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Drunken Baker posted:I'm going to keep NMS installed for when I'm grotesquely hung over and just need something idle to do whilst dying on my couch. Possibly sarcasm, but NMS only exists on my pc for when I'm hungover and at the point that smoking more weed won't get me any higher. From this standpoint, it's been a wonderful success
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So after beating nier automata, yeah it was a cool and fun sci fi anime but nothing revolutionary. I saw a few videos on Yoko taro and his other games/plotlines and while there some interesting stuff in there, I'm not sure why anybody considers his work to be crazy deep or whatever. Also what's with his mannerisms? Dude thinks he's an anime, I hated those goobers in high school The game's plot is pretty good for video game standards, with a massive emphasis on the phrase "video game standards." They nailed a melancholic vibe really well, I'll grant them that I liked nier automata enough, definitely don't see myself replaying it ever. By the end I was insanely fed up with the 4 locations that make up the entirety of the game. I'll still take smaller, more focused and interesting games over large empty and generic worlds but god, I must have gone back to each area for different reasons a minimum of 8 times each The first half of the game was much more engrossing than the second half, mostly because things don't really go to terribly interesting places given the premise Meh, not a bad time for $30. Running around the ruined city with the area's signature theme playing was my favorite part of the game. Good atmosphere, not so great but still decently passable combat
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Aug 1, 2018 16:10
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Most people like Yoko Taro for the ambiance and willingness to do, for videogames, unexpected things. His masterpiece* is definitely the first Nier, but youd have the same complaints there but with a much more dire combat system. *Actual masterpiece is Time Crisis 2
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Aug 1, 2018 16:14
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Has there ever been a sequel or remaster where the selling-point is that the game is shorter because they cut down on the back-tracking and padding?
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Has there ever been a sequel or remaster where the selling-point is that the game is shorter because they cut down on the back-tracking and padding? Skyrim on the Alexa?
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Barudak posted:Most people like Yoko Taro for the ambiance and willingness to do, for videogames, unexpected things. His masterpiece* is definitely the first Nier, but youd have the same complaints there but with a much more dire combat system. The ambience was insanely good so yeah I can get behind that. It does lose its luster after running through the same area repeatedly, and route b really didn't help with that
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Has there ever been a sequel or remaster where the selling-point is that the game is shorter because they cut down on the back-tracking and padding?
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Aug 1, 2018 16:59
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Has there ever been a sequel or remaster where the selling-point is that the game is shorter because they cut down on the back-tracking and padding? In addition to the others, Dragon Quest 8
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Aug 1, 2018 17:09
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Has there ever been a sequel or remaster where the selling-point is that the game is shorter because they cut down on the back-tracking and padding? Red Faction Armageddon, and it was garbage.
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Aug 1, 2018 17:24
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Has there ever been a sequel or remaster where the selling-point is that the game is shorter because they cut down on the back-tracking and padding? Absolutely Windwaker. You get a sail that goes something like twice as fast, and the Triforce hunt at the end is basically non-existent.
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I played Nier Automata when it first came out and got to ending E. I promptly uninstalled it and regretted buying into the hype and paying full price. So I booted it up again this past weekend and I've been thinking about and I've come to the conclusion: This game is boring, ugly and the story sucks balls. Story stuff: The robots are evolving and creating Adam and Eve anime characters to be more human! The androids are trying to be more human too! The humans on the moon were dead/never existed the whole time! Androids and machines are all made from the same stuff and the differences between the two factions is an elaborate ruse! If we remake the androids we'll be stuck in a loop and only you can make the choices to break it! Even the lush green areas were de-saturated and sandy beige colored. There's fog everywhere. That game had a handful of moments that were really fun to play and a couple of moments that were beautiful looking, but those are just islands in a sea of boooooring.
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Yeah I was honestly mad at how...shallow the plot ended up being. I was waiting for cool or surprising twists but they never came...such a cool setup that leads nowhere. Maybe that's "the point" and if so, that's a stupid rear end point. That's what I get for getting invested into a video game plot! Yoko Taro you rear end! 
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Aug 1, 2018 22:08
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Not knowing what equipment my mind slaves have in Octopath is annoying. I ran out of summons for the person I had and was locked in a town doing a quest so I tried alluring someone in town. When you allure someone you can know what they use if their listed skill uses that weapon. But what if their skill is healing grape? What if its defense stance? I don't know what weapons they're using and in some cases, don't even know what their special ability does. And hell, sometimes they do some attacks that make me go "god drat I would've rather known about that one instead!". See the aforementioned healing grape guy, who just decided to pummel 3 random enemies out of nowhere. PS gently caress your healing grape on a fully healed party member and not the half dead tank you wanker
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The “twists” of Nier Automata aren the things that arent relevant for the characters because they are short sighted and self destructive. Whether that appeals to you that the story took some standard sci fi plot twists and purposefully subverted them gently to make them more depressing in a way the protagonists are oblivious to is completely a matter of taste but it does make the overall experience, especially with its repetitious structure, not feel particularly innovative story wise.
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How do you get all the way to ending E and just suddenly have the revelation that you hated the game? Did you hate-play routes A-D? I know that can be a facile observation ("lol you played a game you didn't enjoy") but for real, it takes almost 100 hours to get to the end of this one. Were you expecting a Shamamalan twist at the end that would redeem the whole experience?
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100 hours? It took me less than 30 dude.
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Eh, I'm a completionist, give or take Though 30 hours is still a lot of time spent on something making you miserable.
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Lmao yeah it took me 28 or so I didn't hate it, I actually really enjoyed route A a lot. The game only got worse from there though, and the last few sections were especially tedious. I stopped giving a poo poo after finishing route B and seeing that route C was more boring fights with tiny morsels of not at all interesting plot scattered between fetch quests The story certainly didn't get any better after route A I did get all the way to E in the hopes that it'd get better but yeah i personally never felt "miserable" playing it, just mildly disappointed towards the second half KingSlime has a new favorite as of 22:34 on Aug 1, 2018 |
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The latter half of the game is definitely a bit underdeveloped. I thought the route B playthrough was really excellent (as much as everyone hates on it) and the recontextualusation of 9S it provided was crazy important to the unfolding story. And the "oh we're straight-up the Nazis now" gut punch opener for the second half was loving insane. But after that there's sort of a pacing slowdown until the finale and I don't think it helps. I suppose whether or not it works for you is sort of personal but I bought it at full price and regret nothing.
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I liked it partially because I'm invested in the overarching story in Yoko Taro's fantasy setting. My only real disappointment with Nier Automata was still no concrete explanation for the city that got sent back in time. At least I finally got to play as some androids, though. The end of the game isn't as out there as Nier or Drakengard 1/3, but I never reached a point where I was annoyed with the game, although I took a couple days off playing Nier Automata between endings.
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Somfin posted:The latter half of the game is definitely a bit underdeveloped. I thought the route B playthrough was really excellent (as much as everyone hates on it) and the recontextualusation of 9S it provided was crazy important to the unfolding story. The start of route c is loving insane and one of my favourite gaming moments in years. It has its ups and downs for a while after that and maybe goes on a bit too long but i think it ends really well. It maybe worked for me because I just wasn't expecting the ending sequence to be so... warmhearted and hopeful, I guess
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i just wish in nier automata that you could murder 9s immediately and play the game without him, as he is the only bad thing about that game for me
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spit on my clit posted:i just wish in nier automata that you could murder 9s immediately and play the game without him, as he is the only bad thing about that game for me This guy totally ****s
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Deified Data posted:How do you get all the way to ending E and just suddenly have the revelation that you hated the game? Did you hate-play routes A-D? I read a thing that said ending E was the "real one". I have 32 hours on steam. I had a sunken cost thing going on where I paid full price, so goddamnit, I'm going to play the whole thing.
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KingSlime posted:So after beating nier automata, yeah it was a cool and fun sci fi anime but nothing revolutionary. I saw a few videos on Yoko taro and his other games/plotlines and while there some interesting stuff in there, I'm not sure why anybody considers his work to be crazy deep or whatever. Also what's with his mannerisms? Dude thinks he's an anime, I hated those goobers in high school
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FactsAreUseless posted:What's it like not to feel joy? I don’t think any part of Nier Automata induced joy, and I did like the game.
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RyokoTK posted:I don’t think any part of Nier Automata induced joy, and I did like the game.
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FactsAreUseless posted:What's it like not to feel joy? It's ok, it lets me work a metric fuckton without breaking down into inconsolable tears which isn't the worst deal during these lowly times, I guess
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Drunken Baker posted:I'm going to keep NMS installed for when I'm grotesquely hung over and just need something idle to do whilst dying on my couch. FWIW I think its one of those games really good for listening to audiobooks while playing. Simple enough to be fun, but not so demanding that it requires all of your attention, very chill. Sort of like Destiny, WoW, or Mount and Blade, certainly not for everyone but if you have the right mindset then it can be great.
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Has there ever been a sequel or remaster where the selling-point is that the game is shorter because they cut down on the back-tracking and padding? Mass Effect 2 replaces all of ME1's repetitive featureless planets with actual side content. It's not really shorter but it does have less padding. The later versions of Dark Souls (and all of the sequels) add in more teleport locations to cut down on backtracking.
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FactsAreUseless posted:I like it when robots suffer. I like to make Mega Man jump onto the spikes. The X Legacy Collection games have a lower difficulty option where falling onto spikes is no longer instant death.
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That the music for Lego Racers when you're building a car still loops in my head. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DszKkZAsbA Almost 20 goddamn years.
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muscles like this! posted:The X Legacy Collection games have a lower difficulty option where falling onto spikes is no longer instant death.
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Why, oh why, does Monster Hunter World map “put weapon away” to square, a button that has been the “attack” button on a lot of games for a long time, with no option to remap controls?
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Len posted:That the music for Lego Racers when you're building a car still loops in my head. I really liked the intro to Lego Racer's 2 where Rocket Racer, down and out after his defeat, finds the flyer for the Intergalactic Racing Tournament and decides to enter - he starts out in a basic lovely boxy car and as he passes the other racers his car rebuilds itself so he's back to his hypercar from the end of the first game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3RDjSIjxmw BioEnchanted has a new favorite as of 06:20 on Aug 2, 2018 |
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SwissDonkey posted:Possibly sarcasm, but NMS only exists on my pc for when I'm hungover and at the point that smoking more weed won't get me any higher. From this standpoint, it's been a wonderful success Bushmaori posted:FWIW I think its one of those games really good for listening to audiobooks while playing. No sarcasm and this is exactly what I plan to do Saturday/Sunday morning.
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The Banner Saga 3 is out! It has two battles back to back that force you to, in some way, use Dytch, your stealth guy who you may not have used at all in the previous game. He's auto-levelled up to a reasonable point but it's still an annoying point of "oh what seriously, I have to use this guy twice?" Also, random CYOA-segment character permadeaths are still around. Also my save didn't properly import that I had the dredge baby! Either that or I didn't pick it up properly, or the import failed somewhere along the way. Either way I'm glad I could just manually edit my save file to put it in, because guess what - no dredge baby, then you lose the opportunity to pick up a character and depending on a choice you make - a choice several reasonable NPCs tell you to do - you lose an important character.
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Has there ever been a sequel or remaster where the selling-point is that the game is shorter because they cut down on the back-tracking and padding? Ugly In The Morning posted:Why, oh why, does Monster Hunter World map “put weapon away” to square, a button that has been the “attack” button on a lot of games for a long time, with no option to remap controls?
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OK I beat the Banner Saga 3 and come on I know you're an indie developer with financial woes and needed to kickstart the game. But getting your lowest-paid writer to do a little epilogue, Fire Emblem style, for each of the remaining living characters, is the least you could do. There's not even support conversations - you can make every character independent of every other character so there's only one single paragraph - or even long sentence - for each one. To just end on "welp that's the end here's a little ending cutscene" leaves the game on an abrupt note even for big fans.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:Why, oh why, does Monster Hunter World map “put weapon away” to square, a button that has been the “attack” button on a lot of games for a long time, with no option to remap controls? Because that's how it is. It doesn't do 'conventions'. Plus it's been that way since, like, the second game in the series (the first one used the right analog stick to attack by pressing different directions so...be glad they changed that at least). Changing it at this point would be a nightmare. Lack of remapping controls is honestly a console problem in general. No idea why so few games implement the ability to do that.
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