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Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

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D.Ork Bimboolean
Aug 26, 2016

Slim Jim Pickens posted:

wow and I thought somebody got killed in Portland already

There is still time.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

CharlestheHammer posted:

in all seriousness that is why it’s been rather hard to appeal leftism to more minorities as a lot of hardcore leftists get really invested in the capital question and kind of forget that the idea of making everything better for everyone kind of ignores minorities issues and just compacts them into everyone else. Bernie Sanders ran into this problem and even though he eventually did learn it was kind of to late.

I know he isn’t hardcore left but he does represent the issue they have to deal with very well.

Yeah, I mean a lot of people who become pretty devoted leftists tend to be comfortable white people used to living under segregation who have never had to confront the reality of racism or even really know anything about it, since you usually need quite a bit of formal education to even encounter left ideas in America. Like, in their imagination the unified working class is them and a bunch of mid-50s white guys with accents from down at the docks wearing wool caps, plus maybe the pretty girl who seats them at Chili's.

Accretionist
Nov 7, 2012
I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES
That but latinos.

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


cool some dumb hillarymen caricatures of the left

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy

business hammocks posted:

What the gently caress are you talking about? I'm trying to teach your little bitch rear end that black nationalists don't want to build an ethnostate, something you could have learned for yourself by reading a book from your local library. Why didn't you read a book from your local library before presuming you were an expert in American culture and history?
There's a little known figure called Malcolm X (maybe you have heard of him?) who advocated exactly that though. Are they not a "real" BN in your eyes? Because that would be ahistorical.

Again, I'll ask: Suppose you've triggered all the libs, with your posts about exterminating white people. What do you do now?

Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:

larger systemic forces are irrelevant, it is only your own personal actions that have meaning, i say, as i shrink into a succdem
Does falling back on tribalism to fight tribalism a) undermine the system of tribalism b) reinforce it?

Magnusth
Sep 25, 2014

Hello, Creature! Do You Despise Goat Hating Fascists? So Do We! Join Us at Paradise Lost!


rudatron posted:

Does falling back on tribalism to fight tribalism a) undermine the system of tribalism b) reinforce it?

This would be a relevant question if this was what was happening.

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


rudatron posted:

Irrelevant, I'm asking you to judge your own actions, and hold yourself to the same standard you hold others. You simply refuse to do this. You have chosen to use the logic and philosophy of essentialization, because you find it entertaining or whatever. What does that say about you?

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this is just a terrible post

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

cool some dumb hillarymen caricatures of the left

I'm posing about my DSA reading group experiences where we enjoyed Capital together. It was an extremely white time, nothing against them.

Reclines Obesily
Jul 24, 2000



Hey Moona!
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I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

That flap copy doesn't exactly seem like a compliment.

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually
"1) Dodge under their punches, run between their legs, and jab upwards."

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

rudatron posted:

There's a little known figure called Malcolm X (maybe you have heard of him?) who advocated exactly that though. Are they not a "real" BN in your eyes? Because that would be ahistorical.

I know there's no point in answering this, but this post is entirely stupid and wrong. He meant that black neighborhoods needed to support local businesses and have black mayors and poo poo if they wanted to resist racism, not that they needed their own fourteen words and a freehold in cascadia. Jesus Christ.

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

there was a guy in the LF thread that was super pro black belt secession

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

If there's a place where black people should enslave and rule over whites with impossible cruelty, it's Alabama.

HorrificExistence
Jun 25, 2017

by Athanatos

business hammocks posted:

If there's a place where black people should enslave and rule over whites with impossible cruelty, it's Alabama.

thats a strange way of spelling south africa

Oh Snapple!
Dec 27, 2005

HorrificExistence posted:

thats a strange way of spelling south africa

or brazil

because boy let me tell you about a life expectancy of a whopping 8 years once a slave got off the boat there

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos
smdh at everyone saying where a black person can and can't own whites as slaves

kitten emergency
Jan 13, 2008

get meow this wack-ass crystal prison
i mean there's black separatists out there but there's not exactly a ton of them and my understanding is that most people view them as quacks and kooks

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!

uncurable mlady posted:

i mean there's black separatists out there but there's not exactly a ton of them and my understanding is that most people view them as quacks and kooks

Wait you mean rudatron was poisoning the discussion on race with cherrypicked extreme anomalies?

But that, that, that is what a racist would do.... :wth:

HorrificExistence
Jun 25, 2017

by Athanatos
i think ethnic nationalism is pretty bad tbh, unless we want a black version of israel

Slugnoid
Jun 23, 2006

Nap Ghost

weapons screening at the park, but arent the fash meeting down the road from the park, at the fountain? this doesn't mean only antifascists getting screened does it?

kitten emergency
Jan 13, 2008

get meow this wack-ass crystal prison

Grape posted:

Wait you mean rudatron was poisoning the discussion on race with cherrypicked extreme anomalies?

But that, that, that is what a racist would do.... :wth:

idk i really only skimmed the meltdown

the world would be much better if everyone just ignored bad faith chud arguments but we live in hellworld where every iota of ginned up rage must be equivocated

however, there's plenty of people on the left eager to jump down people's throats for misunderstanding or misinterpreting academic language. i grew up in appalachia, i've gotten my fair share of "do they even wear shoes" tier dumbass classism from so-called coastal elites. if you aren't couched in the language of oppression, of course you're going to see ill intent where it doesn't exist and/or you're going to be very susceptible to thinking "racism" is a thing that can happen to everyone equally, because the term has been abused in the US especially.

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Slugnoid posted:

weapons screening at the park, but arent the fash meeting down the road from the park, at the fountain? this doesn't mean only antifascists getting screened does it?

of course it does

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/UR_Ninja/status/1025548447540277255

Bushiz
Sep 21, 2004

The #1 Threat to Ba Sing Se

Grimey Drawer
I hate when some feckless lib gets piled on by neo nazis because I have to watch a bunch of cool people defend someone who would absolutely throw them under a bus

Like sarah jeong is Not That Bad in comparison to a lot of the other NYT staff but the fact that she got hired by NYT still means she's someone who will go to bat for neonazis before socialists.

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


nationalism is bad and straight up ruined and destroyed 20th century socialism

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

nationalism is bad and straight up ruined and destroyed 20th century socialism

nationalism is a disease, even when it was renamed to "patriotism" to make it sound better

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008

Yinlock posted:

nationalism is a disease, even when it was renamed to "patriotism" to make it sound better

no you see patriotism and nationalism are two totally different things. the difference? heh, well, nationalism is just like patriotism, except its bad, while patriotism is like if nationalism were good

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Yinlock posted:

nationalism is a disease, even when it was renamed to "patriotism" to make it sound better

patriotism and nationalism are (or are supposed to be, nationalists do their best to convince people otherwise) different things

read Orwell

HorrificExistence
Jun 25, 2017

by Athanatos

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

patriotism and nationalism are (or are supposed to be, nationalists do their best to convince people otherwise) different things

read Orwell

is this a joke

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 28 days!)

HorrificExistence posted:

i think ethnic nationalism is pretty bad tbh, unless we want a black version of israel

Who wouldn't want a country of Black Israelites?

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


tucker is just straight up an alt right nazi

https://twitter.com/peltzmadeline/status/1025542248195403776

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 28 days!)

Yeowch!!! My Balls!!!
May 31, 2006

ask him about why everyone who said Libya was going to be a disaster was just an anti-American knee-jerker, and your question will be answered

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


imagine living in new york city and hating multiculturalism lol

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

always the same goddamn face on Tucker Carlson, it's damned uncanny

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 28 days!)

There's only one culture in new yawk, and that's where I'm gonna get the best slice baby

Reclines Obesily
Jul 24, 2000



Hey Moona!
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Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
maybe Tucker Carlson was actually sent back to our time by SkyNet but instead of killing John Connor he became a Fox News host instead to destroy humanity by other means

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