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Dang it, Ophelia. Stop chasing little boys. The church already has a really bad reputation about that.
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Holy poo poo did I just utterly obliterate the Runelord boss. Got Scholar and Cleric divine skills on Cyrus, broke the boss, cast Shooting Stars, each comet was doing 29k. 29k x 6 = 174k. He died on my first use of it. Holy poo poo.
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Jul 31, 2018 04:39
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Beat Red Eye. Suitably creepy boss design.
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Jul 31, 2018 04:43
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Ophilia's Ch.2 is pretty funny. Yeah gonna light this thing then just meander and do whatever. I kind of love how the stories are such slice of life occurrences and things that you encounter are just happenstance or pretty normal problems as opposed to DARKLORD WANTS TO COLLECT THE 4 CRYSTALS TO DESTROY EARTH. Minor note: I'm at level 25 to 30ish, when should I start trying to seek out the 4 hidden subclasses? Is it even feasible to find them or earn them before beating all the chapter 2s?
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Jul 31, 2018 04:48
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Jonas Albrecht posted:Beat Red Eye. Suitably creepy boss design. Just wait until you reach the endgame...
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Jul 31, 2018 04:53
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DLC Inc posted:Ophilia's Ch.2 is pretty funny. Yeah gonna light this thing then just meander and do whatever. I kind of love how the stories are such slice of life occurrences and things that you encounter are just happenstance or pretty normal problems as opposed to DARKLORD WANTS TO COLLECT THE 4 CRYSTALS TO DESTROY EARTH. I’ve also been wondering when I can start going for the advanced classes. I’ve finished all the chapter 2s and am about level 30 on everyone.
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Jul 31, 2018 04:57
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DLC Inc posted:Minor note: I'm at level 25 to 30ish, when should I start trying to seek out the 4 hidden subclasses? Is it even feasible to find them or earn them before beating all the chapter 2s? I've taken out three myself and I didn't start until I was in the mid 30s. More important than sheer level is skills. You need some divine skills to take out most of them.
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Jul 31, 2018 05:00
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DLC Inc posted:Ophilia's Ch.2 is pretty funny. Yeah gonna light this thing then just meander and do whatever. I kind of love how the stories are such slice of life occurrences and things that you encounter are just happenstance or pretty normal problems as opposed to DARKLORD WANTS TO COLLECT THE 4 CRYSTALS TO DESTROY EARTH. Extremely  I've seen a lot of people criticize Ophilia's Ch.2, Alfyn's, etc. but I think it's a wonderful change of pace. It's one of the great things about the 8 main quest format 
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Jul 31, 2018 05:20
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Ok, so all the 'random hit' attacks that can do 5-8/10 strikes all operate under the same rules. So both of the hunter bow skills, the warrior spear skill, and the warmaster sword skill. 1.At minimum, 3 strikes will ALWAYS hit. This is guaranteed, so these skills can be great at breaking bosses. 2.Any additional strikes have 50% chance to hit. 2a.Arrowstorm calculates accuracy for the whole AOE, so everything hits, or nothing hits. So at minimum, arrowstorm will hit 3 times, then flip 2 coins to see if you get 2 extra hits.
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Jul 31, 2018 06:25
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Super ultra endgame spoiler chat, do not read unless you've 100% the game or can assume you are on the same quest I'm on. So... I'm not sure I'm going to beat the true final boss. My B-Team is probably 20 levels behind. I've enjoyed the game for almost 90 hours, but don't think I have it in me to grind the other characters to where they need to be. ( Most of them mid-low 40's. ) I don't think it mattered with how underleveled half of my characters are, but also screwed up my party formation for the split on accident... meaning when I lost on the first phase it was that much more tilting when I realized that yep... no loving checkpoints here. I was going to try to put Olberic on a team with three of the B-Team characters hoping he could carry one of the phases but that's not going to work unless phase 2 is considerably easier than phase 1. When I was doing the shadow bosses I was cruising through them with no problem at all, assumed I was over leveled and then the first phase of the boss fight pushed my poo poo in. Feeling pretty  about even trying it again. Will probably just youtube the ending.
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Jul 31, 2018 06:37
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Oh jesus do you have to do all the fights in a row and then the final boss without saving
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RazzleDazzleHour posted:Oh jesus do you have to do all the fights in a row and then the final boss without saving 
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Jul 31, 2018 07:19
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RazzleDazzleHour posted:Oh jesus do you have to do all the fights in a row and then the final boss without saving haha hehe hoho
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Jul 31, 2018 07:41
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I just finished Tressa's final chapter, lmao that was hot garbage. The final villain is just some random woman you met 10 minutes ago who stole your lovely diary for some reason you never find out. And then the whole "the true treasure all along was the journey." 
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Jul 31, 2018 11:02
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I wonder how badly you can make a 'worst subjob' party. I think so far I've got: Olberic: Scholar H'annit: Cleric Ophilia: Thief Cyrus: Hunter Primrose: Apothecary Alfyn: Dancer Therion: Merchant Tressa: Warrior
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Jul 31, 2018 11:14
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Tressa's story as of Ch3 just sucks. Which is made worse by the fact that she is actually a sweet character who I want to see succeed, but good god maybe Tressa needs a different career because she absolutely blows at being a merchant.
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Jul 31, 2018 11:59
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Both her and the chapter 3 guy are bad merchants. Oh this thing that you're showing interest in? It's worthless  Nuh uh, it's old and valuable!  I still like her story so far because it's a departure from everything else.
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Jul 31, 2018 12:06
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A post earlier said to give therion the warrior subclass and haanit problem is I’m stuck with haanit as my main but I want to bring therion along...can I make him like a mage or something else? Typically I would love to have: Haanit Olberic Ophelia Therion But I’m just not sure who to give the right side jobs so I’m covered on all bases. 😢
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Jul 31, 2018 12:47
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Make Therion a Dancer, it is good. He becomes a buff/debuff machine who can give SP and still hit pretty hard. e; with that party you can't inquire/scrutinize so you'll be missing a path action
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That makes sense. Guess I’ll have to drop okberic though then  but I also heard that he possibly makes a good healer too? I’m not attached to Ophelia at all if you think there’s a better party mix or
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Jul 31, 2018 13:16
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Healing scales from Elemental Defense and Olberic has among the worst in the game (tied with Primrose, Therion, and H'aanit). That said, there's plenty of armor that boosts Elemental Defense and that can make up for it almost entirely, so while you shouldn't expect him to be immediately healing for as much as Ophelia can, he'll certainly be capable enough. Alternatively, replace Ophilia with Alfyn and you'll keep your healer but gain the Inquire path action. One thing your group is sort of missing is someone with really good Elemental Attack to use the Scholar job, though. You could take Cyrus instead of Ophilia and give him the Cleric subjob, though every turn he's healing is a turn he isn't nuking and his nukes are very, very good.
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Jul 31, 2018 13:31
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Thanks for the reply. So it seems like I’d probably be better off then going haanit Cyrus therion olphillia then. I guess with warrior job haanit might be able to kinda tank?
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Jul 31, 2018 13:33
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Empress Brosephine posted:Thanks for the reply. So it seems like I’d probably be better off then going haanit Cyrus therion olphillia then. I guess with warrior job haanit might be able to kinda tank? But really, don't worry too much about it. You don't need an optimal party to get through the game and there's a surprising number of cool combinations that might not seem immediately obvious (like Warrior Ophilia being a kickass bufftank). Give the characters cute costumes, kill things. If you want to make sure you have coverage, pick 4 characters with unique path actions of your choice and give them the sub jobs of the 4 characters you didn't pick. That'll get you one of everything. v v
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Jul 31, 2018 13:36
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Your Computer posted:Warrior H'aanit is great for dealing damage, but she isn't very tanky (doesn't she have some of the worst phys. def in the game?) Primrose has the worst, but H'aanit ties with Therion for second worst. She does tie with Olberic/Primrose for worst Elem. Def. though.
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Jul 31, 2018 13:41
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H'aanit has the second lowest physical defence (in front of Primrose) but the second highest evasion (behind Therion, and tied with Primrose). I went through most of chapter 2 and 3 with almost nothing being able to hit her, don't know if +evasion is going to become less useful later though.
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Jul 31, 2018 13:44
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Yeah I mean honestly you may need to grind a tiny bit extra but nothing in this game is insurmountable with any party
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Jul 31, 2018 13:48
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Pick whatever subjobs makes your characters look the coolest. As long as you have diversity in your jobs it doesn't really matter who has what until you do the job bosses or whatever.
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Jul 31, 2018 13:48
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Alright thanks all
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Jul 31, 2018 13:49
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Is Bewildering Dance the only way to buff the whole party actually? I do like using it every once in a while to try to fish for the EXP/JP bonuses (especially since Olberic flexes when he dances).
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Empress Brosephine posted:Thanks for the reply. So it seems like I’d probably be better off then going haanit Cyrus therion olphillia then. I guess with warrior job haanit might be able to kinda tank? I mean, there isn't really "tanking," but Warrior H'aanit will hit like a goddamn truck so that's still a great idea. It's worth noting that if you want to get the ~true ending~ you're going to need to finish all eight characters' stories so you'll be using everyone anyway. If you switch things around along the way, no big deal. ApplesandOranges posted:Is Bewildering Dance the only way to buff the whole party actually? I do like using it every once in a while to try to fish for the EXP/JP bonuses (especially since Olberic flexes when he dances). Dancer's Divine skill makes (most) single-target abilities into multi-target for whoever has it cast on them. That applies to most targeted buffs (like Dancer's and Cleric's), but not self-target (like Merchant's Sidestep). To spread around self-targeted things, you need Runelord. Anyway that means you can do things like place Reflecting Veil on your whole party if you're fighting a spellcasting boss and make them blow themselves up with their own spells. It's just like in my
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ApplesandOranges posted:Is Bewildering Dance the only way to buff the whole party actually? I do like using it every once in a while to try to fish for the EXP/JP bonuses (especially since Olberic flexes when he dances). There's an advanced special in an advanced class that lets you take a spell that normally targets one ally and target them all. Also concoct has some party wide buffs like status immunity
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A.I. Borgland Corp posted:There's an advanced special in an advanced class that lets you take a spell that normally targets one ally and target them all. Also concoct has some party wide buffs like status immunity You're conflating the advanced class's skill with Dancer's. The advanced class's skill turns self-buffs into full party buffs.
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ApplesandOranges posted:Is Bewildering Dance the only way to buff the whole party actually? I do like using it every once in a while to try to fish for the EXP/JP bonuses (especially since Olberic flexes when he dances). Take Aim buffs everyone.
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I started playing the other day, and I've just hit a weird issue - not sure if its a scaling bug or I've just missed something important. Basically, I started as Therion and have been working my way around clockwise, and I am currently on Tressa's story. Outside of town I'm encountering Rock Tortoise enemies, which appear to have a regular amount of health, but I am completely incapable of doing more than about 5 damage to them, physical or magical, even while vulnerable. On top of this, they spam Spark, which does about 300 damage to everyone in the party. All the other enemies in the encounter are normal, and the danger level of the area is appropriate. Have I missed something, or are these completely bugged out?
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Jul 31, 2018 14:16
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There's follower summons that will give you party-wide buffs.
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Jul 31, 2018 14:21
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Myssu posted:I started playing the other day, and I've just hit a weird issue - not sure if its a scaling bug or I've just missed something important. What number do they have? In early areas I have occasionally seen like a "Birdian V" or whatever that seems out of place when most of the enemies are 2s or 3s.
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Jul 31, 2018 14:28
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I went up against warbringer, I brought an npc that raised party defenses and inflicted poisoned (I think it was a merchant in the nearby town), used blinding jars and that shackle ability thieves had, with over heal I didn't lose anybody. Level ranges were 56-47.
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Jul 31, 2018 14:39
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Is there any ability that blind people? I blinded a boss one but I think it was a lucky dance, don't know if there's a concoct that does it.
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Myssu posted:I started playing the other day, and I've just hit a weird issue - not sure if its a scaling bug or I've just missed something important. Some things are weaker to physical or magic. (Those are magic weak). I took the same path as you so you can kill them. Take a look at your scholar gear. DONT USE OPTIMIZE. It will try to balance his staff for physical and elemental attack. Which........... change out gear to buff elm. Attack. Use other to break and his with boosted magic.
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