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Schmeichy posted:Goodspaceguy is old news. This guy was my favorite: https://weiapplets.sos.wa.gov/MyVot...e&group=Federal I'm enjoying Alex Tsimerman's statement in the voter pamphlet, personally. What a lunatic.
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DrNutt posted:They could be staffed with literal saints and they still shouldn't get 180 million taxpayer dollars. Subsidization of professional sports is absurd at its most base level. Yes.
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Jul 27, 2018 08:27
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Jul 27, 2018 08:37
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Seize and liquidate the entire franchise and hand the proceeds directly to the poor as cash. Dynamite the stadium sim city style and build a low income housing project so large as to be visible from orbit. The now-unemployed ballsports players can live in it, I guess.
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RuanGacho posted:What if we buy the local sports team and convert it into a player owned co-op with salary caps and the wealth extraction that normally occurs would go directly to capex and infrastructure investment? Literally one sports franchise has done this and after it happened the league made sure no other teams would do it.
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HEY NONG MAN posted:Literally one sports franchise has done this and after it happened the league made sure no other teams would do it. Green Bay Packers?
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Yes. I mean, maybe there are other collectively owned teams on other continents but as far as MLB/NBA/NFL/NHL/MLS(LOL) goes, the packers are the only working example.
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Jul 27, 2018 15:18
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Turn Safeco field into a giant execution stage and sacrifice homeless people to appease the creator Bezos.
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Honestly if there's at least one county in the US that's gonna call their bluff, it would be King county. So I expect them to fold because they're scared to lose them like the Sonics or some poo poo.
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OneMoreTime posted:Honestly if there's at least one county in the US that's gonna call their bluff, it would be King county. Just like we stood up to the bluff that Amazon would move away because of the head tax.
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Jul 27, 2018 18:01
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DevNull posted:Just like we stood up to the bluff that Amazon would move away because of the head tax. Imagine if they did? Might actually be able to afford a house in King! ...Or at least in Everett. Or Marysville. Mt. Vernon?
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OneMoreTime posted:Imagine if they did? Might actually be able to afford a house in King! ...Or at least in Everett. Or Marysville. Houses in Marysville stay on the market for a week, tops. It's really crazy.
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OneMoreTime posted:Imagine if they did? Might actually be able to afford a house in King! ...Or at least in Everett. Or Marysville. My best friend bought a house in Marysville a few years ago and even up there the prices have gone up over 50% since he bought the place. If you want cheap housing in the North end you are looking at somewhere like Stanwood or Mt Vernon.
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Peachfart posted:My best friend bought a house in Marysville a few years ago and even up there the prices have gone up over 50% since he bought the place. If you want cheap housing in the North end you are looking at somewhere like Stanwood or Mt Vernon. That is not the North end of Seattle, that is the North end of the U.S.
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Solkanar512 posted:Green Bay Packers? With all the Scandinavians here from the mid west that are familiar with the Packers, I bet one could that model in Seattle.
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I'd really like to see someone hold Ted Wheeler down and defend this decision https://twitter.com/wweek/status/1022957299499905024
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Thanatosian posted:That is not the North end of Seattle, that is the North end of the U.S. Everything on the west side of the mountains in Washington is a suburb of Seattle. Edit: Well, except maybe Bellingham and Vancouver.
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Javid posted:Seize and liquidate the entire franchise and hand the proceeds directly to the poor as cash. Dynamite the stadium sim city style and build a low income housing project so large as to be visible from orbit. The now-unemployed ballsports players can live in it, I guess. This but single family homes in Wallingford/Queen Anne/Madison Valley/West Seattle, or anyone who has ever complained about apodments.
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My complaint about apodments is that they aren't actually cheap though.
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Peachfart posted:Everything on the west side of the mountains in Washington is a suburb of Seattle. Olympic Peninsula and the coast, also not suburbs of Seattle.
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George posted:My complaint about apodments is that they aren't actually cheap though. What gave you the impression apodments were being built to be affordable instead of a better investment for the developer?
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KingFisher posted:This but single family homes in Wallingford/Queen Anne/Madison Valley/West Seattle, or anyone who has ever complained about apodments. Apodments are vicious cash grabs by lovely developers. But I hope you get stuck in one for a long time.
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Jul 30, 2018 19:03
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Love too live in a city with rising vacancy rates but without any relief on rent.
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The solution is large-scale public housing. Singapore, Vienna, etc. Plenty of models to look at. It's a solved problem.
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But this isn't Vienna, those solutions would never work herhfuhwgf9843gf5gu4vnv4434t4t
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Accretionist posted:The solution is large-scale public housing. Singapore, Vienna, etc. Plenty of models to look at. New York and Chicago hosed that up with racism / corruption and the federal government going welp ain't funding that any more (racism again) go gently caress yourselves cities certainly didn't help.
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I personally would like to see apodments abolished. I hate them and it was clear from the start it was an excuse to charge the same for less.
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Caring about apodments is a lazy half-step. Massively build public housing, rent it out at cost, if people still want to rent costly, lovely, tiny apartments from capitalists, I don't see any reason to stop them.
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You can get mad at apodments but when someone's options are one of those for 800 or a one bedroom for 1400 can you really blame them for wanting to save $600 a month?
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FRINGE posted:Apodments are vicious cash grabs by lovely developers. But I hope you get stuck in one for a long time. I lived in one for 2 years and it was fine. It was more affordable than any apartment, I didn't have to deal with a roommate and I could pay month to month. Apodments are only unaffordable because we haven't allowed enough to meet demand, once the demand for entry level market rate housing has been met any additional supply will lower the cost.
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Accretionist posted:The solution is large-scale public housing. Singapore, Vienna, etc. Plenty of models to look at. Agreed we should be building 50 story 1000 unit towers of mixed income multi-family housing around each light rail station. But instead we are building a 300 unit lowerise building in Capital Hill. The people of the city don't want to fix the problem. They are racist and classist and want thier segregationist single family homes.
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Cactrot posted:Love too live in a city with rising vacancy rates but without any relief on rent. Imagine a future were the city changed the laws where there was so much excess capacity in housing that the landlord's had to fight tooth and nail to get you to choose to live in thier empty unit. That's what we could have if we zoned properly and had a floor of publicly funded housing to keep the supply greater than demand.
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People are mad at apodments because the solution to affordable housing shouldn't be stuffing people into closet dwellings. Other places have solved affordable housing without dehumanizing as many people as possible.
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Apodments literally only exist because of an arbitrage where one protection counted kitchens and the other counted bedrooms. There is no market for them otherwise.
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DrNutt posted:People are mad at apodments because the solution to affordable housing shouldn't be stuffing people into closet dwellings. Other places have solved affordable housing without dehumanizing as many people as possible. This right here. Also whenever the issue of housing comes up, it always seems to assume that the people in need are folks with no spouses, children and so on.
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You should be mad at the city relaxing regulations to allow for apodments for the same reasons you'd be mad at relaxing regulations to allow for residential building too close to the waterfront, or next to the airport, or between a steel mill and a rendering plant. It's like how you should be mad that landlords are able to collect rent on buildings in disrepair, which is why Seattle recently passed that bill that restricts slumlords from increasing rent, which is a laughably tiny concession.
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Solkanar512 posted:This right here. Also whenever the issue of housing comes up, it always seems to assume that the people in need are folks with no spouses, children and so on. Apodments aren't supoosed to be "affordable housing" they are entry level market rate housing units for people dont need all of the features of a studio or 1br. "Affordable housing" specifically means rental units that have subsidized rents so people making less than 80% of AMI can afford rent. Quit conflating them.
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