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What're the best non-smart tvs around these days? Kind of skeeved off buying a smart one after reading this: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/05/business/media/tv-viewer-tracking.html
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Jul 31, 2018 20:50
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Jul 31, 2018 20:51
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mila kunis posted:What're the best non-smart tvs around these days? Kind of skeeved off buying a smart one after reading this: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/05/business/media/tv-viewer-tracking.html
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Jul 31, 2018 20:55
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Just don't connect the TV to Wi-Fi/Internet if you're worried about all that.
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Jul 31, 2018 20:57
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Yo, I think I'm going to get a 43" tv (the 49" tv would be hilariously oversized in our 500' apt). Anyways, I can't decide between the Sony x800e and the x720e? Any reason I should pay ~$150 more for the former over the latter. I like to watch a lot of dark (color) movies and play lots of fast action video games, if it matters.
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Jul 31, 2018 21:08
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mila kunis posted:What're the best non-smart tvs around these days? Kind of skeeved off buying a smart one after reading this: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/05/business/media/tv-viewer-tracking.html Unplug it from the internet. You are not paying more for smart tv functionally, hell you are probably paying less because i guarantee the manufacturer gets a kickback from amazon and netflix.
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Jul 31, 2018 22:09
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Engadget claims the Z9F doesn't suffer from off-axis color and contrast shift. That's impressive if true.
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Jul 31, 2018 23:26
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The thread title should read something to the effect of "All good TVs are smart TVs now. Next question".
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Aug 1, 2018 18:39
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angryrobots posted:The thread title should read something to the effect of "All good TVs are smart TVs now. Next question".
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Aug 1, 2018 18:42
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Put something about rtings.com and we can call it a wrap.
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Aug 1, 2018 18:55
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GreenNight posted:So my girlfriend dad is disabled and we want to get him a new TV that has good voice controls or can be controlled via a Google Home device. Simple stuff like turn tv on, turn up volume, change channel to 17, etc. Any recommendations? The TCL does voice control if you hold a button on the remote down but that's not good enough. Ok so I hooked up the Fire TV Cube last night and it works pretty great. You can full operate your TV, even turning on from the off state, change channels, switch to FireTV and back to cable... all with voice. You can control volume increments for the volume command... things like that. Would recommend. Biggest challenge, for me with my godmother and ALS at least, is that it's placement has to be by the TV. Seems obvious but then you have to take into account voice projection and room size. Good news is that, unlike my old Echo + Harmony combo, when you request something, it mutes the TV temporarily so it can hear you. Since you're inevitably placing it by TV speakers/Soundbars this is nice. You also, at the moment at least, cannot link a dot to it to relay the command (so I can't put a dot by my godmother's bed just in case the cube can't hear her from a distance for whatever reason). You also cannot make Alexa Calls from it at the moment either (probably not a big deal for you but is hindering the functionality I currently want). But for just straight TV voice control... it's very nice.
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Aug 2, 2018 15:02
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Perfect! Thank you very much.
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Aug 2, 2018 15:08
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Oh also make sure that if you have any other rigged together systems (for instance my harmony and older dot) that you unlink all of those commands. That includes uninstalling the Alexa Skill AND making sure you remove the "scenes" or whatever. My old Harmony commands were generic like "turn on the tv" etc and the Fire TV cube was trying to give seniority to that command instead of it's own and it got confused. Once I completely removed all traces of the Harmony from the Alexa app, it worked fine. But if you have no current system at all in place, it should work fine from the get go.
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Aug 2, 2018 15:59
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She has a Google Home but it's not hooked up to anything except the internet for weather and phone calls.
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Aug 2, 2018 16:00
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Ugh, I am itching to buy the 6-series 55" TCL but I am struggling to pull the trigger and drop $600 on something that will be instantly worth close to zero if I wanted to resell it. I hate commitments costing that much. I guess I did it with my smartphone but that feels different because I'm using it a ton every day. My TV I'll mostly be using on the weekends. :-/ Plus a smartphone can easily be resold if my priorities change.
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Aug 2, 2018 16:42
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Something Offal posted:Ugh, I am itching to buy the 6-series 55" TCL but I am struggling to pull the trigger and drop $600 on something that will be instantly worth close to zero if I wanted to resell it. I hate commitments costing that much. If you are that worried about it, shouldn’t you just look for a used version that is a couple years old? Profit off someone else’s changing priorities.
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Aug 2, 2018 17:00
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Haha but I want the BEST, you must understand my good Orvin. We already have some 42" Samsung large bezel LCD whatever from a few years ago. Sounds like a 2 year old TCL wouldn't be that big of a jump.
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Aug 2, 2018 17:10
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You could for sure sell that TCL for $150 or $200 in a few years.
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Aug 2, 2018 17:55
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Something Offal posted:Haha but I want the BEST, you must understand my good Orvin. If you really want the best, then it's not the TCL. I mean, it's pretty good bang for your buck, but a good OLED will retain a better resale value, though you'll be paying significantly more for it.
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Aug 2, 2018 18:12
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Something Offal posted:Ugh, I am itching to buy the 6-series 55" TCL but I am struggling to pull the trigger and drop $600 on something that will be instantly worth close to zero if I wanted to resell it. I hate commitments costing that much. How long do you keep your TVs? I kept my last one for 10 years and will probably use it for close to that. So who cares if it’s worthless in a resale situation?
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Aug 2, 2018 18:25
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qbert posted:If you really want the best, then it's not the TCL. I mean, it's pretty good bang for your buck, but a good OLED will retain a better resale value, though you'll be paying significantly more for it. What's the thread-consensus best bang for buck OLED in the 55" range? The bang-for-buck of the TCL for $600 is a big factor. I'm close to pulling the trigger. I don't know gret I just have a natural aversion to making a commitment for a length of time like that. But I want a nice screen to ogle at the same time.
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Aug 2, 2018 19:02
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I'm not really up on the latest OLED specs but I'd assume that a C7 would be considered the best value at the moment.
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Aug 2, 2018 19:11
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There are enough longevity improvements on the 8 series that I wouldn't consider a 7 series at this point unless it was severely discounted.
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Aug 2, 2018 19:17
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American McGay posted:I'm not really up on the latest OLED specs but I'd assume that a C7 would be considered the best value at the moment. I think the B7 is even cheaper and basically the same, so I'd give that best value personally. bull3964 posted:There are enough longevity improvements on the 8 series that I wouldn't consider a 7 series at this point unless it was severely discounted. Really? The only changes I read about in the 8 series were black frame insertion and Google Assistant integration, neither of which would be enough to get me to pay the upgrade difference.
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Aug 2, 2018 19:20
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Argh a $2500-3000 step up. Oh well. I'll stick with the budget TCL. People often ask me (since they know I'm interested in decent quality) what the practical differences are between a ~$350 4K panel and a $600 one. I think the industry needs to do a better job at illustrating those differences. Terrible Best Buy setups don't help. I wish I could see the TCL somewhere before buying it first.. I think I'll talk to my local Best Buy about that. A specialty retailer near me with a good rep doesn't carry any TCLs... it definitely seems like something that's a great idea to purchase in person. Best Buy's return period would only be 14 days however.
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Aug 2, 2018 19:22
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Something Offal posted:Argh a $2500-3000 step up. Oh well. I'll stick with the budget TCL. The 55" B7 is currently $1700 on Amazon when I just checked. That's more like a $1100 step up, not $2500-3000.
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Aug 2, 2018 19:24
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qbert posted:The 55" B7 is currently $1700 on Amazon when I just checked. That's more like a $1100 step up, not $2500-3000. Whoops I was looking at https://www.amazon.com/LG-OLED65C8PUA-65-Inch-Ultra-Smart/dp/B079V3J3Y9/ref=dp_ob_title_ce , the poster above said C7. I wish I didn't hate spending on frivolous goodies.
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Aug 2, 2018 19:26
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qbert posted:Really? The only changes I read about in the 8 series were black frame insertion and Google Assistant integration, neither of which would be enough to get me to pay the upgrade difference.
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Something Offal posted:Whoops I was looking at https://www.amazon.com/LG-OLED65C8PUA-65-Inch-Ultra-Smart/dp/B079V3J3Y9/ref=dp_ob_title_ce , the poster above said C7. I wish I didn't hate spending on frivolous goodies. Yeah, that's the C8, and at 65". One thing about shopping for TVs, it's very easy to accidentally look at the wrong model/size from what you were intending and get confused on prices.
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Something Offal posted:
The answer there is almost always "The cheaper one is 4k resolution, but it is not UHD." Then say UHD is a combination of resolution, how many colors it can reproduce, and how bright it can get. So the cheaper TV only does one of the three things and most of the benefit of UHD is the other two. Really, if you have a functioning 1080p tv with a good picture, you get next to no benefit from buying a cheap 4k tv because resolution is the least important thing for UHD. You need to step up to one that supports wide color gamut and gets bright enough for HDR. Minimum buy in with all of those features right now is $600 with the TCL R series (and P series last year.) bull3964 fucked around with this message at 19:49 on Aug 2, 2018 |
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Aug 2, 2018 19:43
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High Definition Television: just buy the TCL you nerd
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Aug 2, 2018 19:43
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Bah, the bedroom tv I bought stayed at a rock solid $220 for 2 months until the moment we decide to get one for my mother in law and it jumps back up $100. It’s like Walmart did it just to spite me personally.
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Aug 2, 2018 19:57
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Can anyone comment on the quality of the Vizio P series? I'm considering getting this https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1407012-REG/vizio_p55_f1_p_series_55_4k_hdr.html or the 6 series TCL.
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ErikTheRed posted:Can anyone comment on the quality of the Vizio P series? I'm considering getting this https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1407012-REG/vizio_p55_f1_p_series_55_4k_hdr.html or the 6 series TCL. I'm sure the P series probably edges out the TCL, but at those price points, I'd probably save and go with the TCL.
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The P series is fairly well regarded. I haven't had a chance to see a TCL seeing they are something of a fairy tale in Canada but if its not too much more and in your budget, I'd go with the P. Much more fleshed out in terms of features I would imagine.
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I bought a LG UBK90 to pair with my LG B7a and woaaahhh Dolby Vision disc is incredible. A lot of gaming options too running my pc on “game mode” on 4k HDR is pretty amazing for Hitman. 1080p @ 120hz works pretty well as does 1080@60 HDR. Green Gloves fucked around with this message at 18:09 on Aug 5, 2018 |
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Aug 5, 2018 06:58
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Holy poo poo. I just tried to watch a season premiere on the big Samsung TV in the apartment common lounge. The sound quality was absolutely crap. I could barely follow the plot. My 39" TCL is way better than this.
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Aug 6, 2018 05:35
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All TV speakers are crap. Is there anything out there that will do 4K@120hz yet?
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Aug 6, 2018 11:48
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codo27 posted:All TV speakers are crap. Nothing that's sold as a TV. HDMI doesn't have even close to enough bandwidth in 2.0 form. The latest wave of top-end gaming monitors can do 4K120 4:4:4 and 4K144 4:2:2 over DisplayPort in the 27" range but that's it for now. The "BFGD" units nVidia has been pushing are basically the same thing with larger panels more in the TV size range, so that may be close enough for what you're looking for, but there are currently no official release dates AFAIK.
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wolrah posted:
I had actually forgotten about those, not that they will be in my price range in this lifetime
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