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Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Concerned Citizen posted:

rip kara eastman and randy bryce i guess

weird i can't find either of these names on obama's list of endorsements :shrug:

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Calibanibal
Aug 25, 2015

I will never vote for an conservative dont care even if they dmeocrap. Except maybe bernie

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

Raskolnikov38 posted:

weird i can't find either of these names on obama's list of endorsements :shrug:

i thought we were talking about red-to-blue candidates

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Concerned Citizen posted:

i thought we were talking about red-to-blue candidates

i meant the obama endorsed red-to-blue ones

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/DavidKlion/status/1024751093295853568
https://twitter.com/DavidKlion/status/1024753848701935616

Lambert
Apr 15, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
Fallen Rib
lol @ getting mad at some HuffPo article about 12 anonymous people allegedly saying something meaningless like "her comments could be a factor" about donating for an election that is years away.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
poo poo this is a couple days old but im just seeing it now

Prosecutors decline to file charges against political donor in fatal overdose of Gemmel Moore

quote:

Prosecutors have declined to file charges against prominent Democratic donor Ed Buck in connection with the fatal overdose last summer of a 26-year-old man at Buck’s West Hollywood home, citing insufficient evidence, according to court records.

In a document dated Thursday, the Los Angeles County district attorney’s office said that the “admissible evidence is insufficient to prove beyond a reasonable doubt” that Buck gave Gemmel Moore drugs or is responsible for the man’s July 2017 death.

***

Los Angeles County coroner's officials had concluded that Moore died from an accidental methamphetamine overdose in Buck’s Laurel Avenue apartment, which was littered with drug paraphernalia. Paramedics found Moore naked on a mattress in the living room, the coroner’s report said.

They ruled Moore's death an accident, and an initial review by sheriff’s deputies found nothing suspicious. But in August 2017, homicide detectives launched a new investigation after Moore’s mother and friends questioned whether the drugs that killed him were self-administered.

A notebook found in Moore’s possession indicated he used drugs with someone whose name is redacted in the coroner’s report. The Times has reviewed pages of that journal, in which Moore purportedly wrote about using crystal methamphetamine.

“Ed Buck is the one to thank,” Moore appears to have written. “He gave me my first injection of chrystal [sic] meth.”

Moore's mother, LaTisha Nixon of Texas, had questioned whether Buck’s ties to elected officials and differences in race and class influenced the investigation. Buck, who is 63 and white, is a longtime political donor, onetime West Hollywood City Council candidate and a well-known figure in LGBTQ political circles. Moore, who was black, had been homeless and had worked as an escort.

Homicide investigators presented their case to prosecutors July 10. The district attorney’s office reviewed and rejected four charges: murder, voluntary manslaughter, and furnishing and possessing drugs.

I remember when this broke but have seen basically nothing about it since then.

Fleetwood
Mar 26, 2010


biggest hochul head in china
Anyone have a link to the rural poverty thread? I lost track of that motherfucker and I'm too schumered to find it

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


functionally its the "Trump voters realizing they're going to die under Trump thread"

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005


how brave of him to endorse the dem slate in illinois that was nominated several months ago.

Fleetwood
Mar 26, 2010


biggest hochul head in china
let's be honest- the bravest thing obama ever did was tell bourdain that it's never ok to put ketchup on a hot dog

Spatula City
Oct 21, 2010

LET ME EXPLAIN TO YOU WHY YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT EVERYTHING

on the upside, if Gillibrand is now mortal enemies with Soros and the Clintonites, there's a good chance she'll have no choice but to align with the more leftward elements in the Democratic Party, and she will have to further un-succ. also she had to know speaking out against Franken was going to be a net negative, and she did it anyway. The people saying she did it for political calculation are diabolical shitheads, and sort of the same kind of people that would write "HAS METOO GONE TOO FAR THIS TIME?!!" editorials.

not saying Gillibrand isn't pretty succ, but I've thought for a while her as president would be a better case scenario than Harris, Booker, or any of the other posturing frauds by a wide margin.

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

Franken will return and probably get a shitload of power.

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool

Spatula City posted:

on the upside, if Gillibrand is now mortal enemies with Soros and the Clintonites, there's a good chance she'll have no choice but to align with the more leftward elements in the Democratic Party, and she will have to further un-succ. also she had to know speaking out against Franken was going to be a net negative, and she did it anyway. The people saying she did it for political calculation are diabolical shitheads, and sort of the same kind of people that would write "HAS METOO GONE TOO FAR THIS TIME?!!" editorials.

not saying Gillibrand isn't pretty succ, but I've thought for a while her as president would be a better case scenario than Harris, Booker, or any of the other posturing frauds by a wide margin.

nah her strategy wills till be just fake being left enough to squeeze out votes from both sides then turn into an 80s republican the second the primary is over and all the donors have to align with her anyway

Probably Magic
Oct 9, 2012

Looking cute, feeling cute.

Spatula City posted:

on the upside, if Gillibrand is now mortal enemies with Soros and the Clintonites, there's a good chance she'll have no choice but to align with the more leftward elements in the Democratic Party, and she will have to further un-succ. also she had to know speaking out against Franken was going to be a net negative, and she did it anyway. The people saying she did it for political calculation are diabolical shitheads, and sort of the same kind of people that would write "HAS METOO GONE TOO FAR THIS TIME?!!" editorials.

not saying Gillibrand isn't pretty succ, but I've thought for a while her as president would be a better case scenario than Harris, Booker, or any of the other posturing frauds by a wide margin.

Yeah, for me, it goes like, (1) Bernie, (2) some young leftist candidate who won't run like nina turner, (3) Warren, and then Gillibrand before we get into the cut-off territory for me.

I don't think Harris will advance to be fair because she's incapable of talking in stats like her audience is Amazon execs. But the Democratic Party is exactly the type of party who thinks Corey Booker is still as popular and well-liked as he was in 2010.

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

Willa Rogers posted:

how brave of him to endorse the dem slate in illinois that was nominated several months ago.

At least he didn't endorse lipinski

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Fleetwood posted:

let's be honest- the bravest thing obama ever did was tell bourdain that it's never ok to put ketchup on a hot dog

I dunno, that tan suit took bravery. Misplaced bravery, but ya know.

Fleetwood
Mar 26, 2010


biggest hochul head in china
Obama wore the tan suit to distract from the Michael Brown shooting

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009
Michael Not-So-Brown.

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

mastershakeman posted:

At least he didn't endorse lipinski

he prolly will in his second-round endorsements.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)
Gillibrand is succ incarnate. she will never truly unsucc.

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



GalacticAcid posted:

poo poo this is a couple days old but im just seeing it now

Prosecutors decline to file charges against political donor in fatal overdose of Gemmel Moore


I remember when this broke but have seen basically nothing about it since then.

quote:

In a document dated Thursday, the Los Angeles County district attorney’s office said that the “admissible evidence is insufficient to prove beyond a reasonable doubt” that Buck gave Gemmel Moore drugs or is responsible for the man’s July 2017 death.

huh thats funny i was under the impression that the decision to file criminal charges was in fact not the exact same as that of conviction, and that a jury decides whether the evidence proves beyond a reasonable doubt and not the prosecutor

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Shear Modulus posted:

huh thats funny i was under the impression that the decision to file criminal charges was in fact not the exact same as that of conviction, and that a jury decides whether the evidence proves beyond a reasonable doubt and not the prosecutor

Prosecutors like to take cases they think they have even a slim chance of losing.

From whats presented this doesn't sound like a very good case for anything other than furnishing drugs and even that is probably going to be shot down by a good defense.

Fleetwood
Mar 26, 2010


biggest hochul head in china
Worth noting that Gilibrand's top contributor, Boies Schiller Flexner, is litigating against Iranian state assets in the UK for 9/11 attack damages.

https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2018-08-01/families-of-9-11-victims-look-to-seize-iran-assets-in-britain

They also represent Harvey Weinstein and Thereanos. Their partners jump ship to go work for credit card companies and they are currently pursuing a $11B+ bitcoin case in FL.

Mostly, she's a Wall St croney, but she also gets lots of assistance from Big Pharma and real estate developers. I'd put her a notch above Booker and Harris but she still tips the succ scale

e: here's her opensecrets page for reference:

https://www.opensecrets.org/members-of-congress/summary?cid=N00027658&cycle=CAREER

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
No Flexner Zone

Fleetwood
Mar 26, 2010


biggest hochul head in china
she's doo doo don't touch the doo doo

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



oh yeah i should post this here too

are you guys ready for the :siren: :frogsiren: :siren: :frogsiren: :siren: ONE-TERM PLEDGE!!!!!! :siren: :frogsiren: :siren: :frogsiren: :siren:

quote:

Biden, Not Warren

While I agree that Elizabeth Warren has tremendous gifts that would make her a very good president, I think if the Democrats select her in 2020, we will have made a great mistake. Run a ticket of Joe Biden, and as vice president, one of the very strong, upcoming young leaders within the party, such as Kamala Harris of California, Cory Booker of New Jersey, etc. With his long experience in national government, Biden should run on “let’s fix what’s wrong with government” and what Trump wrecked (because by 2020 it will be A LOT!). He would pledge to serve one term, and he would have as his second major task, to work with and groom the vice president to run for president and win in 2024. We ought not to overlook Joe’s attractiveness as president: His easy manner, deep connections, both domestic and international, long experience, and what he could teach the vice president. The one term answers the age issue, and gives Democrats a start on 2024.
— CalSailor, California

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/01/opinion/trump-2020-elizabeth-warren.html

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

Fleetwood posted:

Worth noting that Gilibrand's top contributor, Boies Schiller Flexner, is litigating against Iranian state assets in the UK for 9/11 attack damages.

https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2018-08-01/families-of-9-11-victims-look-to-seize-iran-assets-in-britain

They also represent Harvey Weinstein and Thereanos. Their partners jump ship to go work for credit card companies and they are currently pursuing a $11B+ bitcoin case in FL.

Mostly, she's a Wall St croney, but she also gets lots of assistance from Big Pharma and real estate developers. I'd put her a notch above Booker and Harris but she still tips the succ scale

e: here's her opensecrets page for reference:

https://www.opensecrets.org/members-of-congress/summary?cid=N00027658&cycle=CAREER

but cc has reassured us she's the most progressive who ever progressived.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 25 days!)

Shear Modulus posted:

oh yeah i should post this here too

are you guys ready for the :siren: :frogsiren: :siren: :frogsiren: :siren: ONE-TERM PLEDGE!!!!!! :siren: :frogsiren: :siren: :frogsiren: :siren:


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/01/opinion/trump-2020-elizabeth-warren.html

reading this thread is giving me an ulcer

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
trump would beat biden

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
i guess i should say will

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



Pener Kropoopkin posted:

reading this thread is giving me an ulcer

theres one person who correctly says that bernie will win and then to balance it out of course the fialing nytimes has to add in 8 people with brain worms

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

galenanorth
May 19, 2016


2008: America needs a qualified candidate, a candidate with boatloads of POLITICAL EXPERIENCE even if it's experience making bad decisions
2020: America needs a candidate who without any political experience but who has plenty of experience in how to manipulate your GUT

Issues and things that would be done in office? Who needs those? :shepface:

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

galenanorth posted:

2008: America needs a qualified candidate, a candidate with boatloads of POLITICAL EXPERIENCE even if it's experience making bad decisions
2020: America needs a candidate who without any political experience but who has plenty of experience in how to manipulate your GUT

Issues and things that would be done in office? Who needs those? :shepface:

clearly not voters in swing states

nah
Mar 16, 2009

these absolute buffoons think Trump won only because he was famous and not because of his right wing populism

CountFosco
Jan 9, 2012

Welcome back to the Liturgigoon thread, friend.
I think I've reached the point where the only politician who would surprise me if they had been sexually harassing is Dennis Kucinich.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 25 days!)

Now if you'll all look under your seats, you'll find - A NEW TAX CREDIIIIIT!!!

YOU GET A TAX CREDIT!

AND YOU GET A TAX CREDIT!

AND YOU GET A TAX CREDIT!

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

nah posted:

these absolute buffoons think Trump won only because he was famous and not because of his right wing populism

I mean, it certainly didn't hurt.

People want to blame Comey, instead blame loving Murk Burnett for giving Donald a platform of being on TV as the Biggest and Bestest Boss for a decade.

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anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool

nah posted:

these absolute buffoons think Trump won only because he was famous and not because of his right wing populism

there are like literaly a dozen factors that went into trump winning and they choose to address none of them its absolutely incredible

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