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god drat Death Knight is sick. I'm very happy with this update The new particle effects are very pretty and the new music is excellent!
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they fixed aa so the particles actually looks decent and it's given me a nice performance boost  seconded on the music too, andrew hulshult's score blows chris vrenna's phoned in bullshit out of the water.
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Aug 2, 2018 23:25
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Jose Mengelez posted:...also does sabertech use idtech5 style texture streaming and would it benefit (outside of loading times obv) from being installed on ssd? A lot of newer games do. I've got 7700k, 1070, intel 750p u.2 nvme, 32gb 3200 and stays at a solid 144fps with 144hz monitor. I don't use adaptive or vsync for the usual reasons.
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Aug 2, 2018 23:46
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dk is maybe the most i've enjoyed the game yet. airshotting somebody with the convergence is incredible
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Aug 2, 2018 23:55
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cougar cub posted:Just LOL at the info for DK coming out via random discord chats instead of an actual promo a la blizzard. idk if I was a dev I would be ecstatic because it means: 1) less money+effort I have to put into marketing, 2) reminds me I have customers who are super interested in my product, 3) going forward we have that critical mass of potential customers so we don't have to invest as much into new features and can instead invest our efforts in higher return stuff like cosmetics
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I certainly prefer having dialogue with the core developers in the official discord over some hyper corporate manicured ad push
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Aug 3, 2018 00:05
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guess im going to play instagib forever now 
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Love Stole the Day posted:idk if I was a dev I would be ecstatic because it means: 1) less money+effort I have to put into marketing, 2) reminds me I have customers who are super interested in my product, 3) going forward we have that critical mass of potential customers so we don't have to invest as much into new features and can instead invest our efforts in higher return stuff like cosmetics Quake has a history that allows them to do this though. People want maps, a lot of maps that already existed, people want player pawns, mostly that were already there. Where's my loving Orb with a vanity top hat and monocle, I will pay you real cash bucks for this. Also where is Q2DM1 The Edge.
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Love Stole the Day posted:idk if I was a dev I would be ecstatic because it means: 1) less money+effort I have to put into marketing, 2) reminds me I have customers who are super interested in my product, 3) going forward we have that critical mass of potential customers so we don't have to invest as much into new features and can instead invest our efforts in higher return stuff like cosmetics There are less than 2600 people in the official discord. That is not critical mass - that's a rounding error.
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Aug 3, 2018 00:36
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Do you know how much if a nerd do you have to be to join an official game discord? Maybe 5% of players wild do that ever.
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Aug 3, 2018 00:39
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My wait's have rocketed from about 1 mins to 5 after this patch
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Aug 3, 2018 00:41
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cougar cub posted:There are less than 2600 people in the official discord. That is not critical mass - that's a rounding error. That's 2600 online, there's an additional 8600 offline. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make but it sucks, we're tryin to enjoy quake here
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New Zealand can eat me posted:That's 2600 online, there's an additional 8600 offline. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make but it sucks, we're tryin to enjoy quake here Also a huge part of the Quake community is still on IRC of all drat thing so...
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Had $5 free Steambux so I grabbed the starter pack. Have enough quake coins for 1 more champ and will likely have enough favor soon for another. Which character should I grab if I plan on playing InstaGib & CTF primarily? Been looking at Visor. DoomGuy was fun too but I'm wondering how well his utility will hold up in those modes. Already have QuakeGuy, Scale, Clutch & BJ.
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Aug 3, 2018 03:09
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How the gently caress did they let Death Knight go live like this his super is so loving bullshit.
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Aug 3, 2018 04:19
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyNFSzwTtF8
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poo poo yes patch is niceThief posted:guess im going to play instagib forever now YESSSSSSS Also the 2nd skin set for death knight is pretty much Bones, so I'm happy as hell
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Aug 3, 2018 04:46
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Oh poo poo you can multi-queue now and it puts you in the first available ahhhh thank you Id
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Aug 3, 2018 05:20
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was wondering why my queue times were 3+ minutes instead of less than 2, turns out the patch had unchecked some datacenters. if you're getting longer than usual wait times after today, check that
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Aug 3, 2018 06:26
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via /vg/: Haha whoops
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DoctorStrangelove posted:How the gently caress did they let Death Knight go live like this his super is so loving bullshit. Clearly you haven't tried using gauntlet-only scalebearer, the homing circular saw of the neighborhood.
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Aug 3, 2018 12:38
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Woah, I played this only a bit but this patch looks awesome. Lots of improvements and new music too. I hope it keeps getting love because being in 2018 with a good doom, wolfenstein games and now QC improving... 
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Aug 3, 2018 12:48
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Getting Andrew Hulsh to do the new tracks was a good move. He's like the modern Zak Belica.
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The Joe Man posted:Had $5 free Steambux so I grabbed the starter pack. Have enough quake coins for 1 more champ and will likely have enough favor soon for another. Which character should I grab if I plan on playing InstaGib & CTF primarily? Been looking at Visor. DoomGuy was fun too but I'm wondering how well his utility will hold up in those modes. Already have QuakeGuy, Scale, Clutch & BJ. Visor or Death Knight.
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Jose Mengelez posted:ok let me rephrase; Quake Live's engine's core is from 2000. The doom2016 engine isn't. A fuckton happens underneath the hood of any game that is not even remotely graphic-related. Those things got upgraded over time just as much as the visual side. So yes, there is an order of magnitude more going on even if you, the player, do not have anything to do with that aspect. This isn't just for this game. It is like that across the board; cpu requirements have been steadily going up. If they weren't you could in theory take a cpu from 2000, slap the latest gpu on it and call it a day(compatibility aside). But it's pretty clear that that is not how it works at all.
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A lot of people have bought into the nonsense that Sandy Bridge through Kaby Lake were just incremental upgrades that could be made up through overclocking the piss out of things. But while there is some truth to that, and I'm leaving out six to eight core systems here, it leaves a lot out. One of the platforms clobbers other. Then there is the issue that Hyper-Threading is used more widely now, many games can do eight threats so walking into gaming now with a non i7 quad is just asking for issues.
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ndub posted:was wondering why my queue times were 3+ minutes instead of less than 2, turns out the patch had unchecked some datacenters. if you're getting longer than usual wait times after today, check that They hosed up all my settings to. Also there is an new audio setting, turn it on! DoctorStrangelove posted:How the gently caress did they let Death Knight go live like this his super is so loving bullshit. ? Compared to.... what? Just stay away from him. He's not fast enough to catch the lights and the heavies can take the hit. Also his passives aren't all that. Standing in lava/fire/heat is funny, but pointless most times. The burning gauntlets is hella funny, but not all that. Though tracing people through the wall by their damage sounds/numbers is hilarious when you nick them.
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Mindblast posted:Quake Live's engine's core is from 2000. The doom2016 engine isn't. A fuckton happens underneath the hood of any game that is not even remotely graphic-related. Those things got upgraded over time just as much as the visual side. So yes, there is an order of magnitude more going on even if you, the player, do not have anything to do with that aspect. This isn't just for this game. It is like that across the board; cpu requirements have been steadily going up. If they weren't you could in theory take a cpu from 2000, slap the latest gpu on it and call it a day(compatibility aside). But it's pretty clear that that is not how it works at all. quake champions isn't running on the doom2016 engine (idtech 6) dude. it's running on a third party engine built from the ground up by saber whose previous work includes unofficially porting halo 3 multiplayer to pc and...uh *crickets chirping*. i didn't have any problems with doom2016 at all. it runs completely buttery smooth even in multiplayer as did wolf:tnc (also idtech 6). i can run both those games maxed out capped at 120fps without drops. it's a fantastic engine (especially with vulkan). sabertech has... potential? there's clearly a reason the dev roadmap promises multiple rounds of optimization to come. the game's still in early access after all, and will be for a good while.
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Doom 2016 is the only game I can run maxed at 144hz and it's ...almost too good. sensory overload
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hawowanlawow posted:Doom 2016 is the only game I can run maxed at 144hz and it's ...almost too good. sensory overload i reckon idtech6 and all of john carmack's quake engines have left me with massively unrealistic expectations wrt optimization.
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Jose Mengelez posted:i reckon idtech6 and all of john carmack's quake engines have left me with massively unrealistic expectations wrt optimization. This! Plus we live in the era of endless betas and early access. This game has come a long way from the closed alpha though.
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MysteriousStranger posted:Visor or Death Knight. This game owns now. Queue times are lower, removal of the bots was a great idea, zero lag/performance problems that I've experienced. Had a blast last night and actually placed 1st & 2nd regularly mainlining instagib matches. They add CTF and I'll be a happy camper.
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Was there ever a reason why they picked this random engine instead of idtech6?
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Jose Mengelez posted:quake champions isn't running on the doom2016 engine (idtech 6) dude. A quake game running on other tech? Interesting world we live in! Reading more into it, its a hybrid idtech + sabertech engine. The idtech still isn't the 2016 version. Apparantly it wasn't ready to be used outside Doom2k16.
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cougar cub posted:Was there ever a reason why they picked this random engine instead of idtech6? From what I remember, it already had the loot modules built into it. Checked to see if I could stop having to hoard reliquaries.  This is starting to feel downright malicious.
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Yvershek posted:From what I remember, it already had the loot modules built into it. Once you get far enough in you non stop generate shards and can buy chests on the constant. Also again we has discord https://discord.gg/m45w5cn
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cougar cub posted:Was there ever a reason why they picked this random engine instead of idtech6? https://www.pcgamesn.com/quake-champions/quake-champions-engine-saber-interactive It sounds like they started working on quake champions before doom went gold, so it would have been difficult to develop on a moving target and the doom team couldn't spare support. Also they say it uses some id tech and some saber tech but aren't real clear about what that means 
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I only wish death knight had a classic skin wanna look like this
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