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Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!
The slur comes from the syllable; Korea is “Daehan Mingook” in Korean and so the last part became the slur. I think it’s a cognate with the Chinese 國 but I’m not a linguist.

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Accretionist
Nov 7, 2012
I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES

Looks like it.

I just googled it but it looks like the Korean is 외국 for outland and 외국인 for outlander. Common anglo spellings are oegug-in, waeguk-in, waygook-in. Foreigners tend to drop the, "in," and just use 외국 for, "foreigner."

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

Porpoise noise continues.

That's so weird-looking! Never seen that before.

E: I am BY NO MEANS fluent in Korean.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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bring back old gbs posted:

u had to click a single link, then a play button :smith:

https://twitter.com/rebeccaludavis/status/1022413181816209408

its plainclothes officers claiming to be her family hauling her off then the uniformed police show up and tell everybody to move along

storm zhongnanhai, take the ccp prisoner, hang xi from a lamppost, send the rest to the hague, full democracy now

mrbotus
Apr 7, 2009

Patron of the Pants

Fojar38 posted:

storm zhongnanhai, take the ccp prisoner, hang xi from a lamppost, send the rest to the hague, full democracy now

Excuse me, but this is an internal matter, you don't understand China, and furthermore did you know America did a bad thing once? Anyways, China doesn't need democracy the CCP is doing just fine, and also China might have problems but it's getting better. You should come to China and see for yourself before passing judgment. Surely a look at our skyscrapers and a tasty lunch of dumplings and white rice will change your mind about things that have objectively happened. When China is the ruler of the world in 2020 I mean 2030 I mean 8888 you'll be sorry then.

Devils Affricate posted:

Sure, as long as they also thrown in a Tienanmen Square Day

Unironically agree. Do they not already have one? Lol who am I kidding.

underage at the vape shop
May 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747
very fitting that this happens right after that person asks why noone questions the xinjiang situation.

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

Accretionist posted:

I just googled it but it looks like the Korean is 외국 for outland and 외국인 for outlander.
Wealth beyond measure.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Pro PRC Laowai posted:

Europeans always tell me racism is an American problem.

As a European who the hell are you talking to and what alternative universe are they in without the FN or AfD or UKIP because I want to move to that one.

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!

feedmegin posted:

As a European who the hell are you talking to and what alternative universe are they in without the FN or AfD or UKIP because I want to move to that one.

"racism is america's problem" actually means that racism is america's problem to solve, because everyone else tried and they failed miserably so now they just act like it's someone else's responsibility

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
America: we solved racism *oops* wait hold on I’m being told the opposite is true

mrbotus
Apr 7, 2009

Patron of the Pants
It's an American problem in the sense that we're the only ones who seem to have a culture of anti racism and complaining about racism.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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it's american exceptionalism, most people just don't seem to realize that works both ways in that both "city on a hill" rhetoric and "america is literally the worst thing to happen to the world ever" are both examples of it

and american culture and ideology is so prevalent in the world of the 21st century that other countries have adopted the notion as well, usually for the purposes of deflection

Mistle
Oct 11, 2005

Eckot's comic relief cousin from out of town
Grimey Drawer

Fojar38 posted:

it's american exceptionalism, most people just don't seem to realize that works both ways in that both "city on a hill" rhetoric and "america is literally the worst thing to happen to the world ever" are both examples of it

and american culture and ideology is so prevalent in the world of the 21st century that other countries have adopted the notion as well, usually for the purposes of deflection

America: the only place that is both the best and worst place at the same time. Taking the exceptional version of exceptionalism TO THE EXTREME! :911::krad::patriot:

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
America is not the worst thing to ever happen to the world over the past several fifty thousand years, but goddamn it's getting up there.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!

Taintrunner posted:

America is not the worst thing to ever happen to the world over the past several fifty thousand years, but goddamn it's getting up there.

it's not even in the top 50 percentile in the last 75 seconds

if you think otherwise you really need to travel more

Ccs
Feb 25, 2011


America has a lot of bad and I'm glad I don't live there anymore but man is it better than a lot of places.

Places I would like to live, in descending order:
Norway
Canada
USA

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

Ccs posted:

America has a lot of bad and I'm glad I don't live there anymore but man is it better than a lot of places.

Places I would like to live, in descending order:
Norway
Canada
USA

It is not whether a nation-state has committed immoral or otherwise evil acts, it is whether that nation has a system with processes that allow its citizens to identify mistakes in policy implementation and rectify those mistakes through an open and fair process. I would dare say that America has the most open, fair, and free processes in the world, which do unfortunately does make our nation a target for authoritarian meddling. Unlike the Aussies, whose temperance of spirits and politics of moderation appears to have allowed the communist chinese to infiltrate the highest levels of policy development, the rugged individualism of Americans allows us to isolate the communists in our midst.

China can trace its history back only 5,000 years. I guess the oldest culture they say is Egypt at 8,000. Egypt is older than China. China has had 5,000 years of black hair, yellow skin, bad emperors, and red envelopes. Some dragon.

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

My Imaginary GF posted:

It is not whether a nation-state has committed immoral or otherwise evil acts, it is whether that nation has a system with processes that allow its citizens to identify mistakes in policy implementation and rectify those mistakes through an open and fair process. I would dare say that America has the most open, fair, and free processes in the world, which do unfortunately does make our nation a target for authoritarian meddling. Unlike the Aussies, whose temperance of spirits and politics of moderation appears to have allowed the communist chinese to infiltrate the highest levels of policy development, the rugged individualism of Americans allows us to isolate the communists in our midst.

China can trace its history back only 5,000 years. I guess the oldest culture they say is Egypt at 8,000. Egypt is older than China. China has had 5,000 years of black hair, yellow skin, bad emperors, and red envelopes. Some dragon.

:eyepop:

WatermelonGun
May 7, 2009
holy poo poo gas this loving thread

underage at the vape shop
May 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747
yeah the most open fair process in the world


My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

Do they block the Trump/Xi interaction in China?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0fABpNxLLc

underage at the vape shop posted:

yeah the most open fair process in the world


Exactly! IL-4 was drawn to ensure hispanic representation in the Illinois Congressional delegation. Unfair would be drawing IL-4 stretching down to Cairo while having it lean 53/47 R rather than 86/14 D.

My Imaginary GF fucked around with this message at 03:03 on Jul 27, 2018

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!
Forget it Jake people, it’s Chinatown MIGF.

The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
once D&D leaked in, this thread was finished

Pro PRC Laowai
Jun 14, 2018

WatermelonGun posted:

holy poo poo gas this loving thread

Cry Havoc
May 10, 2004

This cyberpunk cartoon avatar is pretty dang ol' good, I tell you what.

Ccs posted:

America has a lot of bad and I'm glad I don't live there anymore but man is it better than a lot of places.

Places I would like to live, in descending order:
Norway
Canada
USA

should be a bunch more after canada tbh

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

You had a good run, guys.

Accretionist
Nov 7, 2012
I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES
This thread should get back to its roots: Me posting photos of China because I'm too poor to travel.

edit:

HONG KONG, CHINA:

Accretionist fucked around with this message at 04:39 on Jul 27, 2018

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

A most notable
coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.


https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4
Thread pull up!!

EasternBronze
Jul 19, 2011

I registered for the Selective Service! I'm also racist as fuck!
:downsbravo:
Don't forget to ignore me!
Pretty sad to see Xi Jinping making such racist comments about the Chinese.

Imperialist Dog
Oct 21, 2008

"I think you could better spend your time on finishing your editing before the deadline today."
\
:backtowork:

This is from Reddit right? I can't tell anymore.

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

The White Dragon posted:

"racism is america's problem" actually means that racism is america's problem to solve, because everyone else tried and they failed miserably so now they just act like it's someone else's responsibility

It isn't really this but it is seen this way because America's racism is not only so drat visible you could build a wall with it but it is constantly back sliding like equality is some sort of zero sum game. LGQBT or Racism? pick one. Some of the problems have pretty easy (political will not included) but lengthy fixes in a world that wants a sliver bullet. Then it has 50% of country embracing racism and still have slaves by another name.

feedmegin posted:

As a European who the hell are you talking to and what alternative universe are they in without the FN or AfD or UKIP because I want to move to that one.

Yeah they are gross, however the vast majority of the public are repulsed by them. Yes it is disappointing they have enough supporters to get a toe in but it is also a sign you have a functioning political system doing exactly what it is meant to do by opening up representation to smaller groups that also aren't FN or AfD or UKIP.

But Brexit :downsowned:

China: Ethnic and cultural cleansing.

LimburgLimbo
Feb 10, 2008

World War Mammories posted:

"gook" is a common korean syllable, right, no connection to the slur? serious question

As others have mentioned gook/guk etc depending on romanization method just means “country”. Not “person” by the way, though some people mistake that. Waygook (or again the several other different romanizations representing the same thing in Korean means “outside country person”. It’s the same in all major East Asian languages, but Korean tends to drop the “person” (人) when speaking casually, while Japanese drops the “country” (国)

Korean - 外國人 외국인 Oe gug in/way gook in
Mandarin - 外國人 wai guo ren
Japanese - 外国人 がいこくじん gai koku jin

There’s a theory that the slang “gook” came about during the Korean War when GIs would hear the Koreans saying “migook” (American) a lot, and thought it sounded like “Me Gook”. But there’s not confirmed etymology that I know of.

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!

Grape posted:

D&D threads vary in quality real widely.

From 'Ye gods :stare:' to 'These people vote. :stonk:', specifically.

At first I thought they were being that way ironically, then Poe and Sokal beat me over the head with their tombstones.

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

So long, and thanks for all the fish gallbladdΣrs!


Accretionist posted:

This thread should get back to its roots: Me posting photos of China because I'm too poor to travel.

edit:

HONG KONG, CHINA:


Hong Kong Is Not China tyvm

Grevling
Dec 18, 2016

Coolguye posted:

basically all of europe is being pretty much exactly as awful to ethnic and religious minorities now as the USA was in the run-up to the civil war, short of the actual literal owning of people. freed blacks had a really loving bleak social and economic outlook, and so do muslims immigrating to most of europe fleeing war zones and literal death.

france in particular is loving galaxy brain level racism, they otherize outside influences institutionally in their loving government linguistics department, in addition to the standard battery of horrifying xenophobia that is fairly standard throughout western europe that makes anyone without full naturalization a second class citizen and third choice for any job, especially menial jobs that immigrants usually end up taking

the italian political machine actively suppresses a majority of all votes by treating women as property and using intimidation tactics on any political outsider

spain is so hosed they're barely holding off a popular groundswell to have a regional succession crisis ala the American Civil War, only 150 years later

russia is...russia, that country is literally drinking itself to death because it is so incredibly depressing and pointless to live under the dystopia that has taken root there and it's still verboten to criticize them unless they are actively invading crimea (and even then you'll get some pushback)

israel is definitely on the road to a cultural genocide at this point and it's not ok to say that maybe they can cool it with settlement building in disputed areas to avoid making that situation worse

none of this will ever make the news for more than a day, whataboutism is so ingrained in national discourse that everyone except the fashionable targets are immune to criticism because everyone sucks. the fashionable targets now are the USA and the UK.

no place is good. every place sucks. the question is what kind of suck are we dealing with and how much that suck offends you. it'd be great if we could introduce that context when people are talking about cultures they have no concept of or contact with but even the wokest nerds will revert back to grade school napoleon complexes about this stuff.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

quote:

they otherize outside influences institutionally in their loving government linguistics department
Are you talking about their making up new words? I guess Iceland is the most racist country on earth then. A scorching hot take and I'm planning to install it in my sauna.

Osama Dozen-Dongs
Nov 29, 2014
Bhutan is the most racist country because it's explicitly organized to benefit the Bhutanese.

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

They're also the most happy nation, so I guess racism works.

Osama Dozen-Dongs
Nov 29, 2014
They're happy because there aren't any foreigns :ssh:

Bajaj
Sep 13, 2017

by FactsAreUseless
If she's not Russian, this is every single white girl in China on a dating app. Fleta knew what she was talking about.

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underage at the vape shop
May 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747

Bajaj posted:

If she's not Russian, this is every single white girl in China on a dating app. Fleta knew what she was talking about.



nah she managed words its gotta be 🇺🇸 -> 🇨🇳 for the true experience

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