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Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


a contest of ideologies where the socialist is actually the best guy gameplay wise rules.

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Jeza
Feb 13, 2011

The cries of the dead are terrible indeed; you should try not to hear them.

Harrow posted:

10 and 10-2 have very good combat, probably my favorite two combat systems in the series

*submerged in a tank of raw sewage, a poo poo slimed figure bursts through the thick brown skein clutching a fat log*

now THIS is my favourite turd!!

Oscar Wild
Apr 11, 2006

It's good to be a G
Crossposting!

https://twitter.com/AkinOlokun/status/1021017064448770049?s=19

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.

Since the average age is 35 for a game player, I always wonder if at some point games began appealing to adults, or if the kids who grew up playing them just got older and never stopped playing.

Fried Watermelon
Dec 29, 2008



I'd be worried about that guy cheating on me too!

BioMe
Aug 9, 2012


A. Beaverhausen posted:

Final Fantasy VIII :smug:

Also the perfect thread to say it's my favorite

It's really good if you don't take it too seriously (don't take a final fantasy game seriously you dork) and just appreciate a fun scifi/fantasy game that knows how to have a blast with its set-pieces

None of them have good gameplay though

olives black
Nov 24, 2017


LENIN.
STILL.
WON'T.
FUCK.
ME.
There might be good JRPGs other than Anachronox, but you don't really need to play them after having played Anachronox

olives black
Nov 24, 2017


LENIN.
STILL.
WON'T.
FUCK.
ME.

olives black posted:

There might be good JRPGs other than Anachronox, but you don't really need to play them after having played Anachronox

except for maybe Earthbound, but I'm basing that entirely on Let's Play/retrospective videos that I've seen of it

Twelve Batmans
Dec 24, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
The good JRPGs are

Breath of Fire IV
Suikoden II
FFIX
Mother 3

olives black
Nov 24, 2017


LENIN.
STILL.
WON'T.
FUCK.
ME.

Twelve Batmans posted:

The good JRPGs are

Anachronox
Earthbound
some other bullshit maybe

constantly cleaning up everyone's mess in this thread

olives black
Nov 24, 2017


LENIN.
STILL.
WON'T.
FUCK.
ME.
actually gently caress is Undertale technically a JRPG? whatever throw that on there too

Sardonik
Jul 1, 2005

if you like my dumb posts, you'll love my dumb youtube channel

steinrokkan posted:

The narrative in Alpha Centauri owned, and so did the way it was presented.

The wonder cutscenes owned so much. It's amazing how much they did with stock footage and some average CG.

Hell even the intro owned hard. I'd love to see a version updated for present day, even if it would be mostly pictures of trump.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=035cpHEowS4

Tokit
Dec 16, 2004

I was doing the composing.

Orkin Mang posted:

alex had some nice pussy in the Secret level, if u ram double jump into the striders egg sack & press ur cock into ur gruesome mattress

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJnFSsPyTM0

christmas boots
Oct 15, 2012

To these sing-alongs 🎤of siren 🧜🏻‍♀️songs
To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
Biscuit Hider

https://twitter.com/knd775/status/1022113004320681984?s=20

The plot thickens

Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013

1redflag posted:

Look at this idiot who forgot about great games like:

Jet Force Gemini
Aero Fighters Assault
Mischief Makers
Mario Kart 64
Banjo Kazooie
Diddy Kong Racing
Mystical Ninja

I'm sure there are more, and while I admit the grwaphics don't hold up on most of these games, they were nonetheless really fun to play at the time.

I'll admit a few of those are okay, but Banjo Kazooie is a crappy collectathon and Mischief Makers is just kind of an awkward platformer...

Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"
The gameplay of alpha centauri was trash and the narrative elements were overrated. Civ4 was a considerably better game.

Name Change
Oct 9, 2005


Panzeh posted:

The gameplay of alpha centauri was trash and the narrative elements were overrated. Civ4 was a considerably better game.

Yeah but I could be a space collectivist

Zane
Nov 14, 2007

basic hitler posted:

a contest of ideologies where the socialist is actually the best guy gameplay wise rules.
hmm, the amoral and crazy cyber-maoist who has seemingly liquidated all individual human distinctions? not the best face for socialism.

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


Zane posted:

hmm, the amoral and crazy cyber-maoist who has seemingly liquidated all individual human distinctions? not the best face for socialism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO_xh7xIabk

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


Zane posted:

hmm, the amoral and crazy cyber-maoist who has seemingly liquidated all individual human distinctions? not the best face for socialism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJlPr2KHSFo

Zane
Nov 14, 2007
lol this is not a nice vision of the future!

smac doesn't actually give you enough information to really construct a sense of how these societies work. but here's a yang quote from genejack factory:

yang posted:

My gift to industry is the genetically engineered worker, or Genejack. Specially designed for labor, the Genejack's muscles and nerves are ideal for his task, and the cerebral cortex has been atrophied so that he can desire nothing except to perform his duties. Tyranny, you say? How can you tyrannize someone who cannot feel pain?
this isn't the utopia marx dreamed of! and if it was i don't think it's v. good.

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

punk rebel ecks posted:

Since the average age is 35 for a game player, I always wonder if at some point games began appealing to adults, or if the kids who grew up playing them just got older and never stopped playing.
in the '90s video games were considered to be a kids' thing and were marketed as such. i guess as that generation grew up, the marketing did too

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


the genejack is straight out brave new world which i maintain is a true utopia

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



Twelve Batmans posted:

The good JRPGs are


That was a trick question - there are no good JRPGs.

Sic Semper Goon
Mar 1, 2015

Eu tu?

:zaurg:

Switchblade Switcharoo

Zane posted:

hmm, the amoral and crazy cyber-maoist who has seemingly liquidated all individual human distinctions? not the best face for socialism.

Sounds pretty accurate. :shrug:

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

Panzeh posted:

The gameplay of alpha centauri was trash and the narrative elements were overrated. Civ4 was a considerably better game.

Civ 4 wasn't all that great.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

basic hitler posted:

the genejack is straight out brave new world which i maintain is a true utopia

Brave New World is a society where everyone is given deliberate fetal alcohol syndrome and people are still depressed sad sacks on brain pills.

Colonel Cancer
Sep 26, 2015

Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon

steinrokkan posted:

Brave New World is a society where everyone is given deliberate fetal alcohol syndrome and people are still depressed sad sacks on brain pills.

Nah. Only the protagonist is depressed and only because he is a freak and an accident. Which brings us to the moral of the story: individuality is harmful.

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


Colonel Cancer posted:

Nah. Only the protagonist is depressed and only because he is a freak and an accident. Which brings us to the moral of the story: individuality is harmful.

With society more or less figured out, happy, and stable yeah individuality is at best pesky

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

The Witcher 1 and 2 are both trash games that creepy weirdo nerds love to fellate for the dumbest reasons

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



Panzeh posted:

The gameplay of alpha centauri was trash and the narrative elements were overrated. Civ4 was a considerably better game.

:wrong:

Zane posted:

this isn't the utopia marx dreamed of! and if it was i don't think it's v. good.

Well yeah, Chairman Yang is a totalitarian space fascist. Marx aligns far better with the Free Drones in the expansion: http://civilization.wikia.com/wiki/Free_Drones_(SMAC)

Jeza
Feb 13, 2011

The cries of the dead are terrible indeed; you should try not to hear them.

QuarkJets posted:

The Witcher 1 and 2 are both trash games that creepy weirdo nerds love to fellate for the dumbest reasons

Certainly in the Witcher 2, it's the well written narrative and meaningful choices that I hate the most.

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Yang is the personification of Chinese Legalism, he really has nothing to do with marxism or marxist thought

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Jeza posted:

Certainly in the Witcher 2, it's the well written narrative and meaningful choices that I hate the most.

the story was alright, so long as you're okay with poor pacing and the final act being a big wet fart featuring an infodump; it was certainly better than most video games'

but the fact that there are two Act 2s and you only play one of them creates a situation where a shitload of plot just gets lost; this is "meaningful" in the sense that you're choosing which of 2 stories you get to experience, but it's a really bad idea from a narrative perspective because you wind up hiding important plot elements from the player and then you either need to force them to replay that act from the other side or you need to drop in a summary of what was missed. CD Projekt Red realized their mistake and didn't repeat it when developing Witcher 3.

and while a decent story is nice to have what really matters in a video game is gameplay which is just garbage in witcher 2

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
It actually owns that the game deliberately forces you to make decisions under pressure with incomplete information. Also the consequences come from these uncertain decisions, not just which side you pick.

It's a daring design choice, and more games should do something similar instead of giving you the usual option to deliberate with every party at your own leaisure.

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

steinrokkan posted:

It actually owns that the game deliberately forces you to make decisions under pressure with incomplete information. Also the consequences come from these uncertain decisions, not just which side you pick.

It's a daring design choice, and more games should do something similar instead of giving you an option to deliberate with every party at your own leaisure.

you can create those situations and have those choices be meaningful without resulting in a completely divergent second act. Forcing the player to outright drop a bunch of major plot threads is ballsy but ultimately a bad idea, because the narrative suffers for it

like the witcher 3 provides important, meaningful choices in high-pressure situations yet manages to not have two exclusive acts, why would you think that this is necessary?

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
The thing W2 does that W3 doesn't is that it gives you different perspectives that can color your decisions. W3 generally doesn't do that, which isn't bad, but it's a much less radical approach than W2 had.

Verisimilidude
Dec 20, 2006

Strike quick and hurry at him,
not caring to hit or miss.
So that you dishonor him before the judges




I mean you don't have to go deep into that guy's twitter to realize he's a shitbag with an agenda

https://twitter.com/AkinOlokun/status/1020201504001495041

https://twitter.com/AkinOlokun/status/1020762390525198336

https://twitter.com/AkinOlokun/status/988876052289110017

Zane
Nov 14, 2007

QuarkJets posted:

Yang is the personification of Chinese Legalism, he really has nothing to do with marxism or marxist thought
it's the same way that mao had no real understanding of marxism and combined a superficial reading of it with a bunch of neo-confucian aphorisms into his red book. yang adds a sort of hyper-materialism into the mix in which the biological stuff of human beings can be physically reduced to nerve signals and chemical processes to be freely manipulated in the interest of greater social efficiency.

Zane fucked around with this message at 18:27 on Jul 27, 2018

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punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.

QuarkJets posted:

the story was alright, so long as you're okay with poor pacing and the final act being a big wet fart featuring an infodump; it was certainly better than most video games'

but the fact that there are two Act 2s and you only play one of them creates a situation where a shitload of plot just gets lost; this is "meaningful" in the sense that you're choosing which of 2 stories you get to experience, but it's a really bad idea from a narrative perspective because you wind up hiding important plot elements from the player and then you either need to force them to replay that act from the other side or you need to drop in a summary of what was missed. CD Projekt Red realized their mistake and didn't repeat it when developing Witcher 3.

and while a decent story is nice to have what really matters in a video game is gameplay which is just garbage in witcher 2

I too dislike it when role playing games are strong in role playing.

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