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H.H
Oct 24, 2006

August is the Cruelest Month
It's a coil of colored light above a city landscape at dusk.

E: Snyped as if it was my sister's wedding.

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kalel
Jun 19, 2012

I missed you H.H

Also raped goon, you should throw the cops and the rapists in a thunderdome and see who survives

H.H
Oct 24, 2006

August is the Cruelest Month
Oh, thank you.
It's been crazy with my new job and wedding planning lately, I barely have time for anything.

But it's nice to get back, I'll try to be more active even after loq returns if at all possible.

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva

H.H posted:

e:for some reason neither the img tag nor an attachment to the post is working, so you'll have to imagine the photoshop rather than seeing it.

mib intercepted it, the thread is hosed, get ur bug out bags b4 its too late

H.H
Oct 24, 2006

August is the Cruelest Month
Slow day at work so here is another couple of confessions:

quote:


I've made it through the thread and figured it was about time to post my own confession. Sorry in advance for the essay

I get frustrated at the current state of discourse surrounding trans people, and trans issues. I'm a bi cis dude, I don't mind penises or vaginas, I've been on dates with trans women (not trans men yet, I would like to give that a go), one of my uncles has transitioned and detransitioned in my lifetime, and currently I would say that 30-40% of the people I talk to daily are trans. Just getting the "my best friend is black" trope out of the way/trying to show that I'm not completely ignorant of trans people and their issues - the problems I have mostly stem from an inability to understand some facets of being trans.

I also have a close friend who is a self identified TERF. I don't agree with a lot of what she says, but there are some points that she raises that I would like to learn more about from a trans perspective. Actually, now that I think about it, there's a few things that I would like to ask my trans friends/acquaintances but I haven't really been able to come up with a way to phrase these things that fits within the ever shifting overton window of acceptable trans terminology.

So here's some things that I'd never ask with my name attached lest I get disowned by my friends (in case it's not obvious, when I refer to "trans people", I mean the trans people that I personally know or interact with):

* Gender vs Sex. Trans people claim that sex and gender are different. Sex being the physical/biological traits we're born with (male/female), and Gender being the identity we develop as we mature/grow (boy/girl/man/woman/etc). Trans people are people whose gender identity does not match their sex.
- If this is the case, why are trans women adamant they aren't male? Shouldn't maleness (sex) be okay if you're a woman (gender)?
- Why do trans women who sleep with cis women identify as lesbians, when lesbian is a homosexual orientation? If sex and gender are different, wouldn't trans women who sleep with cis women be heterosexual? Wouldn't trans women who sleep with males (trans women and cis men) be homosexual?
- Why do trans people experience body dysmorphia (resulting in top or bottom surgery) if gender isn't related to sex?
- My perception is that sex and gender are only separate when it's convenient for trans people.

* Dysphoria/dysmorphia. As a cis dude, I don't experience any gender dysphoria and I struggle to understand the concept. The way I understand my gender identity (and extrapolating from that for gender identity generally), is that my body is my body. It's the one I've got. Who I am and what I can do necessarily flows down from that. I don't understand determining my identity based on how I feel I should be (or should have been), but more from what I am and have done.
- Why do trans people undergo HRT to appear sexually male or female, when gender identity is different from sex?
- Doesn't attempting to transition from your assumed gender role to the "opposite" gender role reinforce the gender/sex binary?
- Wouldn't it be better to explore your identity and break down rigid gender roles while embracing your sex instead of trying to transform it?

* Nonbinary people. From what I understand these people want to claim the benefits of being trans (queer fashion, language, humour) without actually having to commit to the downsides (HRT, abuse, etc). The non-binary people I've interacted with have universally just been cis people, who act like cis people, but get mad when you refer to them other than "they"
- Isn't being a nonbinary person just a cis person who doesn't want to engage with (what they perceive to be) traditional gender roles?
- Wouldn't it be better to explore your identity and break down gender roles without making up bullshit justifications like "gendervoid"?

* Existing privilege. Like I mentioned, I'm a cis dude (have I mentioned it enough?) and for the last half-decade or so, I've been trying to read up on feminism and what I can do to be less of a piece of poo poo. I've read up a lot on male/white privilege, and I've spent a lot of long nights trying to come to understand how I've used/abused this in the past. It's been a hard path understanding how profoundly influential and pervasive patriarchy is in our society, and how it trains us to view women as objects instead of people (where's my cookie?!) but I feel that generally I have a good understanding of privilege and patriarchy.
- Why do trans women insist that they weren't socialised as male before they transitioned? From what I perceive, it seems that trans women have the idea that they've always been women, and always known that they're women, and therefore don't have any male privilege to work through
- How much does toxic masculinity affect whether someone transitions or not? How many trans women are bullied into thinking they're women because they don't fit into the boy/man roles that they perceive in others?

I'm not trolling with any of these questions, sorry if they seem phrased to be bait-y, I just don't know the way to ask these questions as kindly as I want to. Sorry I'm also focusing on trans women, they just are the majority in my life (seemingly in general), if I met more trans men I would probably have questions from their perspective also.

I see often that jibe of "it's not my job to educate you, look it up". But when I look up things like this, I tend to get resources from TERFy type blogs, or from cis people, not actual knowledge from trans people who can help enlighten, so if you have some resources to share, please link them instead of asking me to google, lest I end up appearing more of a transphobe than I already do.

Thanks for reading!

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I Scam people.
I am a scam artist and use the internet to fleece idiots of their money.

I recently started selling frozen meals that I’m claiming are based off Donald Trump’s diet and are the “anti Obama’s lunch”. It’s all loving bullshit of course.

But I’m freezing a burger patty and some fries with a bit of chocolate ice cream. Then I stick it in a fancy box, call it a MAGA Meal, and sell it to idiots for 10 dollars. I’m making almost 5000 dollars a month on these. I also make knockoff MAGA hats with peoples names on them, thats where the big money is.

I’m scared Trump is gonna die on the toilet because that’s my gravy train all gone.

H.H fucked around with this message at 08:59 on Aug 2, 2018

Theophany
Jul 22, 2014

SUCCHIAMI IL MIO CAZZO DA DIETRO, RANA RAGAZZO



2022 FIA Formula 1 WDC
Is it scamming people if you're actually providing a product? Sounds like what you're doing is a more profitable version of Trump Steaks.

Cubone
May 26, 2011

Because it never leaves its bedroom, no one has ever seen this poster's real face.
jesus christ stdh

H.H
Oct 24, 2006

August is the Cruelest Month
I wonder how much an authentic MAGA hat costs.

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva
$25 from trump
$2.50 from Alibaba express or whatever

Guarantee it's the exact same thing

yeah I eat ass
Mar 14, 2005

only people who enjoy my posting can replace this avatar
Holy poo poo, people in the airport wearing black suits? Obviously the MIB, what else would they be doing there? I wasn't sure if I believed in this conspiracy but I can't keep denying it in the face of such compelling evidence.

also selling knockoff products isn't "scamming". They are paying for a product, and getting exactly what you are selling. You could probably put anything in it and as long as there's an anti-obama message the same people would probably buy it. I'm sure they don't feel scammed, anyway.

yeah I eat ass fucked around with this message at 11:55 on Aug 2, 2018

H.H
Oct 24, 2006

August is the Cruelest Month

SniperWoreConverse posted:

$25 from trump
$2.50 from Alibaba express or whatever

Guarantee it's the exact same thing

Woah no wonder he's a billionaire

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

.
I'm not finding MAGA Meals on the internet. You're lying sir! WWTD?

kalel
Jun 19, 2012

Bi cis goon, I'm a white straight cis goon who's tried his best to research and understand the trans community, among other marginalized groups. The one thing I've determined is to never ever judge a group by their subreddit. Reddit represents the absolute worst and dumbest of humanity and should be avoided accordingly. The reason I say this is because, unfortunately, some people use the stupidity and insularity of Redditors (some of whom *happen to be* non cis or non straight) to justify statements like, "Trans people are crazy/stupid/have no critical thinking." See: any other subreddit, 4chan, any MAGA chud.

If you can, try to find a trans and/or non-binary person you trust to answer your questions, as awkward as you may feel about them. As long as you make it clear that you're coming from a place of ignorance and that you are attempting to learn and grow as a person, if they're your friend they probably won't mind. If they do mind, respect their wish and find someone else. If asking questions like these is enough for him or her to want to "unfriend" you, you probably wouldn't want to have been friends with that person in the first place.

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸
"cis-goon" is a horrifying concept

New Wave Jose
Aug 20, 2008

Splicer posted:

"cis-goon" is a horrifying concept

Why? You are not born and identify as a goon?

Super Waffle
Sep 25, 2007

I'm a hermaphrodite and my parents (40K nerds) named me Slaanesh, THANKS MOM

Splicer posted:

"cis-goon" is a horrifying concept

fixed that for you

Android Blues
Nov 22, 2008

This stuck out to me from the first fesh.

quote:

- Isn't being a nonbinary person just a cis person who doesn't want to engage with (what they perceive to be) traditional gender roles?
- Wouldn't it be better to explore your identity and break down gender roles without making up bullshit justifications like "gendervoid"?

The argument I've heard is that trans-critical radical feminists talk a big game about breaking down gender roles, but they're actually hugely restrictive when it comes to people putting that into practise. Like, the complaint here is that moving away from using "he" and "she" pronouns doesn't constitute a rejection or reformation of gender roles, right? How does that make sense? It seems to me like that's exactly what it is.

Like, if your feminist friend is complaining that nonbinary people aren't going hard enough against the gender binary by adopting different pronouns, which are one of the most gendered aspects of everyday language in our society, I would ask her why she thinks that.

I've seen a fair amount of discourse that says nonbinary people are really just cis women who are identifying out of womanhood because they live in a misogynist society, and that if they were really feminists they'd come back and fight for Female Power and re-identify as women and battle sexism. But isn't that kind of the opposite of "breaking down the gender binary", telling people that they have to be in your gender club and if they don't identify with womanhood, they really just hate themselves?

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
You're generally just better off getting to know people who identify as non-binary to understand what they mean by it given despite the enthusiasm that internet people take to developing new labels for themselves, you're unlikely to find two people who agree on the same definition. I know a couple non-binary people and for the most part they seem to not care who uses what pronouns to refer to them, 'he', 'she' and 'they' being fine as long as you're clear. I wouldn't assume that to be the same for everyone.


Android Blues posted:

I've seen a fair amount of discourse that says nonbinary people are really just cis women who are identifying out of womanhood because they live in a misogynist society, and that if they were really feminists they'd come back and fight for Female Power and re-identify as women and battle sexism. But isn't that kind of the opposite of "breaking down the gender binary", telling people that they have to be in your gender club and if they don't identify with womanhood, they really just hate themselves?

So what the hell does that mean for non-binary people who are biologically male?

Android Blues
Nov 22, 2008

The line on them tends to be that they're men who are either confused or predatory, and are using their nonbinary identification to shield them from criticism for having male privilege/allow them to sexually harass women and control left-wing social groups without being accused of being patriarchal. Basically, that they're using nonbinary identification as a way to get a "free pass" out of being thought of as part of the oppressor class by feminist communities.

I don't super buy that either, but it's at least ideologically consistent within the trans-critical feminist worldview, which puts protecting female born people and erasing the gender binary at the top of its list of priorities, and tends to make it an explicit stance that it's not interested in facilitating the interests of male born people as a class. Their stance on female born nonbinary people really isn't.

Android Blues
Nov 22, 2008

Again though, even that "people who were born male are men and will always be, act like, and have the privileges of men, no matter how they identify" is kind of counter to their whole "get rid of the gender binary" thing. I feel like you can't really serve both of those axioms at once.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
So they're TERF scum, gottit.

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words
I think it's more like "you can't undo 20-30-40 years of socialization just by saying nah." Like it's a lot of work to undo, rather than just saying it never happened.

Super Waffle
Sep 25, 2007

I'm a hermaphrodite and my parents (40K nerds) named me Slaanesh, THANKS MOM
re: MIB fesh, I once saw a person so strange looking that if it was later proved to be an alien I wouldn't be surprised. I was coming off a late flight and the terminal was almost empty aside from the people who had just gotten off the same plane as me. A few TSA agents, a couple janitors, a couple people waiting for family members. Then I saw this one guy, standing against the far wall, who looked like an Asian version of the Thin Men from the XCOM games:



Very tall, impossibly thin, weirdo looking black suit. Weird as in, avant-garde fashion. I figured him for a chauffeur, but I didn't want to stare at him too long. Never got gangstalked though.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
That was just a tall Asian guy in businesswear. Sometimes people are just socially awkward.


Android Blues posted:

Again though, even that "people who were born male are men and will always be, act like, and have the privileges of men, no matter how they identify" is kind of counter to their whole "get rid of the gender binary" thing. I feel like you can't really serve both of those axioms at once.

Let alone when you start applying the 'men are inherently predatory' axiom to, let's say, black men in the American South among white women. It's all radioactive.

H.H
Oct 24, 2006

August is the Cruelest Month

quote:

Looks like Julian Assange is in the news again. Oh boy!

I figured it's a good a time as any to share a truth so outrageous no one would have believed it prior to 2018:

Julian Assange is a serial killer. That's the "dirt" that GRU has which turned him from Greenwald/Snowden style rouser to Putin Puppet.

It's right here, in plain sight, in an old OkCupid profile:

https://mashable.com/2010/12/13/julian-assange-okcupid/?europe=true

What does Julian love? Everything Russian, and *slicing up brains*.

Mark my words, Assange is going to make Murder Madsen look like a choir boy.

I'm sorry I can't share more to support this claim but read between the lines and you know it's true. He has the same "vibe" as Madsen, he's got mental issues, he was nomadic for a large part of his life. Documented anti-social tendencies. Goes so far as to brag about his "small brown packages" on his dating profile!

He's a literal serial killer and the Russians are holding it over his head.

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Dear ADTRW,

Saw that theres no recommendation for the new manga from the person who created Gantz and Robot Grandpa (the manga that has a set of pages where President Trump screams about making The Purge real).

I don't recommend Gigant.

Hitomi Takana (Japanese porn star that gets brought up in Two Best Friend Plays videos) analogue has a relationship that quickly becomes creepy to read and everytime it comes up it makes me want to burn things.
The plot is too slow and takes nearly 20 chapters to reach the premise of a giantess fighting monsters summoned by the internet.
The crazy old man who walked around with a bike helmet and had advanced dvd technology was cool though; I want him brought back into the plot.

No seriously the plot doesn't go "OH gently caress GIANT MONSTERS ARE ATTACKING JAPAN" until chapter 14. The fact that it literally rains poo poo at one point still won't change my opinion that Gigant isn't recommend for reading.

Signed
Giantess/Breast expansion confessor goon

TehRedWheelbarrow
Mar 16, 2011



Fan of Britches
anime was a mistake.

NightshadeGenitals
Dec 28, 2017

Star maths and wishy thinking
Nobody cares about your lame Japanese cartoons, fatty.

yeah I eat ass
Mar 14, 2005

only people who enjoy my posting can replace this avatar
How is that second one a confession? It's just some anime goon too scared to post about anime.

TehRedWheelbarrow
Mar 16, 2011



Fan of Britches

yeah I eat rear end posted:

How is that second one a confession? It's just some anime goon too scared to post about anime.

too bad that's not contagious :catbert:

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR

yeah I eat rear end posted:

How is that second one a confession? It's just some anime goon too scared to post about anime.

The system works!

Son of Man
Jan 29, 2003

by Azathoth

sneakyfrog posted:

anime was a mistake.

yes that last one was the worst confession in the thread, bar none.
so bad it can't even be intelligently criticized - the writer completely failed to respond to the prompt.

perhaps anime damages the mind (permanently?) in the same way that they say pornography is unhealthy. anime is well documented as a catalyst for seizures in children.

is anime the lowest form of human expression? the question must at some point be asked.

Son of Man fucked around with this message at 18:15 on Aug 2, 2018

TehRedWheelbarrow
Mar 16, 2011



Fan of Britches
praise jesus

Cubone
May 26, 2011

Because it never leaves its bedroom, no one has ever seen this poster's real face.

quote:

Julian Assange is a serial killer..

Goes so far as to brag about his "small brown packages" on his dating profile!


... I don't want to tell you how to do your job, detective,

kalel
Jun 19, 2012

manga about American Presidents is an entertaining concept to me

there were a few I saw get circulated when Obama was elected that stylized him as some kind of badass which is kind of funny

HoboMan
Nov 4, 2010

After having seen some of the Gantz anime and being horrified and reading about how it gets even loving worse I can see how anime goon would want to keep his love of that writer anonymous

HoboMan
Nov 4, 2010

It feels like if a edgy 4chan poster made an anime

E: quote is not edit

Clockwerk
Apr 6, 2005


Dont post anime confessions

H.H
Oct 24, 2006

August is the Cruelest Month

quote:

I live in a rural area and I work for a temp agency that throws me into different industrial or laboring jobs. I support a lot of this social justice stuff I hear about, but it's not much use because I very rarely encounter anyone who isn't outwardly your usual white guy.

There's this black guy at the factory I'm currently assigned to, and whenever I'm near him I panic. I've been taking in all this information about how I'm privileged and how even small things can cause awful discriminatory experiences. Whenever he's around my head is going "don't be racist, don't be racist, don't be racist..." and I act like a complete goof. I try to smile politely and it probably comes out all crooked. I try to say the usual poo poo like "good morning" but I'm making GBS threads myself. I'm really uncomfortable and I think he can tell.

I feel bad because you're only going to get the goofball version of me if you're black.

quote:

Last night I got caught in a pretty huge lie by my fiancee. When we first started dating in 2010, I was 29 years old and had never been in a relationship before or even on a date. She was an extremely cool person and we got along great, but she had tons of stories about exes. I knew she'd probably leave me if I told her the truth so I made something up.

I told her I had only been with one girl, we started dating in high school and she had just started a job in the World Trade Center and tragically died on 9/11. I told her I was still struggling to get over it and that's why I hadn't been in a relationship in the intervening years. She was deeply sympathetic about it and we even cried together as I told her the story, and I think it played a major role in her having sex with me so early in the relationship, something she swore she never does. It was convenient because I could just blame my awful sex ability on the "9 year" dry spell.

So last year I proposed and she said yes. Because of where we lived she hadn't met my parents on the other side of the country, but we finally managed to get our schedules to match and let us go visit them this week. My parents knew about my lie and promised to cover for me, but when my fiancee brought up my "ex" my dad, who had had a bit too much to drink, started laughing and said "you actually believed that story?". My mom tried to cover and say he didn't know what he was talking about but the damage was done. We left the next day and the flight was pretty silent, and when we got home last night she told me to sleep in the guest room and "we're talking about this tomorrow".

I'm dreading her coming home from work and have no idea what I'm going to say. Why did I have to bring a national tragedy into it? Why couldn't I have just said I dated a few women but haven't found the right one yet like a normal virgin liar? My attitude is it shouldn't matter since we obviously get along great and this fake dead girl hadn't come up in years before this, so why can't we just laugh it off and continue on our lives?

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
you need literal actual proximity to peeps of different races to be less racist towards them

it's why singapore is the least racist place in southeast asia. they did a socialist housing dealio where every apartment had to basically have its resident composition look like a college brochure

i went to vermont for a trip once and it was super fuckin awkward as an asian dude despite peeps having the ideological coolness w/ nonwhite peeps. there's like biological practical stuff for avoiding xenophobia

bob dobbs is dead fucked around with this message at 06:07 on Aug 3, 2018

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Schneider Inside Her
Aug 6, 2009

Please bitches. If nothing else I am a gentleman
My advice for the white dude trying to not be racist is twofold. One, just try to treat the dude like you would any other co-worker. If you stick along those lines you probably won’t say anything that could be construed as racist. Two, this dude has probably copped a huge amount of poo poo for being black if the area you live in doesn’t have many black people. He would have a pretty thick skin and if god forbid you do say something racist toward him he’ll probably forgive you if you apologise. He might not like you that much though.

Virgin who lied, I guess just apologise and say something like “I was super weird back then which is probably why I was a virgin til 29. I owe everything good in my life to you giving me a chance, please give me another one.” This is assuming your life with her has been pretty good up to this point. Also your dad owes you like at least a 12 year old bottle of scotch whiskey. At least.

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