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Cuckold has always had a lot of racist implications. Edgelord 4chan dudes are the only ones who still find it funny.
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I mean, beyond that, it's a way of looking at broken relationships that's entirely about possessive masculine pride and that erases the possibility that your feelings were actually involved to be hurt.
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Jul 28, 2018 18:00
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ZearothK posted:I appreciate the thread icon change.
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Jul 28, 2018 18:51
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Spectacular. My Mage game fell apart before we even started. Players got stupid over personal issues. Feh. Guess it's back to Vampire with the SANE group.
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Jul 28, 2018 20:08
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Even if we ignore that the only people who really care are people into a very niche genre of porn and the alt-right, it's just a bizarre category to include in a game. Like "remarried woman". It's probably not something that should come up or be relevant to the game at all, and focusing on it makes you weird. (Yes, you could possibly make something out of dealing with the marital problems of your food, but come on.)
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Jul 28, 2018 20:54
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LatwPIAT posted:Even if we ignore that the only people who really care are people into a very niche genre of porn and the alt-right, it's just a bizarre category to include in a game. Like "remarried woman". It's probably not something that should come up or be relevant to the game at all, and focusing on it makes you weird. It's just needlessly specific and I don't know how someone would have come up with it unless they were literally taking cues from 4chan, reddit, or other alt-right outlets. Like, 'foot fetishist' probably would have been less jarring in context. If I was being extremely charitable I'd guess somebody on the writing staff is a massive troll and the production staff hasn't realized it yet. EDIT: To clarify, I'm not seeking to excuse the complicity in this bullshit because all of this is a google search away Swedracula et all. And they've doubled down on multiple occasions. But how funny would it be if their entire reputation was being dragged through mud because they kept defending some alt-right jerkwad on the writing staff?
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Jul 28, 2018 21:37
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Wait, how the gently caress are they using "cuck" in this book anyway? The only inkling I got from that review was that some NPC was referenced as a cuck or something, but now its sounding like its a category or a trait or some poo poo?
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Jul 29, 2018 00:13
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Desiden posted:Wait, how the gently caress are they using "cuck" in this book anyway? The only inkling I got from that review was that some NPC was referenced as a cuck or something, but now its sounding like its a category or a trait or some poo poo? It's referenced in the Sample Prey section, but we have literally ZERO context other than 'they included it'. The article that posted it is not the best on explaining they things they picked out to be salty about.
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Jul 29, 2018 00:41
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MoonKnight posted:It's referenced in the Sample Prey section, but we have literally ZERO context other than 'they included it'. The article that posted it is not the best on explaining they things they picked out to be salty about. Please do explain what context this would be a good idea in. We'll wait.
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Jul 29, 2018 00:52
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Desiden posted:Wait, how the gently caress are they using "cuck" in this book anyway? The only inkling I got from that review was that some NPC was referenced as a cuck or something, but now its sounding like its a category or a trait or some poo poo? They didn't use that word. Here's the exact text. 14 Cuckold Names: Frank Meyer, Leslie Grant Who They Are: They know the other one’s cheating and they’re gonna go out and find them and fix it by yelling What They Want: To get a cab right the gently caress now and go catch them in the act Resonance: Choleric (angry at that rear end in a top hat who thinks they can do better) Still pretty weird, but not channer as people have described here.
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Still a weird word choice when they could of used "cheater". There just isn't a use of Cuckold that isn't charged in some way. It's always been a slur. Also is that a direct quote from the book?
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Jul 29, 2018 01:01
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It's still rather archaic at best, but the Channer use (at least, as of last year, when I finally gave up on my athropological observations because I just couldn't take it anymore) is strictly and entirely limited to the "cuck" format, they never use the full word for their purposes. It's pretty drat hard not to see it as a dogwhistle, though, given the entire garbage pile that is nuWW's "outreach" to those elements.
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Jul 29, 2018 01:13
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Even if you portray it in the best possible light, and assume some kind of clueless, we-didn't-know-what-crowd-uses-this-term kind of error, it looks clumsy, unresearched and oddly antiquated to put in. If you extrapolate to add even the slightest bit of awareness or even a basic loving Google search, it means someone did that knowingly, and that makes them a loving knobhead. So really, it's down to whether you want to believe the person who wrote that is incompetent, or actively malicious. Your call.
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Jul 29, 2018 01:15
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Shockeh posted:Even if you portray it in the best possible light, and assume some kind of clueless, we-didn't-know-what-crowd-uses-this-term kind of error, it looks clumsy, unresearched and oddly antiquated to put in. at this point with NuWolf it's either a frankly shocking degree of incompetence or willful ignorance.
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Jul 29, 2018 01:52
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Kurieg posted:at this point with NuWolf it's either a frankly shocking degree of incompetence or willful ignorance. "Angry rear end in a top hat" seems to be a more useful general tone for this archetype - from context I'm guessing these are like a list of thumbnail sketches to facilitate doing short and snappy feeding scenes, right? Like the old random encounter tables in the DMG, but for bloodbags.
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Jul 29, 2018 02:03
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Well, if it *wasn't* just lack of research or dumbness, we have this situation: "So, this term is an instant winner for Incels, MRA's *AND* Alt-Right? Oh hot drat, all three for one? PRINT!" Which, y'know, is worse.
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Back again with another Mage question. If, in nMage 2e, a spell paradoxes, does the mage still have control of the spell, or has it been twisted out of their grasp by the Abyss? The party's overly cocky Acanthus started a combat by accidentally turning half of everyone involved into children, most of whom then panicked and ran through an open Iris and got lost in the spirit world. The spell lasts for a month. Can he cancel the spell, or do I get to figure out how to run a side campaign for panicked eight-year-olds who were ripped out of their classrooms, crammed full of Supernal Truth, and shoved into a world made of animated abstract concepts that want to eat them? (If the spell can be cancelled, two of the party have been effectively trapped in the spirit world with two very powerful and very pissed off Seers and their guardian spirits, which is fun in and of itself.)
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blastron posted:Back again with another Mage question. I believe that this is not explicitly laid out; RAW, the spell can still be cancelled unless relinquished. In terms of fun, however, I'd go with whichever fits your designs, as it's perfectly within unreason for the Abyss to take over a spell. Maybe give it a much shorter Duration as a result of the Paradox, and make chasing them down in the spirit world a session? Also, this sounds great.
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Geist got funded with a bit shy of two thousand pledges. I'm kind of surprised at the number, it threw into perspective for me just how much of a niche hobby these elfgames are.
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Crasical posted:Geist got funded with a bit shy of two thousand pledges. A lot of WoD enthusiasm seems to have died with Beast and what followed.
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Well it's probably a little bigger than you think [Not everyone that ultimately gets it will pledge, not everyone that plays it will legally obtain it, and there are still some groups where only one or two people will actually get a copy that everyone else uses], yeah. Niche as all get out. Bigger than comics are I'd wager, but not massive.
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Tabletop is actually one of the most reliable KS moneymakers these days. The video game crowdfunding salad days are long gone, certainly. It’s really too bad they didn’t get to $117k for the half dozen or so people on earth who have 1E geists they want to convert. Anyway, looks like OPP’s next Kickstarter is some sort of conversion of a zombie apocalypse LARP
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Basic Chunnel posted:Tabletop is actually one of the most reliable KS moneymakers these days. The video game crowdfunding salad days are long gone, certainly. Dystopia Rising i.e. DR had a kitbash attempt by the IP owners but tey wisely contracted it out. Other than the extra supernatural spells and some Sigil/Dark Soulsy factions there really isn't much to it other than an existibg customer base.
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Also, man, Changeling 2e really took a big bite out of Pledgecrafting. It went from a (more) complicated version of a Demon Pact to a much lighter system, and one that i'm kind of dubious I'd ever want to make use of. Sealing is good, I like sealing, but as far as Oaths and Bargains... The penalties feel like they vastly outweigh the benefits of ever willingly swearing one. EDIT: Also, what do you roll to bust into someone's Bastion from the Dreaming Road? Crasical fucked around with this message at 03:40 on Aug 1, 2018 |
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Aug 1, 2018 02:56
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Basic Chunnel posted:Tabletop is actually one of the most reliable KS moneymakers these days. Yeah but what's the breakdown look like between roleplaying games specifically and things like designer boardgames? For comparison, Exalted 3E had about 4,500 backers and raised nearly $700,000, which is a significant chunk of money don't get me wrong. Meanwhile Gloomhaven's second print run KS had over 40,000 backers and raised nearly four million bucks.
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Aug 1, 2018 03:03
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Okay, NuWolf is definitely worried at this point.
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Pope Guilty posted:Okay, NuWolf is definitely worried at this point. It still looks dumb and fake. Honestly at this point I don't even know what they could do to make me not feel that way anymore. As long as they're married to 'vampire orgy BDSM party' as their primary aesthetic I just don't know, even hypothetically, how they get away from this.
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Key & Peele still hold the finest critique of the 90's vampire aesthetic nuWW carries. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXpxnxAL62A
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ZearothK posted:Key & Peele still hold the finest critique of the 90's vampire aesthetic nuWW carries. At some point I am going to run the game these guys are set in. Invictus and Circle of the Crone right there, with the Circle guy being very upset at how it turns out.
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Pope Guilty posted:Okay, NuWolf is definitely worried at this point. “This appendix did not exist prior to Polygon’s playtest of Vampire, one that included a simulated sexual assault. At the time, White Wolf producer Jason Carl said that this information was slated for a separate, paid release. Now it appears that at least some of that content is being included in the core rulebook.” I want to scream. I mean, I suppose due credit for wanting to do better, but come the gently caress on. Also, I find it amusing that we’re seeing Jason Carl everywhere while Ericsson seems to now be hidden away.
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Excited to see if people care about the problems with new White Wolf enough to actually not buy it. Fingers crossed.
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Aug 1, 2018 16:49
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White Wolf is handing off to Onyx Path to publish Chicago by Night for 5th ed. http://theonyxpath.com/onyx-path-publishing-to-publish-chicago-by-night-vampire-the-masquerade-5th-edition/
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Bosushi! posted:White Wolf is handing off to Onyx Path to publish Chicago by Night for 5th ed. This is honestly the smartest thing they could do, and will see the biggest upswing in quality and conscientious writing. Whether it will be able to fix their PR nightmare, who knows.
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quote:Clan Lasombra profile with Obtenebration rules. Playable for the first time in the V5 line! Oh, good, they're parceling out splats by scattering them throughout vaguely related supplements.
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Aug 1, 2018 20:33
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That Old Tree posted:Oh, good, they're parceling out splats by scattering them throughout vaguely related supplements. Sounds like a Paradox product, alright.
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Pope Guilty posted:Okay, NuWolf is definitely worried at this point. Incidentally, am I alone in thinking the aesthetic for V5 is loving hideous? Oversaturated colors, text on top of illustrations and photos, intentional digital artifacting and blocky glitches for style, lack of clear borders where everything dissolves into each other (which the Exalted 3e design also seems to suffer from). It looks almost as garish as the content reads, except at least the illustrations refrain from full rear end-rape stiffness. Onyx Path publishing for V5 honestly makes me feel worse about OPP far more than it makes me feel better about V5, but it's not really a big surprise. They already said awhile back they were in talks to license V5 books.
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Aug 1, 2018 21:24
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Nah it's definitely a really, really ugly set of illustrations. To the point that I'm not sure if that's intentional or they're just that bad at this.
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Mors Rattus posted:Nah it's definitely a really, really ugly set of illustrations. To the point that I'm not sure if that's intentional or they're just that bad at this. You and I both know the answer to this.
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Aug 1, 2018 21:49
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To be fair the only art i really find acceptable for oWoD is Guy Davis art so anything that deviates from that is unacceptable.
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citybeatnik posted:To be fair the only art i really find acceptable for oWoD is Guy Davis art so anything that deviates from that is unacceptable. He's amazing and I get excited every time I see him attached to something.
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