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Prop Wash
Jun 12, 2010



It was an excellent cover diminished only by the massive poo poo-eating grin Graves was wearing the whole time.
Edit: between the loose black blouse and wide-brimmed hat it was probably the only thing he wore that didn’t come from Grandma Graves’s closet

Day two: they put Grendel on the smaller indoor stage and some lovely German pirate rock band on the main stage. Now the indoor stage is totally full and there’s more people waiting in line to get in than there are watching the main stage. I am in that line and grumpy that I’m going to miss Grendel, although admittedly it is entirely my own fault. Now I will have to live with missing one of the few bright spots in a mostly underwhelming 2018 lineup.

Oh, She Past Away and Lebanon Hanover were really great last night! They put them on the small boat stage, which was the perfect venue for them. She Past Away played a brand-new song for the first time ever, but I can’t tell you the name because they haven’t thought of it yet.

Edit: idk the deal with these guys, there’s not even any Grendel merch. Maybe it all sold out already?

Post-show edit: my thoughts upon seeing that Nitzer Ebb has been announced for Amphi 2019: gently caress yeah, I’ve never seen Nitzer Ebb live! Someone else’s audible thoughts, spoken loudly: “who’s Nitzer Ebb?”

Prop Wash fucked around with this message at 21:56 on Jul 29, 2018

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thotsky
Jun 7, 2005

hot to trot

Prop Wash posted:

Post-show edit: my thoughts upon seeing that Nitzer Ebb has been announced for Amphi 2019: gently caress yeah, I’ve never seen Nitzer Ebb live! Someone else’s audible thoughts, spoken loudly: “who’s Nitzer Ebb?”

Don't touch their kit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2Mm38c50UQ

DasNeonLicht
Dec 25, 2005

"...and the light is on and burning brightly for the masses."
Fallen Rib

This is great, thanks for sharing. I love it when people upload content like this and actually bother to explain things in the description.

Must have been earlier in their career, since Nitzer Ebb definitely seem like a band that would step to if hosed with.

Danger - Octopus!
Apr 20, 2008


Nap Ghost

Prop Wash posted:

Post-show edit: my thoughts upon seeing that Nitzer Ebb has been announced for Amphi 2019: gently caress yeah, I’ve never seen Nitzer Ebb live! Someone else’s audible thoughts, spoken loudly: “who’s Nitzer Ebb?”

Wait, what? I thought they were definitely done for real because Douglas and Bon didn't get on any more. Guess they either made up or their other projects didn't pan out!

They're really good live. Douglas McCarthy has close to the best stage presence in industrial, IMHO

Danger - Octopus!
Apr 20, 2008


Nap Ghost
Double post, but in less exciting NE news it looks like Doug McCarthy has been called out for sexual harassment judging by posts on FB today

Molestationary Store
May 21, 2007

There's a vinyl box of almost all of Nitzer's stuff incoming to go with their upcoming shows
http://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/2018/07/30/nitzer-ebb-box-set-2019-tour/

DasNeonLicht
Dec 25, 2005

"...and the light is on and burning brightly for the masses."
Fallen Rib

Danger - Octopus! posted:

Double post, but in less exciting NE news it looks like Doug McCarthy has been called out for sexual harassment judging by posts on FB today

Can you share these? I haven't seen anything in the news yet.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Danger - Octopus! posted:

Double post, but in less exciting NE news it looks like Doug McCarthy has been called out for sexual harassment judging by posts on FB today

I vaguely remember him being accused of hitting on Sara Taylor awhile back but that's all I've heard.

Speaking of sexual misconduct, the long-standing accusations of serial sexual assault on underage girls by that poo poo from Blood On The Dance Floor, who toured with Angelspit and almost got to tour with Combichrist until people yelled at Andy about exactly this issue, are finally getting publicized.

Danger - Octopus!
Apr 20, 2008


Nap Ghost

Pope Guilty posted:

I vaguely remember him being accused of hitting on Sara Taylor awhile back but that's all I've heard.

Speaking of sexual misconduct, the long-standing accusations of serial sexual assault on underage girls by that poo poo from Blood On The Dance Floor, who toured with Angelspit and almost got to tour with Combichrist until people yelled at Andy about exactly this issue, are finally getting publicized.

It's Sara Taylor, being a bit more blunt than previously it looks like, and corroborated by Josh Eustis who apparently saw whatever went down on one of the occasions.

One day maybe there will be less creepy guys doing unacceptable poo poo.

Prop Wash
Jun 12, 2010



Speaking of sexual misconduct, holy gently caress the allegations against William Control https://www.altpress.com/features/william-control-sex-cult-allegations-interview/ They apparently came out a month or so ago, but it's the first I've heard of them. Good Guy Daniel Graves edited out Control's vocals from Rhythm + Control and is now donating 100% of the proceeds to Planned Parenthood.

Danger - Octopus!
Apr 20, 2008


Nap Ghost

Prop Wash posted:

Good Guy Daniel Graves edited out Control's vocals from Rhythm + Control and is now donating 100% of the proceeds to Planned Parenthood.

This is an awesome reaction.

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

God drat it

Whispering Machines
Dec 27, 2005

Monsters? They look like monsters to you?

Prop Wash posted:

Good Guy Daniel Graves edited out Control's vocals from Rhythm + Control and is now donating 100% of the proceeds to Planned Parenthood.

This is very good.

Saw Cyanotic, Kanga, Rabbit Junk, Relic, and For All the Emptiness last week. Not a fan of FATE but the rest kicked rear end.

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
Are there still people who think racism and sexism in industrial music must be due to an invasion of EDM festie bros?

thotsky
Jun 7, 2005

hot to trot
You will find lovely people in any community, but any sexist or racist trends I blame on aggrotech and neofolk respectively. Oh, and American counter-culture as a whole pivoting from anarchism and left wing politics to libertarianism and ultimately right wing politics during the 00's.

A human heart
Oct 10, 2012

The early Neofolk guys started off in industrial and punk and came to their politics before they started doing music with acoustic guitars, so that doesn't really make sense. I don't think American counter culture was ever particularly left wing in general, and industrial is so associated with European scenes and bands that that doesn't make much sense as an explanation either.

thotsky
Jun 7, 2005

hot to trot

A human heart posted:

The early Neofolk guys started off in industrial and punk and came to their politics before they started doing music with acoustic guitars, so that doesn't really make sense. I don't think American counter culture was ever particularly left wing in general, and industrial is so associated with European scenes and bands that that doesn't make much sense as an explanation either.

Maybe I am giving the North-American (mainly Canadian) hacktivist / cyberpunk scenes of the late 90's and early 00's too much credit, but that seemed to be among the last active scenes before Industrial "died". They were overtly political scenes, seeing Industrial music as a suitable soundtrack for the inevitable uprising during the Bush years.

Danger - Octopus!
Apr 20, 2008


Nap Ghost
There is a whole lot of extremely unpleasant misogyny in anhalt EBM. I would love to blame aggrotech but tbh any genre of music packed with straight white males and especially ones fetishising aggression like EBM and aggrotech will be hella toxic in places.

Basically men are poo poo and I hate that people make money off this by making music that celebrates this.

(I also have opinions re the low numbers of women in scene bands and the equally awkward fan obsession around some of the few that there are)

NonzeroCircle
Apr 12, 2010

El Camino
I saw Combichrist earlier. drat good show and a trans drummer which was one of the the last things I'd expect from them.

thotsky
Jun 7, 2005

hot to trot
LaPlegua is a total dick, and pretty much a straight up misogynist nazi. It's not like he's was being subtle about it before, but his latest tour was called Make Europe Great Again. Hopefully the Industrial scene will be rid of him now since the alt-right is embracing rockabilly as a genre and LaPlegua has started a rockabilly band called Scandinavian Cock to get on that trend.

Danger - Octopus!
Apr 20, 2008


Nap Ghost

Biomute posted:

LaPlegua is a total dick, and pretty much a straight up misogynist nazi. It's not like he's was being subtle about it before, but his latest tour was called Make Europe Great Again. Hopefully the Industrial scene will be rid of him now since the alt-right is embracing rockabilly as a genre and LaPlegua has started a rockabilly band called Scandinavian Cock to get on that trend.

I've mentioned it upthread somewhere, but he's sported Confederate flags and his Deathrod Kustoms site used to sell a "Heritage not hate" t-shirt which makes his views on that pretty clear to me. gently caress him.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
Ohgr is playing here soon. Not a fan of a lot of his solo output but I loved Welt and he seems to be playing a lot of those tracks on this tour. (I haven't listened to his new record.)

And Lead Into Gold is opening... and where else are you gonna see that? So yeah I'll probably go.

Edit: Listening now. Hah this is goofy. Catchy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rDDDjJngC4

BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 11:12 on Aug 17, 2018

hatelull
Oct 29, 2004

I like most of his solo output, with SunnyPsyOp being the one I listen to the least. The new record is SUPER synth heavy and manic. I can dig it. Live, he puts on a solid show if you go in with an open mind and don't expect him to do creepy shadow puppetry while grumbling "ANGER."

hatelull fucked around with this message at 23:36 on Aug 17, 2018

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/raymondwatts/status/1030470728095817728
I'm digging Raymond's shift into deep-throated disco.

BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 22:18 on Aug 17, 2018

Molestationary Store
May 21, 2007

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

Ohgr is playing here soon. Not a fan of a lot of his solo output but I loved Welt and he seems to be playing a lot of those tracks on this tour. (I haven't listened to his new record.)

And Lead Into Gold is opening... and where else are you gonna see that? So yeah I'll probably go.

Edit: Listening now. Hah this is goofy. Catchy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rDDDjJngC4

I haven't seen PB live so I may go despite never being taken with any of the headliner's stuff ever. :v:

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

I'd like to propose that Battery Cage is the most criminally underrated band in this scene. (gently caress A Young Person's Guide to Heartbreak is just still incredible.)

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

Six more days to new Ashbury Heights!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :dance::dance::dance:

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

Skinny Puppy is releasing Back And Forth 8 on bandcamp. It's all super old poo poo, I was hoping any potential BF8 would be outtakes from albums after the Process but you get what you get I guess.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

teethgrinder posted:

I'd like to propose that Battery Cage is the most criminally underrated band in this scene. (gently caress A Young Person's Guide to Heartbreak is just still incredible.)
I'm gonna listen to this

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

poo poo there's been a new Ashbury Heights song out for 6 days and I only just noticed!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVM-WAivpDg

New album drops tomorrow.

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

teethgrinder posted:

I'd like to propose that Battery Cage is the most criminally underrated band in this scene. (gently caress A Young Person's Guide to Heartbreak is just still incredible.)
I think that album came out at a time when doing anything outside the typical electro-industrial dance music was alienating to a lot of people in the scene. But you're right, and their live shows are good too.

hatelull
Oct 29, 2004

TOOT BOOT posted:

Skinny Puppy is releasing Back And Forth 8 on bandcamp. It's all super old poo poo, I was hoping any potential BF8 would be outtakes from albums after the Process but you get what you get I guess.

I don't know man, I read the fine print on that and am much less enthused. It looks to be Brap and Forth 8, probably because Key wanted to avoid any nastiness in calling it an extension of a Puppy project. The bandcamp descriptions indicate that it's pre-Back and Forth, which I believe was the early first ep/demo release prior to Remission? This release has maybe a handful of bleeb, I think a lot of it is just Key loving around with some synths in his apartment/studio while blazed. Might be fun in the "oh hey, that sounds like the skeletal framework for 'Icebreaker'" sense, but smacks of cash grab. I'd kickstart new bleepity bloop Download/platEAU material in a heartbeat, but this is only minorly interesting in for me.

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

I didn't intend to stay up to listen to new Ashbury Heights ... but gently caress I'm glad it worked out.

Poppier than I'm used to, but so sultry and solid.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
Just catching up with this album from earlier in the summer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J83E72dl1w

Sounds very similar to old RevCo.

For some reason I keep thinking of the original Batman:

Beard Dandruff
May 10, 2017

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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

Just catching up with this album from earlier in the summer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J83E72dl1w

Sounds very similar to old RevCo.

For some reason I keep thinking of the original Batman:



Speaking of old RevCo, and yes I've mentioned them previously, but Cocksure is seriously awesome.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBsResDjdNk

Danger - Octopus!
Apr 20, 2008


Nap Ghost
Infest is an extremely serious festival for only the most serious industrial fans:

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bm-tu3TltUJ/
(not my photo)

Also it was great fun. Iszoloscope, Sarin and This Morn Omina were awesome live.

Danger - Octopus!
Apr 20, 2008


Nap Ghost
Double post, but is anyone in the thread going to Maschinenfest? I'm thinking about going since it's the final one and I've not been in a decade, but I'm not sure if I'll know anyone there!

Edit: gently caress it, I'm going to MFest whether I know anyone or not.

Danger - Octopus! fucked around with this message at 19:02 on Aug 29, 2018

Prop Wash
Jun 12, 2010



Danger - Octopus! posted:

Double post, but is anyone in the thread going to Maschinenfest? I'm thinking about going since it's the final one and I've not been in a decade, but I'm not sure if I'll know anyone there!

Edit: gently caress it, I'm going to MFest whether I know anyone or not.

gently caress, I didn't know about Maschinenfest and now I want to go to Maschinenfest

Danger - Octopus!
Apr 20, 2008


Nap Ghost

Prop Wash posted:

gently caress, I didn't know about Maschinenfest and now I want to go to Maschinenfest

Come to Maschinenfest! It's the last one and has a mostly awesome lineup.

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BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
Of course

https://twitter.com/Pornhub/status/1035191046957948928

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