decided to mess with her life quite a lot, so she thinks she has to be a grumpy alcoholic. My interpretation ist that Jessica sort of sees the similarities, which is why she can be a bit annoyed by Kate. But Kate sees her als one of her biggest heros and wants so much to be like her.  Come to think of it, I really like how Kate can keep dunking on Clint and see how he's sometimes a mess, even though he's her childhood hero, who inspired her path in life.
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Jul 25, 2018 06:02
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Roth posted:Oh, I didn't know Zdarsky's Spectacular Spider-Man run was ending. That's a bummer. Oh my god is Gurihiru finally getting a new series
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Jul 25, 2018 16:48
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X-23 continues to be good Always trademark your name  I don't think its really a spoiler at all but just in case 
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Jul 25, 2018 17:11
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Yeah that third panel was dope as hell.
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Jul 25, 2018 17:34
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UGH why do I have to work for so many more hours. I just wanna read the new issue of Honey Badger and her Sister.
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Jul 25, 2018 17:35
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X-23 #1 & 2 and Mr & Mrs X #1 are such great examples of comics with a clear goal and creative teams that are totally in sync and full of creative energy. So good.
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Jul 25, 2018 22:39
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So rip thanos i guess
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Jul 26, 2018 01:38
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Someone I trust opinions of told me to check out Donny Cates run of Venom of this morning knowing I don't like symbiotes or Venom in general outside of the Agent Venom/Spaceknight stuff. I figured it was only a few issues so why not. Welp. OK Cates. After the first couple issues I wasn't really feeling it but I got to today's issue and I'll begrudgingly admit that was a genius twist and has me interested in symbiotes now. Tying their origin in Gorr The God Butcher and the Necrosword is actually pretty drat cool. That's the whole reason he told me this morning because he knew how much I loved that Thor storyline. This is the most interesting symbiotes have ever been to me. Since I'm a notorious symbiote hater I'm going to assume most others will hate this turn of events.
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Jul 26, 2018 05:19
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Jul 26, 2018 07:43
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X-O posted:Someone I trust opinions of told me to check out Donny Cates run of Venom of this morning knowing I don't like symbiotes or Venom in general outside of the Agent Venom/Spaceknight stuff. I figured it was only a few issues so why not. Welp. OK Cates. After the first couple issues I wasn't really feeling it but I got to today's issue and I'll begrudgingly admit that was a genius twist and has me interested in symbiotes now. Tying their origin in Gorr The God Butcher and the Necrosword is actually pretty drat cool. That's the whole reason he told me this morning because he knew how much I loved that Thor storyline. Yeah, I was not expecting that to show up in Venom AT ALL! Loved it.
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Jul 26, 2018 07:53
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I'd love to see the room at the Marvel retreat when that idea came up.
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Jul 26, 2018 10:38
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Open Marriage Night posted:I'd love to see the room at the Marvel retreat when that idea came up. I just want to see them run with my idea if they ever do another Marvel/DC crossover. Where Saint Walker is just Gorr from a different universe if he went down a markedly different path.
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Jul 26, 2018 11:48
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Does that mean when Peter had the symbiote he was Parker, the Necro-Spider?
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Jul 26, 2018 12:25
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I groaned. Now when all black shows up in thor it cant just be a cool thing, its VENOM THOR or VENOM LOKI and just thats dumb as gently caress. Way to poo poo in aarons sandbox
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Jul 26, 2018 15:58
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site posted:I groaned. Now when all black shows up in thor it cant just be a cool thing, its VENOM THOR or VENOM LOKI and just thats dumb as gently caress. Way to poo poo in aarons sandbox You're making a pretty strong assumption that Aaron A, didn't know about this and B. isn't cool with it
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Jul 26, 2018 16:03
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So Spider-Man continues to not be terrible, but I'm hesitant to let myself enjoy it, or be anything but supremely guarded. I've been burned too many times.
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Jul 26, 2018 16:06
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Blockhouse posted:You're making a pretty strong assumption that Aaron A, didn't know about this and B. isn't cool with it Fair
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Jul 26, 2018 16:08
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I know that this is the grand tradition of the past 10-20 years of comics but considering they just made a big deal about how they're finally bringing back the Classic Eddie Brock/Venom pairing fans have been clamoring for, to almost immediately pivot into goofy Roy Thomas On Crank style "actually the symbiotes were made out of the shadow of a dark god and forged into mythic weapons in the skull of a Celestial and Grendel was actually a symbiote and Thor is Beowulf and there are symbiote dragons buried in the Earth used by the US military to fight in Vietnam" seems kind of at cross-purposes. I know a lot of people love this poo poo but maybe Venom could be a flawed human bonded with a weird alien thing trying to find justice in a world that doesn't understand him? I know comics are a medium of endless possibility and etc. etc. etc. and Big Ideas are cool but also mmmmmmaybe those big ideas don't have to be Venom But Thor or Batman But the Joker or Spider-Man But They're 400 Of Them or [character] But Old and so on and so forth? Also a few things I want to acknowledge: 1) I realize that a large part of this is how the modern American comics landscape works, that creators have little to no incentive to add a genuinely new idea into the ecosystems of either Big Two Universe if it's not inextricably tied to an existing property because they can just save that idea for an Image/Dark Horse/etc. book where they actually own the characters and get to control them and reap the rewards of creating a Hellboy or Invincible or whomever. 2) This is also NOT the same thing as complaining about "Wolverine But a Girl" or "Iron Man But Black" since those are stories about human beings and exploring how the symbolism of the characters mean and their roles in the world change with a new person holding a mantle in a way that when done well is still a human story with human stakes and drama and development in a way that 'actually there have been Hawkeyes throughout all history check out this one alternate universe Evil Cyborg Vampire Gambit But Hawkeye eight pager and then this double page spread of Spider-Ham Hawkeye and Old Man Matt Murdock Hawkeye and Cosmic Hawkeye getting eaten by Eagle-Eye, the eldtrich beast that eats the eyes of Hawks to get vision so good it can destroy the multiverse!' does not. Edge & Christian fucked around with this message at 16:39 on Jul 26, 2018 |
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Jul 26, 2018 16:31
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I guess my response would be - None of these changes make Venom not a flawed human bonded with a weird alien thing trying to find justice in a world that doesn't understand him - We had a pretty good year of solid if unremarkable Venom comics (I think the only really stand-out being the issue from the symbiote's point of view) before the big shake up. - "Venom but 400 of him" has been a part of the character since the 90's I'm essentially saying I don't see how any of that's a problem.
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Jul 26, 2018 17:11
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It's less a problem and more of a story I don't have any interest in? Which in this particular case of Venom is a non-unique disadvantage because I've never cared that much about Venom outside of a few stories/runs, but catching up on Venom this week in the face of releases and solicitations and announcements about Spider-Geddon, Infinity Warps, Old Man/Lady _____________, Three Jokers, Dank Multiverses, Extermination, Avengers 1,000,000 BC, Batman Who Laughs, even more What Ifs, etc. etc. etc. has me exhausted. It's true that this doesn't change the core concept of Venom any more than my Hawkeyes vs. Eagleeyes thing doesn't change the core concept of Hawkeye being a guy with a bow and arrow, but it really gilds the lily and signals that for the foreseeable future we're going to get a bunch of stories about Symbiote Dragons and Creepy Mind Controlled Toxin and Operation Desert Venom and Symbiote Thor and Symbiote Miles Morales (which to be fair they've been leaning on for years, yes) and that does not excite me at all.
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Jul 26, 2018 17:55
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I mean I get it's not your thing just like the years of status quo for symbiotes wasn't mine. I'm glad they're doing something different and trying to expand it for people like me that didn't care for it the way it was. That's what comics should do. Bendis tried to do something similar with the Klyntar/Spaceknight stuff which I also enjoyed but most people seemed to hate as well. Well they didn't wait long after he left to turn that completely on its ear with this stuff. And as someone that did like the Bendis twist on it I think this is even better. Comics are a cycle of trying new things and falling back when they fizzle or don't work out. That's just what they'll always be. I like that cycle personally because I can read a year of two of interesting stories with characters I didn't care for much before while they're doing something different with them. And sometime soon the fans of the classic versions will get their version back for a while.
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Jul 26, 2018 18:21
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Now Im wondering what the really really REALLY real origin of the symbiotes will be in 3 years
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Jul 26, 2018 18:26
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site posted:Now Im wondering what the really really REALLY real origin of the symbiotes will be in 3 years Spawn
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Jul 26, 2018 18:40
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The symbiotes came from you, the fans, in all of your hearts.
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Jul 26, 2018 18:59
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X-O posted:Comics are a cycle of trying new things and falling back when they fizzle or don't work out. That's just what they'll always be. I like that cycle personally because I can read a year of two of interesting stories with characters I didn't care for much before while they're doing something different with them. And sometime soon the fans of the classic versions will get their version back for a while. This particular type of revamp always seems more interested in WORLDBUILDING (Vietnam Venom! Beowulf! Dead Celestials! A STORY SPANNING MILLENIA!) as opposed to, you know, anything particularly interesting for the characters. This seems kind of like Donny Cates's MO, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
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Jul 26, 2018 21:09
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I'm just waiting to see what Gavok thinks.
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Jul 26, 2018 21:29
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Edge & Christian posted:i'm not trying to be precious about Venom or any other character, the only sustained interest I've had in Venom was during the Rick Remender era Flash Thompson Agent Venom which was absolutely a big departure for the character, but it was also a pretty character-based story about Flash Thompson and dependence and heroism and etc. I'm mostly shocked by the implication that Marvel didn't already have a Beowulf.
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Archyduke posted:I'm mostly shocked by the implication that Marvel didn't already have a Beowulf. They did! Not to mention the previous implications that immortal characters like Gilgamesh and Ulysses Bloodstone were the source of the Beowulf myth and I feel like some sort of alien from the 1990s (maybe in Clan Destine?) was supposed to be Really Beowulf. Also DC full on had a Beowulf comic during the DC Explosion/Implosion.
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Jul 26, 2018 22:30
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To be fair I don’t think many writers are gonna use that Venom twist. It will be swept aside in like three months tops Which is good because it’s insanely dumb.
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Jul 26, 2018 23:33
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as comics should be.
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Jul 26, 2018 23:46
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Teenage Fansub posted:as comics should be. Comics disregarding everything stupid every three months would be interesting I will give you that.
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Jul 27, 2018 00:00
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i meant the insanely dumb part 
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Jul 27, 2018 00:02
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Ah nah that’s really boring.
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Jul 27, 2018 00:06
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much like your posting
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Jul 27, 2018 00:07
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I'm also with comics ignoring whatever backstory doesn't work for them.
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i mean between this, cosmic ghost rider, and thanos i could see cates making a niche for himself just writing cool but ridiculous plots that get retconned immediately
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