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Is the whole "democratisation of the Force" thing supposed to mean that anyone can learn to use it? I'm not sure what the position is about the whole "you have to be Force-sensitive and not everybody is, so not everyone can use the Force" angle now because I think that was mostly in the old EU. Or is it like Donnie Yen where it's not clear if he has the ability to "use" the Force the way the Jedi do, but he trusts the Force and it uses him? Like, are there still Force muggles?
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I would pay good money to see the Franco Prussian war retold with blasters and hyperspace.
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Harime Nui posted:I would pay the big bucks to see a Hutt "defense fleet" consisting of the galactic equivalent of technicals (.50 cal guns mounted on Ford trucks), suicide torpedo-ships, and stripped-down frigates intended only to ram and board VS the actual military forces. Technicals are toyotas ignorant binch
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Jul 28, 2018 14:56
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Wheat Loaf posted:Is the whole "democratisation of the Force" thing supposed to mean that anyone can learn to use it? I'm not sure what the position is about the whole "you have to be Force-sensitive and not everybody is, so not everyone can use the Force" angle now because I think that was mostly in the old EU. Wasn't that always vague, I mean the Yuuz had this whole thing of committing genocide to rid the galaxy of its psychic presence before their god or some such but that's legends and it double doesn't count now. Although, its often shown that the difference between a force user and just a person being really good at something (like piloting) has been that the force use intentionally draws on the force for strength. We see this repeated in how Yoda trains Luke in ESB.
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Jul 28, 2018 14:57
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Kylo Ren is the Martin Luther to Vader’s Jan Hus. He was even burned at the stake like Jan Hus was too! Rey is John Calvin aka the guy who doesn’t quite get it. Chewie is Philip Melanchthon.
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Jul 28, 2018 14:57
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There was even an Anabaptist named Anneken Hendricks who was killed by fire for her apostasy. Sounds familiar.
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Jul 28, 2018 15:09
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Bongo Bill posted:I just wanted to post about Star Wars. Things were going so well. Why is this happening? This may be the best this thread has ever been lol
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Jul 28, 2018 15:18
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The 1978 super robot anime Daitarn 3 has an episode where an evil film director decides to kill the hero of that show by tricking him into starring in a snuff film remake of Star Wars. James Dean is also involved in the fictional remake somehow, for some reason. My question is this: How do we make this hypothetical remake a reality?
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Jul 28, 2018 15:25
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You need a CGI version of James Dean, for starters.
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Jul 28, 2018 15:27
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I'm pretty sure Tatooine got renamed to Jakku after it was found out that planet namesake Derge Tatooine was a racist who owned slaves and was alleged of sexual misconduct by numerous Trandoshan women on Canto Bight.
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Jul 28, 2018 15:33
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My favourite thing about this latest thread argument is that "Tatooine is Jakku" is possibly the most straightforward and easy to understand thing that SMG has ever posted.
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Jul 28, 2018 16:51
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And if you look carefully, you can see the jokes and sarcasm fly high over everyone's heads It's pretty impressive, all things considered I notice we also have yet another brunette woman on the cast, so I see Disney's still pushing that particular angle Expect lots of focus for her
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Jul 28, 2018 17:21
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cargohills posted:My favourite thing about this latest thread argument is that "Tatooine is Jakku" is possibly the most straightforward and easy to understand thing that SMG has ever posted. ....except he's arguing not that the planets share thematic connections, but that Jakku is literally the planet Tatooine that has been renamed. That's not "straightforward and easy to understand". That's literally a substanceless lie.
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Jul 28, 2018 17:40
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jivjov posted:....except he's arguing not that the planets share thematic connections, but that Jakku is literally the planet Tatooine that has been renamed. That's not "straightforward and easy to understand". That's literally a substanceless lie. But Tatooine and Jakku don't exist, they're just thematic ideas that serve the exact same narrative purpose. They're literally the same place - it's kinda weird that you can't understand this.
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Jul 28, 2018 18:49
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soulfulspinster posted:I would pay good money to see the Franco Prussian war retold with blasters and hyperspace. My friend, have you not seen Legend of the Galactic Heroes?
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Jul 28, 2018 19:10
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Why do we still need Maz Kanata at this point. Why do we need Lando. I thought we had cleared the path for the main characters to have their own movie. Poor Carrie is going to round out the trilogy wearing that gas station attendant outfit
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Jul 28, 2018 19:13
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glad she is dead posted:But Tatooine and Jakku don't exist, they're just thematic ideas that serve the exact same narrative purpose. They're literally the same place - it's kinda weird that you can't understand this. In the context of the Star Wars universe, they exist as separate planets. Yes, it's a fictional universe, but nowhere in the fictional universe is it ever established that the planet Tatooine is renamed to Jakku.
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Jul 28, 2018 19:15
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jivjov posted:In the context of the Star Wars universe, they exist as separate planets. Yes, it's a fictional universe, but nowhere in the fictional universe is it ever established that the planet Tatooine is renamed to Jakku. There is no Star Wars Universe.
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Jul 28, 2018 20:00
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:There is no Star Wars Universe. Then in what setting do the Star Wars films, novels, and comics take place? Why is there a Story Group? Why have sequels? There clearly is a consistent universe all those stories take place in.
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Jul 28, 2018 20:01
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jivjov posted:Then in what setting do the Star Wars films, novels, and comics take place? Why is there a Story Group? Why have sequels? There clearly is a consistent universe all those stories take place in. The design of many (but not all) Star Wars-branded works are coordinated with an aim of creating an illusion of such a place.
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Jul 28, 2018 20:05
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Maz and Obi-Wan are both guides who call the protagonist to action. They are literally the same character.
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Jul 28, 2018 20:07
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The real reason that Jakku and Tatooine are different planets is because scenes taking place there were filmed in different locations. However, those different locations are on the same planet. Hm.
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Jul 28, 2018 20:09
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jivjov posted:Then in what setting do the Star Wars films, novels, and comics take place? An entirely fictional one. Explaining how two functionally identical made up settings are technically different is irrelevant next to why they're actually different.
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Jul 28, 2018 20:15
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jivjov posted:Then in what setting do the Star Wars films, novels, and comics take place? Why is there a Story Group? Why have sequels? There clearly is a consistent universe all those stories take place in. What setting do Heir to the Empire, the Yuuzhan Vong poo poo, etc. take place in
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Jul 28, 2018 20:26
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PostNouveau posted:Maz and Obi-Wan are both guides who call the protagonist to action. They are literally the same character. No. There are significant differences. Maz believes wholeheartedly in the Holy Spirit, and tries to utilise it to spur a troubled child into action, while Obi-Wan instead chooses to become the Holy Spirit to do the same. They are Practice vs. Preach.
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Jul 28, 2018 20:44
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Pablo Nergigante posted:What setting do Heir to the Empire, the Yuuzhan Vong poo poo, etc. take place in The Star Wars Universe (Legends Continuity), why?
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Jul 28, 2018 20:51
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sassassin posted:No. There are significant differences. Maz believes wholeheartedly in the Holy Spirit, and tries to utilise it to spur a troubled child into action, while Obi-Wan instead chooses to become the Holy Spirit to do the same. Whootpy doo. There's like towns and agriculture on Tattooine and none on Jakku, but we all know those are the literally the same.
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Jul 28, 2018 20:53
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jivjov posted:The Star Wars Universe (Legends Continuity), why? This is why people think you’re a gimmick. You’re acting willfully dense towards these things. Have some self awareness.
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Jul 28, 2018 20:54
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CelticPredator posted:This is why people think you’re a gimmick. You’re acting willfully dense towards these things. Have some self awareness. Is self awareness canon?
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AndyElusive posted:Is self awareness canon? Episode 8 definitively makes fourth wall jokes canonical to (main line) Star Wars.
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Jul 28, 2018 21:07
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AndyElusive posted:Is self awareness canon? The ability to post does not make one self aware.
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Ok, so let’s change the topic from Jakku/Tatooine to another mystery: what was the location of the New Jedi temple/training camp where Luke plotted to murder his nephew? The films provide several clues, centered around the mysterious robot R2-D2. The last time we see Luke and R2 together is when the temple burnt down. R2 then ended up in storage in the Resistance base, playing dead, with a map in his memory. That map very clearly has a chunk ripped out of it, like with Kamino in Episode 2. Who tore up the map? Obviously it was R2, helping Luke to stay hidden. So it’s rather clear that Luke jumped into an old x-wing by himself, leaving R2 behind. Leia came to check on Luke and found the ‘comatose’ R2 in the temple wreckage. Fast forward a few decades and the Luke-worshipping cult finds the missing chunk of the map. R2 didn’t delete it; he cut-and-pasted it onto a USB key, and left it behind. So, yes, you guessed it: Luke built his temple on Jakku - AKA Tatooine. Max Von Sydow and his group were there to do an excavation, digging up the temple remains buried in the sand. Now, you may object that Luke’s temple was in a grassy area - but Canto Bight shows that, if you have the money, you can get the water to grow grass in the desert. Mystery solved! SuperMechagodzilla fucked around with this message at 21:26 on Jul 28, 2018 |
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jivjov posted:In the context of the Star Wars universe, they exist as separate planets. Yes, it's a fictional universe, but nowhere in the fictional universe is it ever established that the planet Tatooine is renamed to Jakku. Dozens of very creative people worked on these films. If Jakku is a different place, why does it look so much like Tatooine?
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Jul 28, 2018 21:35
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It was a very calculated decision to make Jakku similar to Tatooine. Same deal with Takodana evoking The Moon of Endor and Starkiller Base being a snow covered planet like Hoth. There's literally nothing to argue, they're planets that were created to remind watchers of those three specific biomes and fictional locations in the Star Wars universe.
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Jul 28, 2018 21:41
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It's like poetry; it rhymes.
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Jul 28, 2018 21:42
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Bongo Bill posted:It's like poetry; it rhymes. 
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Jul 28, 2018 21:47
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Ok, so let’s change the topic from Jakku/Tatooine to another mystery: what was the location of the New Jedi temple/training camp where Luke plotted to murder his nephew? I dunno about the excavation idea, but I can dig it. (No pun intended).
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Jul 28, 2018 21:49
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Hodgepodge posted:I dunno about the excavation idea, but I can dig it. How dare you post something like that without intending a pun. Own your puns. Take pride in them.
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Jul 28, 2018 21:50
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Also, here is the soundtrack to the last few dozen pages of the thread.
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Didn’t the training centers buildings evoke the first Temple village ?
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