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Jul 29, 2018 18:09
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Lampert might have this
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Jul 29, 2018 18:09
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Oooof they got him but thats a scare.
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Jul 29, 2018 18:10
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Yes! Anyone but Demare! e: and yeah, that was the best solo attempt on the Champs d'Elysees in a long time
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Jul 29, 2018 18:10
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Totally thought he had that at 500 to go
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Jul 29, 2018 18:10
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Skarsnik posted:Totally thought he had that at 500 to go I think if they'd have waited 5 more seconds to chase him down he might have done it, they got him with 150 to go.
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Jul 29, 2018 18:11
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That overhead shot of them closing the gap to Lampaert in the final straight was incredible. Thought Demare was gonna steal that at the end, thank gently caress.
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Jul 29, 2018 18:11
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Noice, Dege got second. I'm gonna say it: this was a bad Tour, like all Tours, but it wasn't the worst. The Roubaix stage was great and the Tourmalet stage was surprisingly entertaining, even though almost nothing of consequence happened. Just gotta ignore Sky like always
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Jul 29, 2018 18:17
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The Roubaix stage was brilliant, The Sky train controls the mountains, but this is the third tour in a row that they've really won in the first week.
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Jul 29, 2018 18:27
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There were a whole load of brilliant stages, but there's just no one with their poo poo together enough to challenge sky at the moment
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Jul 29, 2018 18:43
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lmao, trying to name all your team mates in your victory speech but being unable to is genuinely endearing somehow e: the mic drop wiped all of that out. gently caress off
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Jul 29, 2018 18:51
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Enjoy some sponsored content https://twitter.com/AstanaTeam/status/1023628450475765760?s=19 Vino's face is how I always look when I watch cycling
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Jul 29, 2018 18:59
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Everyone seems so genuinely happy that G won its quite nice.
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Jul 29, 2018 20:10
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Will Froome retire in a huff?
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Jul 29, 2018 20:28
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TobinHatesYou posted:In the end Dumoulin loses the TdF because of one flat just outside the last 3km of an early stage. Why teams don’t use tubeless at least for flat stages is beyond my comprehension.
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Jul 29, 2018 20:28
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serious gaylord posted:Everyone seems so genuinely happy that G won its quite nice. I don't know if you watched the ITV coverage but they were broadcasting from my local bike café and it was heaving, the maindy flyers are going to have a bumper crop of applicants this year
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Jul 29, 2018 20:33
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Skarsnik posted:I don't know if you watched the ITV coverage but they were broadcasting from my local bike café and it was heaving, the maindy flyers are going to have a bumper crop of applicants this year I saw it on BBC news this morning and it looked ace. Also Lawson Craddock is the only rider ever to be the latern rouge for every stage of the tour. The lad was last from the first stage to the end. I don't think that record will ever be beaten.
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Jul 30, 2018 14:04
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He got to ride the ultimate low-pressure safe race.
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Jul 30, 2018 22:41
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EF earnt the least money from the tour, they got 14,000 euros in prize money. Sky for comparison got 720,000.
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Jul 31, 2018 07:37
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The riders need to step up and unionize.
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Jul 31, 2018 08:44
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With rider salaries, mechanics and any other staff EF probably spent at least 100,000 euros to just ride the tour.
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Jul 31, 2018 08:49
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Sponsors money who ended up getting a fair bit more exposure because of him though It's not like they are set up to make actual cash for their sponsors
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Jul 31, 2018 09:50
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Skarsnik posted:Sponsors money who ended up getting a fair bit more exposure because of him though Also, one mention of Team EF Education First–Drapac powered by Cannondale is more screen times than ten mentions of Sky.
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Jul 31, 2018 11:12
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TobinHatesYou posted:The riders need to step up and unionize. They really need to do this. Freakonomics Radio has a rather interesting interview with Lance Armstrong and they touch on this issue: http://freakonomics.com/podcast/lance-armstrong/
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Aug 1, 2018 00:54
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accipter posted:They really need to do this. Doesn't get much clearer than this: quote:So the athletes in U.F.C. apparently get around 8 to 10 percent of total revenues. Whereas in the N.F.L. it’s about 50 percent, it’s been as high as 60 percent.
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Aug 1, 2018 07:27
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You can't really compare cycling to any other professional sport though can you. Its an event that outside of track has no way for organisers to charge for attending it so by that nature they miss out on so much revenue. I'm not saying the revenue they do get couldn't be better shared out, but if you're not generating 100-200 thousand every time they race from people coming to watch it makes things a lot more difficult.
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Aug 1, 2018 08:18
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Also who are they unionising against? It's not like the teams are withholding massive pots of cash from the riders. Negotiation with ASO seems like it could me more effectively done at the team level than the rider level. Any kind of rider holdout/strike and I imagine that half the teams would collapse in short order. I'm sure I read an article recently that estimated TV revenue sharing from all organisers on the most generous believable terms would likely result in about €1.5m a year to World Tour teams. Certainly helpful but maybe about a tenth of their funding for most teams.
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Aug 1, 2018 08:54
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I think in the next few years you'll see a want for ticketed entry to summit finishes and maybe the biggest climbs in grand tours. Both from a safety and revenue making stand point. The logistics of which i'm sure are impossible to do or they would have been done already.
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Aug 1, 2018 09:12
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https://twitter.com/inrng/status/1024431310583021568?s=19 So now we know who exactly told him to shut the gently caress up about Demare
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Aug 1, 2018 09:28
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serious gaylord posted:I think in the next few years you'll see a want for ticketed entry to summit finishes and maybe the biggest climbs in grand tours. Both from a safety and revenue making stand point. That's not going to happen in France, it's political suicide. (Unless maybe it's happening in Italy and Spain first and municipalities are making a lot of money from it.)
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Aug 1, 2018 10:18
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Stadium/arena sports in the US really don’t care that much about gate receipts. The income from thst isn’t nothing, but it is completely dwarfed by TV contract money. The problem for cycling is you have nearly 180 pros in any single event and it’s honestly a horribad TV product with only a handful of races most people really follow.
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Aug 1, 2018 10:47
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serious gaylord posted:I think in the next few years you'll see a want for ticketed entry to summit finishes and maybe the biggest climbs in grand tours. Both from a safety and revenue making stand point. Having been to a TDF summit finish I don’t think it is feasible, it would require US army level logistics Even just putring barriers on the big climbs would require a huge fleet of trucks and workers
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Aug 1, 2018 18:15
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African AIDS cum posted:Having been to a TDF summit finish I don’t think it is feasible, it would require US army level logistics Which is why I assume they haven't done it before now. I dunno, just something will have to change in the sport to get more money to the teams. Quickstep still haven't found new sponsors and while its unlikely they won't get anyone, it might not be the same amount of money they had before. Same as what happened at Cannondale and BMC.
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Aug 1, 2018 18:49
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idgaf about the money, in fact we should ban professional sport altogether
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Aug 1, 2018 18:54
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serious gaylord posted:Which is why I assume they haven't done it before now. I dunno, just something will have to change in the sport to get more money to the teams. Quickstep still haven't found new sponsors and while its unlikely they won't get anyone, it might not be the same amount of money they had before. Same as what happened at Cannondale and BMC. I know what you mean, the economic model of the sport is pretty dated, for me that is part of the charm though. I think there is a lot they could do to make tv coverage more compelling like using more on bike cameras and power data etc
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Aug 1, 2018 19:02
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African AIDS cum posted:I know what you mean, the economic model of the sport is pretty dated, for me that is part of the charm though. I think there is a lot they could do to make tv coverage more compelling like using more on bike cameras and power data etc Theres no reason on stages that happen in a small enough era, time trials and crit stages essentially shouldn't have far more television data support ala F1. Cyclists are all fuckin nerds and having exact power data during time trials would be much nicer than the weird sanitised data we currently get from the Giro.
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Aug 1, 2018 19:18
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Some people say the teams don't want to release power data because competitive advantage though. I'm trying to determine why that would be. If I know Froome can put out 400w all day long during a time trial and win the stage, how does that help competitors? Maybe if a competitor gets info passed to him that Froome is currently putting out 550w on another stage and is in the lead, I guess they would know it's not sustainable for long-but what's that really going to do? If he breaks away, he breaks away. I was going through some prior articles on dcrainmaker and it looks like in 2010 Team HTC-Columbia was releasing all their data to a site where people could go view how they were doing in real time (https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2010/07/behind-scenes-of-team-htc-columbia-and.html) so it's been done before. The article talks about how the team riders were apparently all for it, but then some of the comments mentioned something about UCI banning the phone relay which helped transmit the data, so maybe that's what killed it? nwin fucked around with this message at 19:32 on Aug 1, 2018 |
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Aug 1, 2018 19:29
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Well for one thing you're not gonna be able to bluff in any way, the poker face up a climb is a bit of an art in itself
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Aug 1, 2018 19:33
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Skarsnik posted:Well for one thing you're not gonna be able to bluff in any way, the poker face up a climb is a bit of an art in itself Yeah I remember Lance Armstrong talking a bit about that in last year's podcast during the tour. He was of the mind that you might get away with it once, but after that people would be wise to you.
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Aug 1, 2018 19:35
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nwin posted:Yeah I remember Lance Armstrong talking a bit about that in last year's podcast during the tour. He was of the mind that you might get away with it once, but after that people would be wise to you. why the gently caress are you listening to Lance Armstrong
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Aug 1, 2018 19:50
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