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It's amazing how many different and effective strategies there are with this game. For most of the game I've just been setting up Olberic's divine skill along with Tressa's and the physical defense debuff when I get a chance.. I've got 2mil gold and doesn't seem like there's much to spend it on though so I should probably give her a job with something to let me hit harder. Unfortunately, the one time I tried to use Leghold Trap was during a break and since the turns didn't move I kind of wrote it off. Seems like it's a pretty awesome skill when used right. katkillad2 fucked around with this message at 23:40 on Jul 29, 2018 |
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Mega64 posted:Yeah, C4 Primrose was a disappointment for me as well. (Spoilers for End of Chapter 4) Even for a jRPG, that boss was way too much of a ham, and by the time he was killed I was less happy that Primrose finally got her revenge and more thankful that he'd finally shut the hell up. Way to ruin any potential that finale would've had after Chapter 3 ended with a great lead-up to C4. Ugh glad I'm not alone. Primrose is my main character, but I finished her story today and C4 went straight into eyeroll territory for me. I was initially really interested by the betrayal -- as in like, immediately after Primrose was stabbed -- and then he started talking and it was just so cringey. His betrayal still stung less than the unskippable credit sequence that eventually followed, though.  On to wrap up Haanit's C4 next! I had a really hard time figuring out how to subclass her until I learned she gets a coonskin hat as a Merchant.
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Jul 29, 2018 23:39
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katkillad2 posted:It's amazing how many different and effective strategies there are with this game. For most of the game I've just been setting up Olberic's divine skill along with Tressa's and the physical defense debuff when I get a chance.. I've got 2mil gold and doesn't seem like there's much to spend it on though so I should probably give her a job with something to let me hit harder. I specced Tressa as a Scholar due to the SP Saver passive and she did some serious work for me through most of my chapter 2 stories.
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Jul 29, 2018 23:40
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katkillad2 posted:It's amazing how many different and effective strategies there are with this game. For most of the game I've just been setting up Olberic's divine skill along with Tressa's and the physical defense debuff when I get a chance.. I've got 2mil gold and doesn't seem like there's much to spend it on though so I should probably give her a job with something to let me hit harder.
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Jul 29, 2018 23:42
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so i've almost unlocked everyone and quick question, how on earth do you play this game level-wise should i focus on doing all of one party's stories at a time or swap in the low-level members and do their stories with 3 tough guys and 1 dead weight whoever decided that inactive characters should get 0 exp in a game revolving around experimenting is a monster e: i've mostly been dooting around with Tressa/Cyrus/Ophelia so far, my game is Olberic And His Tiny Friends Yinlock fucked around with this message at 00:10 on Jul 30, 2018 |
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Jul 30, 2018 00:05
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A Spider Covets posted:Ugh glad I'm not alone. Primrose is my main character, but I finished her story today and C4 went straight into eyeroll territory for me. I was initially really interested by the betrayal -- as in like, immediately after Primrose was stabbed -- and then he started talking and it was just so cringey. I absolutely loved how melodramatic it was! And how the play played out the way the fight did only to contrast at the end. Perhaps I just saw Primrose's story less seriously than most?
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Jul 30, 2018 00:08
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Yinlock posted:so i've almost unlocked everyone and quick question, how on earth do you play this game level-wise What I did is I picked four characters to run through all their stories with. Since you're stuck with your main character this is the only way they're not going outlevel someone badly by the end. Then you go through with your four remaining characters in a sort of new game+ mode.
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Jul 30, 2018 00:09
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Yinlock posted:so i've almost unlocked everyone and quick question, how on earth do you play this game level-wise I have a few favorites that I like to travel with more than others, but for the most part I swap my party out constantly (making sure to swap in the lowest level characters whenever I stop at an inn) and just go to whatever story is the closest in level. Most everyone is around the same level this way, except for my protagonist, who is about 10 levels ahead of everyone else.
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Jul 30, 2018 00:11
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Yeah, I've been swapping characters out regularly to focus on leveling whoever's lowest, and that's been working out well. I'm almost finished with all the Chapter 4's (only Tressa left now), and everyone's almost caught up with my main, who I let sit after I finished his C4 first. Main is L55, everyone else is at least L50 now.
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Jul 30, 2018 00:14
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yeah i'm just paranoid about my protagonist being overleveled, but that seems inevitable. I guess I'll just use everyone and let Olberic's level soar like the majestic eagle it always wanted to be
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Jul 30, 2018 00:17
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So, I reread what Boost-Start does and holy crap. I guess I'll need to get that on basically everyone, huh?
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Jul 30, 2018 00:21
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Finally got time to play again, finished Therion's ch4 and finally let him out of the party and he's level 58 so he's going to sit out for awhile (except when I find purple chests I didn't have access to before  ). I'm glad he was my main character. I'd have kept him in the party if he could give his XP/jp to party members after fights because he's 10-15 levels above everyone else. I also challenged an NPC guarding a house in his ch4 town and when I beat them they dropped a (third) wizard rod.  Shame the battle-tested stuff has kMMORPG drop rates though, so farming those would be hellish. Also you either need to get Olberic really high leveled or use H'aanit, which sounds awful because her challenge stuff being restricted to monsters is the worst.Wrapping up Cyrus's ch4 now and boy I'm glad I had warmaster and hunter for tearing through that ridiculous shield count, and then sorcerer/starseer (and Alfyn's concoct) for the susequent and slightly less annoying elemental shield count. Didn't help that I forgot to give Olberic his damage cap breaker passive so he was only able to deal 9999 damage with his divine skill. Or 2k per hit with the Warmaster sword skill if I rolled the dice on it (I did, 6 hits at 2k each was helpful). At least Cyrus was able to do an easy 12-14k per turn during breaks. Natural 20 posted:There's a summon in Everhold I think, an usher that gets unlocked after Primrose's chapter 4. Man throws out a party wide defense/magic defense buff and will do so with a 50% chance every turn, so he usually ends up buffing the party with that for 9 turns or so. Which is usually worth the turn cost. There's also a summon in Bolderfall(?0 behind an NPC you have to challenge. Their specialty is guillotine and it hits like a freight train. IIRC they also have an AOE that hits for a few thousand damage. I don't mind Ophilia and Primrose's need to pickup new NPCs but H'aanit just felt tedious since you can't even guarantee a stunned enemy with 1hp will be a 100% capture rate, and if you fail then all that setup was for nothing. Which is why she's my lowest leveled character now (at 43, and I have 6 ch4s to go so I'm sure she'll be 50+ in the end). Though I'm sure that having her setup with specific summons (and a Cait for their absurd effect, if you manage to capture one in the first place) will let her stomp the hell out of bosses if you really feel the desire to find and collect a bunch of 10* monsters.
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Jul 30, 2018 00:49
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Is the Runelord worth using as a job for something other than getting Warmaster? Should I grab it, shove it on Tressa and just Sidestep everything forever? I really like her as a Sorcerer, but I can certainly be persuaded.
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Jul 30, 2018 01:24
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The elemental runes do a poo poo load of damage, iirc elemental break can trigger rune pursuit
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Jul 30, 2018 01:33
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Harlock posted:Olberic's divine skill doing over 10k damage as early as Chapter 2 is what ends most boss fights for me See, I don't get these results. I am also not doing anything of the gamebreaking stuff, so maybe that's the difference, but my Olberic is like level 35 or so; I've done a couple (but not most) of the chapters 3s and his Divine skill does like 6700 to things that are broken and weak to swords. I also find keeping on top of upgrades very hard. I don't remember who sells what, so if I switched someone's job and now they need a good axe, I might not remember that there's a better one available. I take most chests I see, including purple ones, but only occasionally find a solid upgrade; I also do most character stories a couple levels under the "recommended" level, which hasn't really been a big problem, so it's not like I'm finding gear after it's supposed to be good. I also don't shell out $20k+ for something that improves a stat by like 6, that doesn't seem reasonable to me. Stealing is not the goldmine it's reputed to be if you aren't savescumming so I am having to choose which upgrades are worth it. I like a lot about this game, mainly the combat system, but it has a lot of rough edges. It's a solid B-range game but after the demo I was kind of expecting it to be an A.
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Jul 30, 2018 02:07
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Tressa's great with Rest/Sidestep, but even on its own Runelord is great since the extra damage/shield break is great and you can do some sick damage on weapons with high elemental attack. Finally traveled the octopaths, just got the whole lead up to the final dungeon to do now. Glad I saved Tressa's C4 for last, that was a great capper for the whole game. Pretty much liked all the stories for the most part, some slow parts here and there but I'm satisfied in how those stories turned out. Actually surprised I liked H'aanit's as much as I did, it was pretty simple but worked well. Now to convince myself to take a break for a few days since I've got so much stuff I've put off the past couple weeks to play this game...
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Jul 30, 2018 02:08
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I haven't had much trouble with money since my approach to battle involves Cyrus, Poison, and upkeep on magic. Weapons are for breaking shields.
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I'd like H'aanit a lot more if she actually spoke English instead of insanely garbled old tyme speakTae posted:I haven't had much trouble with money since my approach to battle involves Cyrus, Poison, and upkeep on magic. Weapons are for breaking shields. my gameplay style is like the exact opposite, breaking shields is for the weak and tiny people to do to prepare for Olberic's giant death slash
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Tae posted:The elemental runes do a poo poo load of damage, iirc elemental break can trigger rune pursuit Yeah, any weapon attack triggers a pursuit, and Elemental Break is a staff attack.
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Jul 30, 2018 02:28
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Doing some of the chapter 2s and man Tressa just feels like dead weight half the time with her default skillset. Donating BP is at least kinda cool though. Also I'm extremely down for Dancer Olberic.
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Jul 30, 2018 02:35
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ApplesandOranges posted:Doing some of the chapter 2s and man Tressa just feels like dead weight half the time with her default skillset. Donating BP is at least kinda cool though. Put dancer on her and be support bot/ and wind dark break specialist
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Jul 30, 2018 02:36
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I had Cyrus as a Dancer for long enough to get every skill before I realized that all the turns I had him spend buffing were turns he wasn't blowing poo poo up. I put Dancer on Tressa and now everything is melting.
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Jul 30, 2018 02:39
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Tressa has access to a huge weapon variety via hiring and gives a defensive buff. Donate bp is the best support skill outside of alfyin when you can eventually by enough materials to spam bp party.
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Jul 30, 2018 02:44
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ApplesandOranges posted:Doing some of the chapter 2s and man Tressa just feels like dead weight half the time with her default skillset. Donating BP is at least kinda cool though. I specced Tressa as a Scholar pretty early and grabbed the last Merchant passive skill. She's been GREAT.
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Jul 30, 2018 02:55
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Yea, Tressa with Scholar is what I ran most of the game as well. Makes her a breaking champ with access to most spell types along with the merchant skill to summon weapon types you need in a pinch, also trivializes random battles. I just picked up Runelord and am experimenting with it on Tressa. What exactly does the Elemental Edge skill do? "Gain augmented elemental attack and defense in battle" doesn't tell me much.
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What am I doing wrong. I am at level 50 to 46 and I can't beat Runelord or Warmaster. I got the trick to cheese them, but then they get near death and wipe me. Like everyone always suggest you get them to target one person and side step or have higher defense, but then they pull multi-hit all bullshit. Of course the two who live get put to sleep. I am really loving tired of wasting 30 minutes fighting these two assholes only to wipe near the end. These two fights have really hurt my enjoyment of the game, as I wanted to get rid of them before finishing off the chapter 4 for my active party and chapter 2 for the B team. I should look for more stun and sleep immunity items. I had only one set and that person got killed in that lovely multi-hit attack. That attack was bullshit since I had defense up on everyone from the Starseer ability spread across everyone through the dancer divine ability. Rirse fucked around with this message at 03:18 on Jul 30, 2018 |
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Jul 30, 2018 03:11
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Yeah I put Scholar on Primrose because of her SP regen passive. Decent synergy, but maybe I'll give her Thief instead.
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katkillad2 posted:Yea, Tressa with Scholar is what I ran most of the game as well. Makes her a breaking champ with access to most spell types along with the merchant skill to summon weapon types you need in a pinch, also trivializes random battles. Elemental Edge is a permanent elemental attack and elemental defense buff on the equipped character. The physical equivalent is on Warmaster.
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Jul 30, 2018 04:13
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ApplesandOranges posted:Yeah I put Scholar on Primrose because of her SP regen passive. Decent synergy, but maybe I'll give her Thief instead. I put that passive on Tressa and Ophilia too. It's pretty great.
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Jul 30, 2018 04:16
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So is the overwhelming power just mandatory on everyone in end game? Or do you hyper specialize people in to breakers and actual damage dealers
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Bombadilillo posted:So is the overwhelming power just mandatory on everyone in end game? Or do you hyper specialize people in to breakers and actual damage dealers Not so much breakers but you basically do two damage dealers, two not damage dealers who can also help out with damage if they don't need to do anything else. The damage dealer will usually be Scholar/Sorceror if magic or Warmaster/Hunter if physical damage, and you load them up with BP Eater and Overwhelming and let them go at it. Runelord is great for the other two units though since it's pretty tough to get a rune follow-up past 9999 damage, so just let them hit for that much without the need for any skills or accessories that boost damage. That way, even a Cleric can help out with damage and shield breaking when they're not healing.
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guppy posted:See, I don't get these results. I am also not doing anything of the gamebreaking stuff, so maybe that's the difference, but my Olberic is like level 35 or so; I've done a couple (but not most) of the chapters 3s and his Divine skill does like 6700 to things that are broken and weak to swords. Having Olberic apply his atk buff the turn before popping his divine skill and/or having someone lower the target's defense makes a huge difference if you aren't doing either. Though the last passive from warmaster is real nice for physical characters like him for their overall convenience of power. Tae posted:The elemental runes do a poo poo load of damage, iirc elemental break can trigger rune pursuit They have to do a lot because they're competing with Cyrus dropping 12k AOEs as a sorcerer (and even more if he uses his focus target divine skill). Especially of a Cleric pops their divine skill on him as well because it means he gets to double cast spells for those several turns and if you burned BP for the first skill then the recast also gets the BP enhanced damage but doesn't cost the extra BP. Cyrus dropped back-to-back 25-26k damage turns on his ch4 boss.  (I forgot to have Olberic use surpassing power, again, so he was stuck doing 9999 damage because I didn't have warmaster's divine skill unlocked on him yet  )e: None of my damage dealers (Olberic, Therion, Cyrus) have BP eater yet either, which should further push their already solid* damage higher. * Therion's only a damage dealer when setup as a warmaster or warrior, since his thief divine skill's damage just doesn't seem that great, but maybe if you load up on a ton of speed gear it can out damage the warrior divine skill for him. Evil Fluffy fucked around with this message at 05:05 on Jul 30, 2018 |
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The bonus on rune follow-ups is incredible, Cyrus is regularly hitting the damage cap when I have him use an unboosted elemental break on a down turn.
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Is it me or are the reactions from Tressa and Alfyn's path skills really hilarious Usher: Please stop harassing everyone to sell you things Tressa: Always looking for a bargain  Widow: I never want to part with my husbands keepsake... it means so much to me Tressa: Always looking for a bargain Man: My wife died to a monster the other day... god why couldn't it of been me instead?! Alfyn: Haha nice talkin to ya Woman: I am a vicious criminal and have killed many people. The town is looking to throw me in jail but I'm hiding out here Alfyn: Haha nice talkin to ya
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:Is it me or are the reactions from Tressa and Alfyn's path skills really hilarious I decided to fight every NPC in several towns for fun since everyone is level 70. The reactions to provoke and challenge can be a treat.
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:Is it me or are the reactions from Tressa and Alfyn's path skills really hilarious This is one of my favorite parts of the game. Tressa in particular is ruthless with the most inappropriate and downright vicious Always looking for a bargain!
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Rirse posted:What am I doing wrong. I am at level 50 to 46 and I can't beat Runelord or Warmaster. I got the trick to cheese them, but then they get near death and wipe me. Like everyone always suggest you get them to target one person and side step or have higher defense, but then they pull multi-hit all bullshit. Of course the two who live get put to sleep. I am really loving tired of wasting 30 minutes fighting these two assholes only to wipe near the end. These two fights have really hurt my enjoyment of the game, as I wanted to get rid of them before finishing off the chapter 4 for my active party and chapter 2 for the B team. My trick was to have two people spamming Sidestep (Tressa and another Merchant) and the other two have Saving Grace (final Cleric passive) using Alfyn's Concoct (Purifying Seed + Essence of Grape) to overheal them to 9999. Rehabilitate is also nice for status immunity. Feeding BP is also handy as hell. If you're not using Alfyn, the Jams should double your HP for the Saving Grace characters since the amount they heal is whatever your Max HP is.
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Rirse posted:What am I doing wrong. I am at level 50 to 46 and I can't beat Runelord or Warmaster. I got the trick to cheese them, but then they get near death and wipe me. Like everyone always suggest you get them to target one person and side step or have higher defense, but then they pull multi-hit all bullshit. Of course the two who live get put to sleep. I am really loving tired of wasting 30 minutes fighting these two assholes only to wipe near the end. These two fights have really hurt my enjoyment of the game, as I wanted to get rid of them before finishing off the chapter 4 for my active party and chapter 2 for the B team. Warmaster can be gimmicked by beating Runelord first so let's focus on him. Runelord isn't actually too bad in the first 100k at level parity. The second 100k is where he'll kill you. So you can either try to beat it fairly or just burst him down. You want to be running a Sorceror somewhere alongside a character running the Scholar Divine and someone with the Cleric Divine. A character wants ranger somewhere as well. Sorceror also should ideally have the cleric passive that grants +1 buff duration, to give you a little leeway. The idea then becomes to track the Runelord's HP down to 100k. When it's just above you set up Scholar/Cleric divine on your sorceror and break the Runelord. At max burst your sorc should hit for around 60k damage in a turn. During your break phase you leghold trap the Runelord. When they come out they'll drop their defenses and hit you with a sweep. You now have 8 turns to break Runelord again which should be fairly doable. When you do, you setup your Scholar/Cleric combo again and blow him off the map.
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Is there a list of what sub jobs are best on each character
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