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phasmid posted:I wondered why in the Westwood games a horned beast was the Harkonnen seal. I thought it was a bull, in reference to the one that killed Leto I. But maybe it was an ox? i always thought it was some kind of goat, which is weird cause the official seal is a griffon also they hosed up the colours, harkonnen are blue and atredies green *pushes glasses up nose*
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BIG MEATY SHITS posted:i always thought it was some kind of goat, which is weird cause the official seal is a griffon But that would not work because the blue (or white) color is always for the good guys, while green and yellow is for the weird-beards and third alternatives. Red and black are the bad guy-colors. Seriously; if they had made blue Harkonnen people would have been confused and complained that the assholes are portrayed as heroes.
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Probably true. Although on Dune it's said often that they have a different appreciation of colors and their meaning. It's significant that the Atreides symbol is a hawk and the Harkonnen is a fictive animal, like some silly one-upsmanship.
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I played the Dune RTS before reading the books. The harkonnen were red, the atreides were blue, and the ordos were green. Then the books had no ordos and the colors were different and I was confused.
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rockin yellow to the next funeral i attend
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ToxicSlurpee posted:I played the Dune RTS before reading the books. The harkonnen were red, the atreides were blue, and the ordos were green. Then the books had no ordos and the colors were different and I was confused. In Emperor the Ordos are basically the borg lol BIG MEATY SHITS posted:rockin yellow to the next funeral i attend gently caress yeah.
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phasmid posted:In Emperor the Ordos are basically the borg lol Pro strat was Ordos + Sardaukar + Tleilaxu.
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Vlex posted:Pro strat was Ordos + Sardaukar + Tleilaxu. I'd meet you with Atreides Fremen Guild. That spice is mine.
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I call it... Desert Power....
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phasmid posted:In Emperor the Ordos are basically the borg lol I never played that game. Is it actually good? I only know that it exists. The last one I played was dune 2000 which was basically red alert but with sand worms.
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Emperor had some choice moments. Using Fedaykin to eat people's spice harvesters is fun and Guildsmen can teleport over the entire map. Tleilaxu require a lot more micro, but they gently caress people up. You might try it. There's a lot of great B-listers in the live action cutscenes. sebmojo posted:I call it... Desert Power.... 
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The Harkonnen were the blue guys in the original Dune game and the Atreides were red. I kinda wish westwood kept that colour motif but whatever no big deal.
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Vladimir Harkonnen posted:I call it... Dessert Power....
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Is being immune to precognitive powers somehow intrinsic to a no-ship's ability to do FTL travel, or is the "no" part just for privacy and security, with a navigational computer handling the space-folds, since Leto II's engineered spice famine motivated the Ixians or whoever to re-learn how to design those? Until, of course, a traditional Heighliner telefrags into a no-ship it's navigator couldn't see occupying that spot of space.
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No they had the no-room as early as God Emperor, central to that Malky/Hwi plot, and also in Heretics when they find the old Harkonnen one on Gammu, so the no-thing can certainly be immobile. Also I got the sense that FTL was easy for them, it’s the “not driving into a loving star” part that’s the big deal. The FTL advancement in the later series, if I recall, was Ix making an AI/robot navigator. So I think the two are pretty much separate and they just had them together for military or security purposes.
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I read the book when I was pretty young (too young to understand 99% of it, also I had to ask my mother what a concubine was. I don't remember what answer she gave but I'm sure it was diplomatic) but even before that I remember playing Dune and Dune II and the sort of....weirdness of that world was what pulled me in. Now as an adult I'd probably say Dune is my favourite sci-fi novel. The first game was pretty hypnotic for kid-me, the sort of combo adventure game and RTS.....thing. I never finished it, naturally, maybe I should go back to that some time. Mode 7 fucked around with this message at 10:26 on Aug 2, 2018 |
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The first Dune game was hard as balls to win, too. You could easily paint yourself into a corner and make the game unwinnable looooong before you realised where and how you hosed up.
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Vlex posted:The first Dune game was hard as balls to win, too. You could easily paint yourself into a corner and make the game unwinnable looooong before you realised where and how you hosed up. I have fond memories of being asked for 2,500kg of spice for some lovely lasguns by smugglers in that game. tight aspirations fucked around with this message at 13:27 on Aug 2, 2018 |
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I played the first Dune game when I was younger -- my grandmother was a Dune 2 savant -- and even then it struck me that you had to do things exactly right in the correct order or you'd find yourself in an unwinnable situation.
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first one was hard in that if you lost a single battle you were generally hosed. i think the battle orders were also hosed cause even if you outnumbered them 5:1 and had oh my god atomics, hitting any of the special attack orders would instantly kill you, so you just had to wait poo poo out. eventually id get bored and turn the whole spice map black with ecologists. you could get harkonnen to abandon forts by ruining the spice below their territory, but that'd take days since weve heard from you
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It also influences how I thought of thopters pretty heavily. This is still what I imagine in my head when I read the books.
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i can only ever see thufir as nosferatu, which is incredible given the competition in his portrayals
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Baron Harkonnen from the miniseries plays a bumbling old Cornish plumber/restaurant owner in a popular show here called Doc Martin (for 13 years). I will always think of the other when watching one. 
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Ian McNeice is a great actor and I love watching him in anything he's in.
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Mode 7 posted:It also influences how I thought of thopters pretty heavily. This is still what I imagine in my head when I read the books. I always thought of thopters as literal bird mimics. Like, flying as a raptor does and coming to rest anywhere their feet/landing gear could find purchase. Since there's all the storms, you'd have to have something pretty acrobatic to fly over the surface of the planet. Also, it's probably just cooler in a sci-fi prog rock album cover kinda way.
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Yeah the range of articulation that's spelled out in the texts points to something very bird like, at least in the wings: https://twitter.com/AlexJayBrady/status/900749820306087940 More good stuff in the artstation link.
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What? No more ornis?
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Prolonged Priapism posted:Yeah the range of articulation that's spelled out in the texts points to something very bird like, at least in the wings: poo poo yeah e. although I imagine them as not having "heads" really. Maybe a cone up front to create the air foil, but without sounding morbid, I still think of them as big machines that look like headless birds.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOmX6HmGp0U
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duen...
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sebmojo posted:duen... Deun?
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Dnue, dyslexic planet
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Düne, Deutsches Planet
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Dane, murdersub planet
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The description of ornithopters sounded more like insects than birds to me.
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I always pictured a dragonfly with segmented wings more or less
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Dine, Guy Fieri planet
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wyntyr posted:I always pictured a dragonfly with segmented wings more or less I saw the movie first so they always looked like gold boxes with wings to me
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Just remembered that in eighth grade I bought Dune and Children of Dune from a bookmobile and when my health teacher saw me go from book one to book three he freaked out hardcore, like sent me to the library in the middle of class (I was reading instead of doing schoolwork because I’m a goon obv) to check out Dune Messiah. That guy was cool.
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wyntyr posted:Just remembered that in eighth grade I bought Dune and Children of Dune from a bookmobile and when my health teacher saw me go from book one to book three he freaked out hardcore, like sent me to the library in the middle of class (I was reading instead of doing schoolwork because I’m a goon obv) to check out Dune Messiah. That guy was cool. A good teacher.
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