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Ytlaya posted:edit: As an unrelated thing, I finally looked up where to spend achievement points, and found that I had enough to get 2 mounts (with some left over). I got the goofy claw that drags you around and held off on spending the rest for the time being. The warrior of light barding is also adorable
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Vadoc posted:They'll probably eventually just have it be cast automatically so it can be replaced by a new ability. They should just give everyone a flat defense increase equal to what protect gives you while in dungeons.
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Jul 30, 2018 20:08
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Now that I've started running MSQ Roulette daily, I can't help but notice that Praetorium just never ends due to all of the monologue. It's like Gaius is dictating his biography or something.
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Jul 30, 2018 21:16
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Ytlaya posted:They should just give everyone a flat defense increase equal to what protect gives you while in dungeons. But only if it does the visual representation of being applied as well.
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Jul 30, 2018 21:21
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Now that I've started running MSQ Roulette daily, I can't help but notice that Praetorium just never ends due to all of the monologue. It's like Gaius is dictating his biography or something.
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Jul 30, 2018 22:01
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Nessus posted:Didn't they do all that poo poo in such a way that if ARR had bombed, it'd have been like "Well, at least this was a complete story" If ARR had bombed square-enix probably would have gone bankrupt They probably didn't want to leave a bad taste in the mouths of people playing it as a mostly-solo JRPG without really caring about the MMO.
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Jul 30, 2018 22:02
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It was super cool to me at the time when ARR first came out having this big cinematic dungeon with a big bad guy giving a speech like this was a d&d campaign villain. Now though I wish they'd just rework the main story roulette dungeons into solo encounters with the scions or something helping.
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Jul 30, 2018 22:07
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the shiba inu auspice from heaven on high casts protect on you in every dungeon after the barrier falls, complete with its iconic message
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Jul 30, 2018 22:15
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Change Protect to a large 10 second damage resist buff on a long cooldown or something. I have no idea why they decided to make it work they way it does but it has never made a meaningful difference for most lower level content, yet people are still trained to think it *has* to be up at all times.
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Jul 30, 2018 23:18
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Thundarr posted:Change Protect to a large 10 second damage resist buff on a long cooldown or something. I have no idea why they decided to make it work they way it does but it has never made a meaningful difference for most lower level content, yet people are still trained to think it *has* to be up at all times. Yeah, it really ought to be either a single-target damage vulnerability down buff or some kind of group damage vulnerability down buff for a limited duration. I realize it's iconic, but it lasting an entire dungeon off of one buff isn't. I can't think of another FF game where Protect lasts as long as it does in FFXIV. I assume they just didn't want to have to retune endgame encounter calculations under the assumption of having 2x damage vuln down buffs for the fight. Maybe next expansion?
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Jul 30, 2018 23:51
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Keep protect as is but make it kill the player when 30 minutes runs out.
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Jul 30, 2018 23:52
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You either die a hero or live long enough to see your Protect run out.
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Thundarr posted:Change Protect to a large 10 second damage resist buff on a long cooldown or something. I have no idea why they decided to make it work they way it does but it has never made a meaningful difference for most lower level content, yet people are still trained to think it *has* to be up at all times. The reason why it works that way, and why it hasn't been killed yet, is because that's how it works in the other games. Yoshida is unwilling to get rid of it because he feels like it is one of the very "Final Fantasy" things about the combat, or some rubbish like that.
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Jul 31, 2018 00:08
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A guy I know says ITS NOT FINAL FANTASY WITHOUT PROTECT and I would have forgotten it existed at all if not for this game.
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What's the exact rotation for Wildfire on MCH again? I'm trying to get back into it and I know there's some specific optimal rotation but can't remember what.
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Rainuwastaken posted:The reason why it works that way, and why it hasn't been killed yet, is because that's how it works in the other games. It only lasts a single encounter in other games!
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Jul 31, 2018 00:31
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Rainuwastaken posted:The reason why it works that way, and why it hasn't been killed yet, is because that's how it works in the other games. Yoshida is unwilling to get rid of it because he feels like it is one of the very "Final Fantasy" things about the combat, or some rubbish like that. No I mean specifically, Protect works by buffing your defense score by a few percent. Other mitigation buffs just give you a raw % of damage off the top, so Protect is unique in that sense in FFXIV. It also means that Protect scales (very slowly) with your item level, and unless you are a tank in a full BIS suit it isn't going to change your defense value enough to really matter.
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Jul 31, 2018 00:54
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I've yet to convince a party to start running w/o Protect by now it's just for morale.
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ImpAtom posted:What's the exact rotation for Wildfire on MCH again? I'm trying to get back into it and I know there's some specific optimal rotation but can't remember what. There's a couple different variations. The common ones are in this album: https://imgur.com/a/VlG7iUb
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Thundarr posted:No I mean specifically, Protect works by buffing your defense score by a few percent. Ah, my bad. Didn't know that's what you were talking about.
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Jul 31, 2018 01:50
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Does anyone know what the actual defense % increase on protect is now? I've tried looking it up out of curiosity but all I can find is info from ARR
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Twist: It actually doesn't do anything and is a mere placebo.
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Leal posted:Twist: It actually doesn't do anything and is a mere placebo. 
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I like Protect because I can watch cutscenes at my leisure without people proceeding without me. Is it normal to be frustrated with Wondrous Tails? I only figured out how to use Second Chance (the entire time I was shuffling the stamps). I won't have time to complete a line before the reset, so it's kind of a bummer. Also, what do the silver/gold certificates do? Lily Catts fucked around with this message at 02:59 on Jul 31, 2018 |
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Schneider Heim posted:I like Protect because I can watch cutscenes at my leisure without people proceeding without me. Wonderous Tails is basically pure gambling. At best you can reroll until you have the POSSIBILITY of a win. 3 silver or 1 gold certificates can be traded to Khloe for a top-end piece of gear.
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If I recall its still 15% more magic and physical defense. Which if I recall is around 5-6% more mitigation at all times right now.
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Mormon Mother posted:Does anyone know what the actual defense % increase on protect is now? I've tried looking it up out of curiosity but all I can find is info from ARR When Stormblood first came out I tested it using autoattack damage from some random mobs at level 70 and couldn't measure any difference (averaging out a large number of attacks). I guess it's still possible that with a tank's defence numbers and bigger boss damage the difference would be large enough not to be a rounding error. It's also possible that it's bugged in some way or isn't actually programmed to do anything. Fortuitous Bumble fucked around with this message at 04:57 on Jul 31, 2018 |
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Because I'm an idiot I just now, during the level 45 Dark Knight quest, realized that I'm actually saying all the stuff Fray is saying (I'm guessing Fray is an illusion I'm seeing or something). Pretty neat though. edit: I guess they're like the side of your character who is tired of constantly doing hero stuff for other people. vvvvv Ahh, thanks, that was cool. I'm really curious about how this is going to play out. I feel like these job quests are literally the only quests in the entire game (that I've seen anyways) that actually characterize your PC, edit2: Is Fray male if your PC is male? She's a woman for me. Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 06:40 on Jul 31, 2018 |
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Read your quest log for the DRK quests for the love of god
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Serve... Save... Slave... Slay... (Dark Knight is awesome.)
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It's great how Paladin has given my questing a new context. Running around and helping people with no regard for the reward beyond how many cabbages it'll feed my chocobo.
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PLD: Help everyone, no matter what DRK: oh my god go away i have better things to do
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Hi it's me, the total patsy to DRK 30-50. On DRK 45 I commented to my FC that "Fray has some issues" and someone replied "oh boy they sure do" and then sadhjdlfkjghdfkgjlahsd Some people think DRK 50-60 is a step down but I really like it because I'm a sucker for all that crap. And the end of DRK 60 was super satisfying because the main baddie was pretty much irredeemable and nothing short of killing her would make Rielle safe. Also moogles. I'm torn right now progression-wise because I really want to level my other jobs for their questlines but post-3.0 MSQ is really good (Raubahn being extra in the grand melee) and I fear that once I get to Stormblood content I'll be tempted to blaze through it. (and there are my underleveled DoH/DoL classes, too) Also, I noticed that out of my dialogue options, the third one is always the sassy option (or "..."). Has this always been a thing? I feel like it's something being a DRK gives you but I could be wrong. It's kind of nice to play as the tired adventurer sick of everyone getting her to do stuff. Lily Catts fucked around with this message at 07:26 on Jul 31, 2018 |
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I loved driving Fray and Sigurd crazy with my relentless positivity. (And skipping cutscenes in the paladin quests, except for 61-70.)
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WrightOfWay posted:There's a couple different variations. The common ones are in this album: https://imgur.com/a/VlG7iUb
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FactsAreUseless posted:Wow, this looks loving miserable. The MCH experience
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Schneider Heim posted:Hi it's me, the total patsy to DRK 30-50. On DRK 45 I commented to my FC that "Fray has some issues" and someone replied "oh boy they sure do" and then sadhjdlfkjghdfkgjlahsd Concerning Rielle's mom: The second right before Sidurgu slays her, where she realizes her wrongdoing too late? So loving heartwrenching, but so earned. After ARR ended and they started working with Stormblood, they began to had a lot more dialogue choices for the character to make the players feel a bit more invested. They don't affect anything important but they add a really appreciated bit of flavor text. The ellipses are often a joke answer caused by the PC's natural silent protagonist slate, of course. But no, I don't think any answers yet are added solely from jobs played. SB does have healers join in healing in story cutscenes at points, but it's not a choice and is dependent on the job you're on at the time.
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FactsAreUseless posted:Wow, this looks loving miserable. It's not particularly hard once you get used to it. MCH becomes surprisingly rote and mechanical after a while.
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Only variance in your wildfires will eventually be occasionally getting that sixth GCD out.
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FactsAreUseless posted:Wow, this looks loving miserable. I mean if you play MCH long enough, you'll eventually come around to figuring this poo poo out on your own anyways. I got this ingrained into my muscle memory through trial and error long before It just LOOKS extra miserable because of heated shots changing the icon, but is still fundamentally the same as it has always been ever since in HW. If Split-Slug-Clean are 1-2-3, then the best use of ammo is to go 1-2-1-3-2-3.
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