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If the bank revenge theory is correct, I wonder why Marjorie thought sending some rube in there to get blown up stealing a few thousand dollars was an effective revenge. She's crazy I guess, no other reason needed.
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Sarcopenia posted:You should also check out the podcast called Dirty John. It's a trip. Casefile is great; also in the list of pretty good criminal stories: Crimetown In the Dark The Pope's Long Con S-Town (some crime, more story) Death in Ice Valley The Crimetown guys are also doing RFK Tapes, which examines the RFK assasination. My Favorite Murder deserves a mention, but like the (awful) Last Podcast on the Left, MFM is an acquired taste.
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I think the line of thought is that Marjorie was convinced (either by her own "genius" or by Bill) that this little bank would totally have $250K lying around. For the instructions, it's hard to say what the real plan was. The bomb would only have its timer extended by the first key on the list. The second and third keyholes weren't attached to anything, so killing Wells was definitely part of the plan. My assumption was that they figured that the cops would be like movie cops and run around town working through their directions, which would spread the cops out enough to let the gang snag the money drop. If the local cop in the documentary's story was true, then somebody was waiting at the money drop location. It seemed like they were surprised when the cops just acted like regular cops and not like it was Die Hard. It's hard to quite piece everything together though, because there's a thick cloud of Dunning-Kreuger and moon logic over their whole plot. And if we're recommending Podcasts, I'll throw in In Sight and Yours in Murder. In Sight is fairly nice and calm, and covers a lot of Australian true crime that you wouldn't normally hear about, even if I don't always agree with their theories. I just started on Yours in Murder. It's a nice in-between from dry true crime and the comedy ones like My Favorite Murder and LPoTL. It's two sisters, one who studied to be a journalist and one who studied forensics, bantering about true crime with a focus on covering the victims.
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https://www.theatlantic.com/magazin...utm_content=cm& Article from last year about a death at a frat house. You've probably heard of the case. The final paragraphs are desperately haunting.
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StrixNebulosa posted:Just watched the netflix documentary on this, Evil Genius, and...jesus. What a weird case. Evil Genius has one of the greatest quotes of all time from the medical examiner. " We decapitated him as respectfully as possible".
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slinkimalinki posted:https://www.theatlantic.com/magazin...utm_content=cm& That whole article is horrific 
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slinkimalinki posted:https://www.theatlantic.com/magazin...utm_content=cm& Greek Life should be dismantled pretty much across the board and applying to Penn State ought to put you on a watch list.
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Jesus, finding out the mercy killing of your friend had actually been entirely unnecessary seems like it'd gently caress you up pretty bad. I mean, the guy was hydrated well enough to bury his friend, but it starts impacting your thinking earlier on, right? Combine that with Coughlin throwing up because of an adverse reaction to the cactus and how easy it'd be to panic over that in that situation and it seems like a pretty hosed up situation it'd be very possible to make a very bad judgement call in.
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13Pandora13 posted:Greek Life should be dismantled pretty much across the board and applying to Penn State ought to put you on a watch list.  Penn State having a rep as a high end school's loving stupid, and I say this as someone who attended one of their satellite campuses.
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slinkimalinki posted:https://www.theatlantic.com/magazin...utm_content=cm& God drat. That picture of the parents is devastating to me. They look as if their life has been hollowed out (and it was).
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Kanine posted:oh another unnerving thing is realizing that if the united states government just straight up started putting refugee children in gas chambers, the majority of white americans either wouldn't care, would care but wouldn't do anything, would write some kind of strong letter to their representatives or attend a single protest, or would actively celebrate it, and the majority of white americans regardless of doing one of those things would be very very angry at anyone actually fighting back in a real way whether through violent means or civil disobedience.
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Werong Bustope posted:That whole article is horrific I'm glad it made other people feel as horrible as it made me feel. I really only posted it to share the misery of having read it.
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slinkimalinki posted:https://www.theatlantic.com/magazin...utm_content=cm& fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
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slinkimalinki posted:https://www.theatlantic.com/magazin...utm_content=cm& I don't usually sit through really long articles, but this one had me from the beginning to the end Jesus Christ /edit: Also, at least some of the frat boys involved seem to be headed for some jail time, it seems, but with the larger charges dropped already, my mind is still blown...this poo poo was on loving video from the beginning to the end Duzzy Funlop has a new favorite as of 08:51 on Jul 31, 2018 |
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I was looking up progress reports on the case and it just boggles my mind that the prosecution had to be taken over because judges were flat-out dismissing all charges despite the evidence.
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https://twitter.com/mikeyfranklin/status/1023647622970716160 gently caress.
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Which concentration camp was it, where they made the people from the town go out in their Sunday best and look at the poo poo they'd been actively ignoring right outside their town? I know at Bergen they made civil servants from the surrounding areas help bury bodies but I distinctly remember regular old townsfolk being taken to a camp to shame them real hard.
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Untrustable posted:Which concentration camp was it, where they made the people from the town go out in their Sunday best and look at the poo poo they'd been actively ignoring right outside their town? I know at Bergen they made civil servants from the surrounding areas help bury bodies but I distinctly remember regular old townsfolk being taken to a camp to shame them real hard. It was a few. Dunno how valid the "in their sunday best" was, but it was reasonably everywhere that there was a german population next to a dead/concentration camp that roped the civilians into the cleanup effort. A lot of Allied officers had the exact same thought during those times.
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Tashilicious posted:It was a few. Dunno how valid the "in their sunday best" was, but it was reasonably everywhere that there was a german population next to a dead/concentration camp that roped the civilians into the cleanup effort. I can't remember which it was either but I know for at least one they made the locals sit through a screening of the atrocities they'd filmed during the liberation of the camp.
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13Pandora13 posted:Greek Life should be dismantled pretty much across the board and applying to Penn State ought to put you on a watch list. I never saw the point of letting a bunch of assholes abuse me just so they'd let me be in their "club".
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Untrustable posted:Which concentration camp was it, where they made the people from the town go out in their Sunday best and look at the poo poo they'd been actively ignoring right outside their town? I know at Bergen they made civil servants from the surrounding areas help bury bodies but I distinctly remember regular old townsfolk being taken to a camp to shame them real hard. Yeah, they did a scene in Band of Brothers where they forced the towns folk, in their finery, to come out and carry bodies out of the mass grave and bury them properly. That whole "came across concentration camp" part of that show was some powerful TV.
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Proteus Jones posted:Yeah, they did a scene in Band of Brothers where they forced the towns folk, in their finery, to come out and carry bodies out of the mass grave and bury them properly. I don’t know if it was Band of Brothers or reading but the part that stuck with me was not being able to let them eat as much as they wanted because they were so starved and malnourished that they would have died from eating.
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Obsoletely Fabulous posted:I don’t know if it was Band of Brothers or reading but the part that stuck with me was not being able to let them eat as much as they wanted because they were so starved and malnourished that they would have died from eating. The Bergen-Belsen lipstick story makes me want to cry every time I think about it. Edit: The passage in question that will stick with me forever: Lieutenant Colonel Mervin W. Gonin posted:It was shortly after the British Red Cross arrived, though it may have no connection, that a very large quantity of lipstick arrived. This was not at all what we men wanted, we were screaming for hundreds and thousands of other things and I don’t know who asked for lipstick. I wish so much that I could discover who did it, it was the action of genius, sheer unadulterated brilliance. I believe nothing did more for these internees than the lipstick. Women lay in bed with no sheets and no nightie but with scarlet red lips, you saw them wandering around about with nothing but a blanket over their shoulders, but with scarlet red lips. I saw a woman dead on the post mortem table and clutched in her hand was a piece of lipstick. At last someone had done something to make them individuals again, they were someone, no longer merely the number tatooed on their arm. At last they could taken an interest in their appearance. That lipstick started to give them back their humanity.” small ghost has a new favorite as of 13:47 on Jul 31, 2018 |
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Okan170 posted:Found the archived snapshots of the forums from 9/11:  Nailed it.
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Okan170 posted:Found the archived snapshots of the forums from 9/11: I never realized "WATCH BUSH START A loving WAR" was uttered before the towers even collapsed
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13Pandora13 posted:Greek Life should be dismantled pretty much across the board.
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This is infuriating, but the way that Angus Johnston guy writes is tediously verbose. It made me look up Mark Twain’s advise about using 50 cent words instead of 5 dollar words as much as possible
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xtal posted:Some folks need to catch up on the centuries of theory written about anarchism. it's kind of insane how many americans (and people worldwide) can't actually summarize in basic terms what anarchism, socialism, communism, liberalism, or capitalism are. (spoiler: this obviously because it benefits the powerful) Kanine has a new favorite as of 16:26 on Jul 31, 2018 |
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The first sentencing was today in the hazing death. ewe2 posted:I was looking up progress reports on the case and it just boggles my mind that the prosecution had to be taken over because judges were flat-out dismissing all charges despite the evidence. The first former Beta Theta Pi fraternity brother to plead guilty will not spend time in jail for his role in 19-year-old pledge Timothy Piazza’s death. Instead, Ryan Burke, Beta Theta Pi’s “rush chair,” was sentenced to three months of house arrest in Lackawanna County in addition to 27 months of probation, 100 hours of community service and a $1,000 fine on Tuesday. Duzzy Funlop posted:I don't usually sit through really long articles, but this one had me from the beginning to the end If your rich and white you don't go to jail. The sentencing started today for the first person who plead guilty to "hazing".
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That $1000 fine is really gonna smart.
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Werong Bustope posted:The Bergen-Belsen lipstick story makes me want to cry every time I think about it. drat, that is powerful. The most haunting thing for me out of the Bergen-Belsen liberation was Richard Dimbleby's calm, compassionate report. The audio is here but please bear in mind this person has put photos over it. 'She was trying to cry, but she hadn't the strength.' Video here
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Proteus Jones posted:Yeah, they did a scene in Band of Brothers where they forced the towns folk, in their finery, to come out and carry bodies out of the mass grave and bury them properly. I might be mixing Band of Brothers up in my head with WW2 in Color. I take in a lot of WW2 stuff in my spare time.
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Untrustable posted:I might be mixing Band of Brothers up in my head with WW2 in Color. I take in a lot of WW2 stuff in my spare time. It was definitely a thing that happened, and in more than one place.  1 2 3
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The Beverly Hills Supper Club was a massive country club and entertainment facility just south of Cincinnati in Kentucky. It hosted a lot of acts, from comedians to musicians. On May 28, 1977, there were as many as 3,000 in the club, possibly up to 1,300 in the Cabaret Room, where John Davidson was set to perform. Then the fire was noticed at 9 p.m. Wikipedia posted:Near the south exit close to the main bar, opposite end of the building from the Cabaret Room,[7] a wedding reception drew to a close around 8:30 p.m. in the Zebra Room, near the building's main entrance; some of its guests had complained of the room being excessively warm with loud explosions from beneath the floor, and the group left the building before the end of their allotted time.[11] The room remained vacant from their departure until a minute before 9 p.m., when an employee smelled smoke and opened the Zebra Room's door to confirm the presence of smoke. She asked another employee to call the Fire Department while she and others grabbed any available fire extinguishers and began trying to fight the flames. Though the employees were not aware of it, their opening of the Zebra Room's door allowed enough oxygen into the room to cause what had been a smoldering fire in the room's drop ceiling to flashover and begin to spread rapidly. It quickly became clear that fire extinguishers were useless against the fast-growing blaze.[9] The Fire Department was alerted to the fire at 9:01 p.m. and arrived by 9:05;[11] as they approached, firefighters on the first emergency vehicles could already see smoke coming from the building.[8] Bailey, the busboy, undoubtedly saved hundreds of lives with his announcement. No one knew how big the fire was at the time, just that it was in the Zebra Room. Bailey had talked with a superior, but nothing was getting done. So he interrupted the warm-up act and asked people to exit the building. In the end 165 people died in the fire. Cincinnati TV station WCPO did a 40-year anniversary oral history of the blaze . WCPO posted:DAMMERT: “After I got out, I ran around front, trying to see if people were getting out. The first thing I remember seeing was a pretty girl in a light blue dress. I’m pretty sure she was dead. And in the garden outside the bar, there was another lady in a blue dress, laying there. Her husband was sitting next to her, in shock. I told him, ‘I’m going to do what I can,’ and I was starting to breathe into her mouth. And our family doctor happened to be there, and he said, ‘No Wayne, she’s dead, you can’t do anything for her.’ The amount of people in the club was way over fire codes, but no one seemingly inspected that, or the wiring. As to what started it, there is a heavy rumor the mafia torched it.
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Kanine posted:no idea at how sarcastic this post is supposed to be honestly, it's kind of vague idk 0% sarcasm. But in the case of that post and this post I redacted it for being an off-topic can of worms. xtal has a new favorite as of 00:52 on Aug 2, 2018 |
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Jesus christ, the Casefile episode on the Lin Family.RC and Moon Pie posted:The Beverly Hills Supper Club was a massive country club and entertainment facility just south of Cincinnati in Kentucky. It hosted a lot of acts, from comedians to musicians. Large fires are always horrifying. 
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Comrade Koba posted:It was definitely a thing that happened, and in more than one place. For reference, the 1970's World At War series also showed live footage of town residents made to help bury the dead, regardless of their claims they knew nothing of the nearby camps. It may well have been this very footage. There's some icky stills on that page, you have been warned.
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