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Ah it's the time of the month for postapoc economy thread
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Nice piece of fish posted:Are you loving kidding me? How is this not blatant fraud and psychological/proganda warfare? That is insane. This is an incredible vulnerability for democracies, and frankly no responsible government should ever hold a referendum ever again if its vulnerable to this kind of manipulation. Public Relations is the propaganda term for propaganda https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_(book)
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Jul 31, 2018 11:09
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Post-doomsday economics: despite what popular media says, hoarding bottlecaps will not save you also, comedyblissoption posted:almost all advertising is psychological/propaganda warfare
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Jul 31, 2018 11:11
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"My generation will be known for memes about wanting the economy to die."
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Jul 31, 2018 11:13
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1024236805477097472
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Jul 31, 2018 11:39
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is this rant because they accidentally endorsed bernie?
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Jul 31, 2018 11:47
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Truga posted:is this rant because they accidentally endorsed bernie? there were a couple of interviews from yesterday/the other day: The Koch network's top brass distance themselves from Trump IT’S WAR!: THE KOCHS KNEECAP TRUMP IN AN ATTEMPT TO MAKE THE G.O.P. THEIRS AGAIN Top Koch network official: 'The divisiveness of this White House is causing long-term damage' Koch Brothers Group Leadership Calls Out Trump For ‘Lack Of Leadership’ Koch officials: President Trump's trade tariffs hurt Americans
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Jul 31, 2018 11:51
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lol nice
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Jul 31, 2018 11:59
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gradenko_2000 posted:there were a couple of interviews from yesterday/the other day: Wonder if they see a bloodbath in November and are distancing themselves early. Or maybe it's because the Kochs care slightly more about money than they do about racism.
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Jul 31, 2018 12:04
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Weren't the Koch bros raised like the twins from breaking bad with their father being hector salamanca and would make them physically fight each other i dont even want to know what type of sociopathy rots in their brains
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Jul 31, 2018 12:09
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Tiberius Christ posted:Weren't the Koch bros raised like the twins from breaking bad with their father being hector salamanca and would make them physically fight each other Their dad got rich building Stalin's oil infrastructure and then founded the John Birch Society because he was completely insane.
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Jul 31, 2018 12:18
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Zeroisanumber posted:Or maybe it's because the Kochs care slightly more about money than they do about racism. It's this op. They're beginning to realise that nobody ever cared about their lovely libertopian vision, people only listened to them because they had money. And Trump is making that money look awfully cheap and tawdry compared to real, state-sanctioned power. I bet the Kochs will turn Dem in 2020. The Dems will welcome them with open arms then lose by 10 points.
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Jul 31, 2018 12:54
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Nice piece of fish posted:Are you loving kidding me? How is this not blatant fraud and psychological/proganda warfare? That is insane. This is an incredible vulnerability for democracies, and frankly no responsible government should ever hold a referendum ever again if its vulnerable to this kind of manipulation. Lol my dude what the gently caress do you think literally any and all political advertising of any stripe is? Yeah those ads are lovely but, uh, welcome to the past... I dunno, 60+ years or so of politics. If somebody buying advertisements that push their position makes an election "illegitimate" hooboy have I got some news for you. About the worst anyone did here was break a relatively minor law with a small fine attached. Although democracy is trash, time to institute full Dictatorship of the Proletariat imo. E: The data mining is obviously less than 60 years old, but in that case welcome to the past 15 years of any and all interactions with the internet. We're well beyond people filling out a form to enter a contest being a scandal, about half the apps on your phone are probably reading every single post on all your social media accounts while also listening through your always-live mic to everything you say as long as the phone has power. Crazycryodude fucked around with this message at 13:18 on Jul 31, 2018 |
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Jul 31, 2018 13:12
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thinking facebook ads during a moratorium on ads is the straw that breaks the camels back on democratic legitimacy is some hardcore naivety
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Jul 31, 2018 13:13
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British liberals refuse to accept any reality in which someone voted against the EU because it's piss. I've banged my head against that brick wall before.
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Jul 31, 2018 13:18
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https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1024272178710233089
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Jul 31, 2018 13:43
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the EU IS piss because the fact that the ecb has a stranglehold on the currency means they can blackmail net importer countries into crushing austerity (see the damage they've done to italy, etc). but also the british had the best of all worlds because they had access to some of the EU's good aspects while also having their own currency and full control pver their own fiscal and monetary policy. they had the best possible deal in the world and brexit was totally pointless suicide
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Jul 31, 2018 13:43
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mila kunis posted:the EU IS piss because the fact that the ecb has a stranglehold on the currency means they can blackmail net importer countries into crushing austerity (see the damage they've done to italy, etc). mila kunis gets it
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Jul 31, 2018 13:47
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that said, if i was someone in wales or northern england or someone in poverty in london seeing all the gains of this bright new world going to city financiers while my communities died and my quality of life went to poo poo i would also have voted for brexit to bring the whole system crashing down out of raw spite
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Jul 31, 2018 13:47
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mila kunis posted:the EU IS piss because the fact that the ecb has a stranglehold on the currency means they can blackmail net importer countries into crushing austerity (see the damage they've done to italy, etc). don't get that retard started on how no food on shelves and running out of medicine on top of the general destruction of the economy for decades is in fact good
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Jul 31, 2018 13:50
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Jose posted:don't get that retard started on how no food on shelves and running out of medicine on top of the general destruction of the economy for decades is in fact good That's the thing Jose! Bear with me here, because this is a complicated Doomsday Economics Effortpost coming up, here it comes, here it coooooomes: 1. None of those things are going to happen. 2. Believing that they're going to makes you kind of a moron.
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Jul 31, 2018 13:55
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here is a real good article outlining how hosed food is going to be after no deal brexit https://twitter.com/IanDunt/status/1022798559727550464
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Jul 31, 2018 13:57
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you may be so old that you were alive and remember pre-EU but leaving it is entirely different to not joining in the first place. you idiot
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Jul 31, 2018 13:59
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Jose posted:here is a real good article outlining how hosed food is going to be after no deal brexit isnt that guy a melt
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Jul 31, 2018 13:59
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he might well be but that article is very well researched
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Jul 31, 2018 14:00
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how much of the food shortage is going to be an arizona style rotting in the fields situation because nobody actually born in the country wants to do the slave labour that poor immigrants takin ARE JOBS were doing
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Jul 31, 2018 14:00
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its going to be sitting in trucks going rotten because all of a sudden every single thing needs custom checks we grow gently caress all of our own food
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Jul 31, 2018 14:01
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Ah yes the great geopolitical and economic analysis of *checks notes* Ian Dunt of politics.co.uk. Consider me loving shook.
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Jul 31, 2018 14:01
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why don't you actually read the article
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Jul 31, 2018 14:02
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if it makes you feel better jose you can give it another year or two of climate change and decimated european food crops mean there wouldnt be any food to sit on the trucks anywayt
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Jul 31, 2018 14:03
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interesting things in that article: to import and export meat we will now need vets to check it all to make sure its up to code. All the vets who do this in the UK are EU vets because british vets don't want to do it. its basically working in an abattoir making sure things are safe and checking all the slaughtered animals
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Jul 31, 2018 14:05
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Ayn Randi posted:if it makes you feel better jose you can give it another year or two of climate change and decimated european food crops mean there wouldnt be any food to sit on the trucks anywayt See this is the thing that people should be worried about, roughly a billion percent more than Brexit. Instead we're in Ian Dunt's fantasyland where robotic customs guards shut down the country because no-one ordered them to do anything else and no-one has any agency or common sense. The idea of letting food trucks in is completely impossible, beyond impossible! WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIEEEEE!!! We are all going to die of course, but it'll be because everyone was too busy wanking over Brexit to do any actual disaster preparation.
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Jul 31, 2018 14:06
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the article in fact covers your idiot idea about just letting everything inquote:At this point, Downing Street could decide to unilaterally give up all these tests and procedures for goods coming into the UK. After all, it is now unbound from EU law. It can do what it likes.
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Jul 31, 2018 14:08
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Jose posted:the article in fact covers your idiot idea about just letting everything in i mean yeah theyre absolutely going to do this over letting there be starvation.
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Jul 31, 2018 14:10
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yeah and then a bunch of people will probably die from poisoned stuff. its important to note that the hard brexiters currently in government, which will be in power for a full 3 years after brexit, want a free trade agreement with the US and its incredible standards on everything
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Jul 31, 2018 14:11
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Jose posted:the article in fact covers your idiot idea about just letting everything in I am sorry that I do not find the hyperbolic meltdowns of your favourite carnival barker particularly compelling.
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Jul 31, 2018 14:11
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Often Abbreviated posted:Ah yes the great geopolitical and economic analysis of *checks notes* Ian Dunt of politics.co.uk. ah yes the good posts of Often Abbreviated who *checks thread* is completely wrong in everything he posts
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Jul 31, 2018 14:11
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The UK also got a pretty significant discount on EU membership fees.
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Jul 31, 2018 14:13
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ian oval office
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Jul 31, 2018 14:13
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also if we do just let everything in with no checks that will destroy all exports to the EU
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