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Gonna pile on the "this is a load of BS" talk. Bendis on Superman isn't amazing, but there is no way they are going this negative so fast. Mind you, I DO expect it to turn south if he doesn't bring in the benjamins. I was actually thinking about this this morning, but Bendis probably did what any sane person would do and ask for a lot of nice poo poo when jumping jobs (it's still the best and frankly ONLY way to substantially raise your salary in America). So, he probably is getting paid above and beyond what he was getting at Marvel with nicer benefits (whatever they may be) because, otherwise, why would he leave? So, I wouldn't be shocked if Bendis doesn't bring in the numbers they expect for them to eventually start getting buyer's remorse. But it hasn't even been a year and he's only done like 7 comics. That would be a dumb move on DC. If in 2 or 3 years he's not topping the charts, though, and Bendis might want to consider seeing if Marvel would take him back since DC will start thinking they overpaid.
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I have a lot of respect for what Bendis did in the early days of his Marvel run; his later work didn't really stand out as much, but I think that's in part due to the fact that he helped to set the tone. This Superman run so far has just been... honestly baffling to me, and no different from what they've been doing with the title for years, aside from the dialog. That might change as the run continues, but at the very least I'd expect him to be able to do more with the Daily Planet.
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Ooof. That's rough given that they tried hyping it up alongside all of the Post-Metal stuff.
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Ouch. Not surprised, though.
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I gave up after two issues. Ah well. Everything else is solicited up to 9 or 10, right? (I just checked Sideways and Silencer.) They'll probably last till 12. I know Lemire completed 12 scripts ahead of time for The Terrifics. edit: Unexpected started late. That could be cancelled at #6 next solicit. Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 22:50 on Jul 31, 2018 |
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Jul 31, 2018 22:43
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Surprising Immortal Men is ending after 6 issues. Personally I think if they were going to jack up the prices of their mainline books to industry standards, I'd have had the 'New Age of Heroes' as lower-priced to entry books. Not sure it would make a sales difference, but it sounds like a nice thought.
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#1: As best as I can tell, all of these books were/are priced at $2.99? #2: This was being discussed in another thread and while as an industry (or as Marvel and DC, I guess) undervalues/underpromotes artists, this New Age of Heroes thing at DC is also a pretty decent example of why (within the Big Two system of eternal monthly grinds and etc.) it's a lot easier to promote a new book by [writer] than [artist]. Case(s) in point: Curse of Brimstone by PHILIP TAN and justin jordan #1: Philip Tan & Justin Jordan #2: Philip Tan & Justin Jordan #3: Philip Tan & Justin Jordan #4: Philip Tan & Justin Jordan #5: Philip Tan & Justin Jordan #6: Philip Tan & Justin Jordan #7: Eduardo Pansica & Justin Jordan Damage by TONY DANIEL and robert venditti: #1: Tony Daniel & Robert Venditti #2: Tony Daniel & Robert Venditti #3: Tony Daniel & Robert Venditti #4: Cary Nord & Robert Venditti #5: Diogenes Neves & Robert Venditti #6: Larry Hama/Diogenes Neves & Robert Venditti #7: Tom Derenick/Diogenes Neves & Robert Venditti #8: Diogenes Neves & Robert Venditti #9: Diogenes NEves & Robert Venditti #10: Aaron Lopresti & Robert Venditti Immortal Men by JIM LEE and james tynion iv #1: Jim Lee/Ryan Benjamin and James Tynion IV #2: Ryan Benjamin and James Tynion IV #3: Ryan Benjamin and James Tynion IV #4: Tyler Kirkham and James Tynion IV #5: Tyler Kirkham and James Tynion IV #6: Tyler Kirkham and James Tynion IV New Challengers by ANDY KUBERT and scott snyder and aaron gillespie #1: Andy Kubert and Scott Snyder/Aaron Gillespie #2: Andy Kubert and Scott Snyder/Aaron Gillespie #3: Andy Kubert/V Ken Marion and Scott Snyder/Aaron Gillespie #4: V Ken Marion and Scott Snyder/Aaron Gillespie #5: V Ken Marion and Scott Snyder/Aaron Gillespie #6: V Ken Marion and Scott Snyder/Aaron Gillespie Sideways by KENNETH ROCAFORT and dan didio and justin jordan #1: Kenneth Rocafort and Dan Didio/Justin Jordan #2: Kenneth Rocafort and Dan Didio/Justin Jordan #3: Kenneth Rocafort and Dan Didio/Justin Jordan #4: Kenneth Rocafort and Dan Didio/Justin Jordan #5: Robert Gill and Justin Jordan #6: Carmine DiGiandomenico and Dan Didio #7: Kenneth Rocafort and Dan Didio #8: Kenneth Rocafort and Dan Didio #9: Max Raynor and Dan Didio Silencer by JOHN ROMITA JR and dan abnett #1: John Romita Jr. and Dan Abnett #2: John Romita Jr. and Dan Abnett #3: John Romita Jr. and Dan Abnett #4: Viktor Bogdanovic and Dan Abnett #5: Viktor Bogdanovic and Dan Abnett #6: Viktor Bogdanovic and Dan Abnett #7: Viktor Bogdanovic/Jonathan Glapion and Dan Abnett #8: Patrick Zircher and Dan Abnett #9: Patrick Zircher and Dan Abnett #10: Patrick Zircher and Dan Abnett Terrifics by IVAN REIS and jeff lemire #1: Ivan Reis and Jeff Lemire #2: Ivan Reis/Jose Luis and Jeff Lemire #3: Joe Bennett and Jeff Lemire #4: Doc Shaner and Jeff Lemire #5: Doc Shaner and Jeff Lemire #6: Joe Bennett and Jeff Lemire #7: Dale Eaglesham and Jeff Lemire #8: Dale Eaglesham and Jeff Lemire #9: Viktor Boganovic and Jeff Lemire The Unexpected by RYAN SOOK and steve orlando #1: Ryan Sook/Cary Nord and Steve Orlando #2: Cary Nord and Steve Orlando #3: Cary Nord and Steve Orlando #4: Cary Nord and Steve Orlando #5: Cary Nord and Steve Orlando So assuming all of the solicited issues (italicized) come out as advertised, this means that just barely over half of the issues of these books promoted and hyped us as "artist driven" and focused on the drawing power of the artists will have any content by the advertised creative driving force artist. And even that is skewed considering two books didn't even get a full issue drawn by the advertised CREATOR. Meanwhile the writers who were marketed to just be there to see the artist's vision through seem to be pretty consistently holding it down with a raft of fill-in artists. All of this is a good argument for artists who can to find projects outside of the monthly grind, really.
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In today's MM, we get either a page of Tom King interior art, or a great imitation by Mitch.
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Aug 1, 2018 13:19
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Jason's new design is interesting.    
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:Jason's new design is interesting. It's ugly as gently caress.
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Aug 1, 2018 15:55
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That crowbar is loving stupid.
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:Jason's new design is interesting.
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That's impressively bad.
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It's pretty clear that DC wants to cancel the book at this point.
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Ruzaii posted:So he’s Ermac? Pretty much. They aren't being exactly subtle about who's kicking the bucket in Heroes in Crisis 
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Rhyno posted:That crowbar is loving stupid. But you see in Batman 428 we see the Joker.... blah blah blah.
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X-O posted:But you see in Batman 428 we see the Joker.... blah blah blah. Reporting this, clearly DT has hacked XO's account.
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A crowbar in a sheath. Wow.
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Aug 1, 2018 17:18
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"I once got beat to death with a crowbar... Now it's my signature weapon!"
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Aug 1, 2018 17:21
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They've already done that plot. Like twice even.
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Aug 1, 2018 17:25
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Jason Todd somehow keeps getting worse and worse.
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hup posted:Jason Todd somehow keeps getting worse and worse. Todd is number 1 contender for "should have just remained dead", or at least stay a villain.
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frodnonnag posted:Todd is number 1 contender for "should have just remained dead", or at least stay a villain. Someone should bring back Uncle Ben as the Red Hood.
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Only good thing Jason is for now are scenes where Ace is stealing his jacket or dumb stuff like that when he's with the rest of the Batfamily.
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My gut reaction is to like it, but that's just because it looks like he stole half of Azrael's outfit, and frankly the last thing Azrael needs is to be associated with Jason Todd. Also, he needs a katana because it's more threatening than a crowbar? gently caress off, I'm running from both.
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That's not even a katana!
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I hope the little mask still occasionally gets drawn with a mouth in it.
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catlord posted:My gut reaction is to like it, but that's just because it looks like he stole half of Azrael's outfit, and frankly the last thing Azrael needs is to be associated with Jason Todd. It looks too much as a MK Ninja and the logo loving sucks (looks more like an angry penguin) but overall I like the design.
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Edgelord and the OutlawsDark_Tzitzimine posted:It looks too much as a MK Ninja and the logo loving sucks (looks more like an angry penguin) but overall I like the design. 
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Mr Hootington posted:Edgelord and the Outlaws  I just like when Jason's costumes have red hoodies. Medri's design was the best one though.  
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:
You can post "I just like Jason."
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:but overall I like the design. Lmfaooooooo...that's shocking.
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I still haven't seen a single Jason Todd fan other than DT and Tumblr kids that want to gently caress him.
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Roth posted:I still haven't seen a single Jason Todd fan other than DT and Tumblr kids that want to gently caress him. My sister likes him...but even she thinks this is dumb.
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Mr Hootington posted:You can post "I just like Jason." Not really. Most of his appearances in other books from the Batman group suck.
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I wish I gave half as much poo poo for Firestorm (my fave character) as DT gives for Jason Todd. It must be hard sometimes giving a gently caress for a character no one else cares about.
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Madkal posted:I wish I gave half as much poo poo for Firestorm (my fave character) as DT gives for Jason Todd. It must be hard sometimes giving a gently caress for a character no one else cares about. Keeping a series going for 7 years and counting proves a lot of people care though.
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:Keeping a series going for 7 years and counting proves a lot of people care though. You should post all the glowing reviews from all your random blogs again.
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Mr Hootington posted:You should post all the glowing reviews from all your random blogs again.  https://comicbookroundup.com/comic-books/reviews/dc-comics/red-hood-and-the-outlaws-(2016) You're welcome.
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