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Plastik posted:I mean, all the MCU movies did is remove a plot hole where a high school student at a technology magnet school can make an attractive, practical, breathable, durable, combat-resilient full-body suit in the space of a few weeks on a freelance photographer's budget. The way you describe the costume I don't think we're talking about the same thing. The classic Spider-Man costume is just conventional materials and fabrics, the same as it was in other Spider-Man movies. No durability, resiliency, or combat-readiness, and the joke's often been that it's not particularly comfortable or breathable. If you can't believe a teenager could make a classic Spider-Man costume fit for a Hollywood production, that's fine (though it's not a plot hole), but part of the criticism of Peter getting the suit from Stark in Civil War is that Spider-Man did not actually design the Spider-Man look.
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Plastik posted:I mean, all the MCU movies did is remove a plot hole where a high school student at a technology magnet school can make an attractive, practical, breathable, durable, combat-resilient full-body suit in the space of a few weeks on a freelance photographer's budget. ASM did a great job demonstrating how Peter cobbled together the suit and Raimi's films at least paid lip service to it. I don't even really give a gently caress about any of that. I just didn't care for so much Iron Man and Tony Stark in my Peter Parker Spiderman movie and didn't think it was a good fit or that was executed very well. I liked most everything else about Homecoming but the computer interface and video gamey unlocking upgrades and poo poo just didn't work for me and I didn't think it was rally needed to drive the story. That's all. Personal preference I guess that I didn't care for.
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Aug 3, 2018 22:27
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I think having Peter design his own suit makes sense for the Raimi Spiderman where he is fundamentally a loner who his power isolates. But the Homecoming Spiderman is about a Peter in contact with a wider community of comrades and confidants, and his major struggle is figuring out his identity within that. So it doesn't make sense thematically for him to individually make his suit from scratch, symbolically creating his identity, at the very start of his arc. Maybe in the third film he could make his own suit or something but he's nowhere near that point.
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Aug 3, 2018 22:54
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I liked Kick-rear end designing his own suit
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Aug 3, 2018 22:57
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I thought it was different and interesting and fun to see Spider-Man have superparents in the form of Tony and Karen.
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i think the ai stark-driven suit lends credibility that a middle aged billionaire with experience in profound failure would trust a 15 year old kid to go out and play superhero
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Well he did lock up most of the more dangerous Fe. Unfortunately the fifteen year old kid and all his friends happen to be science prodigies who hacked the suit with a laptop.
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A.I. Borgland Corp posted:I liked Kick-rear end designing his own suit I liked Bruce designing his suit in Batman Begins.
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Jamesman posted:I thought it was different and interesting and fun to see Spider-Man have superparents in the form of Tony and Karen. Yeah. It was an interesting dynamic that doesn’t go against what makes Spider-Man Spider-Man.
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Aug 4, 2018 00:10
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BiggerBoat posted:I liked Bruce designing his suit in Batman Begins. The twangy guitar riff during the costume design scene in the first Raimi Spider-Man is one of my favourite pieces of music in the whole trilogy. It sounds like a Spider-Man theme song.
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Aug 4, 2018 00:22
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Watching yet another 10 minute montage of Peter building his suit wouldn’t have been very entertaining.
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I remember seeing that parody video with Jack Black designing Spider-Man suits and drawing pictures of a biker and a sailor then labelling "NOT GAY ENOUGH" or "TOO GAY" and then drawing the Spider-Man costume and writing "EXACTLY THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF GAY" and for quite some time afterwards I thought that was actually in the movie.
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Aug 4, 2018 01:00
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Today my sister decided to tell me that her theory is that Strange threw the Time Stone into the future, the heroes used it to win, and then threw it back in time to him so he could give it to Thanos. It shattered my brain, but I'm also kind of in love with it.
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Aug 4, 2018 02:10
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Strange saw only one possible scenario where Thanos is beaten, which means he made it to the end. If we are on that path, that means he has to be alive in some form. OR the scenario he saw was one that already got hosed up (where the win he saw was one where The Snap didn't happen), and now he's dead, and everyone's just gonna have to wing it and hope they can do some of that avenging that they do.
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Jamesman posted:Strange saw only one possible scenario where Thanos is beaten, which means he made it to the end. If we are on that path, that means he has to be alive in some form.
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SonicRulez posted:Yes. Though in 06's case, the game fans asked for is not the one that was released. Chocolate Oreo ice cream. 
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SonicRulez posted:Today my sister decided to tell me that her theory is that Strange threw the Time Stone into the future, the heroes used it to win, and then threw it back in time to him so he could give it to Thanos. It shattered my brain, but I'm also kind of in love with it. Your sister could have written comics in the silver age.
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mikeraskol posted:This doesn’t even make sense. His OG costume was Parker-made, he was wearing it in the videos Tony watched to initially find Peter (in Civil War) and he went back to it when Tony took the costume away. Am I missing something here? I should have phrased that better. By the OG, I meant his classic costume everyone knows. I feel like it should be something he made. Same for his webshooters, which he obviously did make originally, but in Homecoming it's shown that the suit has a bunch of different webshooter options built in. I'm not saying that I dislike the movie or that a Stark suit is a grievous sin that destroys my enjoyment of the film, but I feel like the first costume should be Peter's. Don't get me wrong though, by no means am I asking for another montage of Peter making his suit and shooters like the previous franchises, we've seen that. Plus if nothing else, Spider-Man's costume just seems like a weird suit design to come from Tony. I mean the comic Iron Spider is red and gold and Tony even says it's because he made it, and Infinity War's Iron Spider has a black and gold scheme changing things up, but the first costume is... different. I remember reading a piece (maybe by Chris Sims, I can't remember) talking about how weird Spider-Man's costume is when you think about it and how it shouldn't work but it does somehow, and I feel like it's something a teenager would make, not an industrialist that's been making superhero super suits for years. But to each their own, I get that I'm seemingly in the minority.
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TwoPair posted:I should have phrased that better. By the OG, I meant his classic costume everyone knows. I feel like it should be something he made. Same for his webshooters, which he obviously did make originally, but in Homecoming it's shown that the suit has a bunch of different webshooter options built in. I'm not saying that I dislike the movie or that a Stark suit is a grievous sin that destroys my enjoyment of the film, but I feel like the first costume should be Peter's. Don't get me wrong though, by no means am I asking for another montage of Peter making his suit and shooters like the previous franchises, we've seen that. Eh, I think you get enough of that from Peter's first costume that he did make, that you see briefly in Civil War and he wears for the climax of Homecoming. He's built a few gadgets into it and Stark's suit is clearly based on the costume Peter already made for himself. I mainly just think MCU Peter is pretty different from the standard idea of Peter Parker. He's a late-comer to the world of superheroes, and he's been taken under the wing of a veteran hero who sees great potential in him. I think that story works, even if it's not Peter's usual story. Tony clearly sees Peter as being him but better, without Tony's profound character flaws and undamaged by the things Tony's endured. Tony's looking at Peter and trying to teach him to not make the mistakes Tony did. And I like that take.
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Christopher Robin is a Disney movie and I've heard it has a post-credits scene, so get ready for Winnie the Pooh as an Avenger.
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Lobok posted:Christopher Robin is a Disney movie and I've heard it has a post-credits scene, so get ready for Winnie the Pooh as an Avenger. Please tell me everyone, including Pooh, turns to ash.
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Oh bother... I've got a rumbly in my tumbly...
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There's a thing Jim Cummings does sometimes at convention appearances where he reads lines in Pooh's voice. The best one is Darth Vader. "The Death Star plans are not in the main computer." "<sigh> Oh, bother."
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More than any suit stuff I think I'm one of the few people bothered by the scrubbing of Uncle Ben from MCU Peter. I understand that this is an unpopular opinion, and I wouldn't want a whole flashback or whatever, but maybe a couple of lines or a graveside scene. Just something more than the vague allusions in the films currently. I just think, to me, guilt and what it can do to you and how it can change you is one of the core elements of the character and it has been kind of absent.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Now that Infinity War is out on Digital and Blue Ray, someone needs to post a HQ gif of the ~20 second Dr. Strange/Thanos sequence on Titan. 
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These battles still are just DBZ battles Why doesn't strange just polymorph Thanos into a goat or teleport his dick into his rear end
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They absolutely nailed what a Doctor Strange throwdown should be, it was amazing.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:They absolutely nailed what a Doctor Strange throwdown should be, it was amazing. The completely unnecessary butterfly transmorphing that even Thanos is confused about
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Zzulu posted:or teleport his dick into his rear end what the gently caress is wrong with you dude.
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Karloff posted:I just think, to me, guilt and what it can do to you and how it can change you is one of the core elements of the character and it has been kind of absent. It’s there, they just don’t beat you over the head with it. In Civil War, Peter says if something bad happens that you could have stopped but didn’t, you’re as culpable as the actual perpetrators. That’s a pretty naked reference to Uncle Ben and Peter’s lingering feelings of guilt.
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I wonder if they'll do his Uncle Ben moment in a flashback at some point. They'll need to get it shot soon before he starts looking older, he'll only be able to pass as 16 for a few years.
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I hope they don’t, we all know the story and don’t need to see it ever again
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i could go the rest of my life and never see uncle ben get it again and be happy
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In infinity war 2 uncle tony is gunna say the special line as he dies
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Just come back from watching Ant-Man and the Wasp. I think someone in this thread called it refreshingly low stakes and I agree it was great that it wasn't a world ending event. I enjoyed it quite a bit but wondered if it suffered from having five writers (unless some of those writers just contributed a line or two). Go out and watch it people, if we don't support these things then they might not carry on!
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Rhyno posted:what the gently caress is wrong with you dude. Did you miss all the memes about people saying Hawkeye and Ant-Man weren't in IW because they could beat Thanos if Clint fired an arrow on Thanos butt and Scott got inside and turned giant? Lucky.
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Samuringa posted:Did you miss all the memes about people saying Hawkeye and Ant-Man weren't in IW because they could beat Thanos if Clint fired an arrow on Thanos butt and Scott got inside and turned giant? I didn't know Mark Millar had a pass at the script.
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Soul Glo posted:i could go the rest of my life and never see uncle ben get it again and be happy You have to choose one, Uncle Ben getting killed in every Spider-Man movie or the Waynes getting killed in every Batman movie. And whichever one you choose not only will you see it once all the way through, but you’ll also flashback to either the Responsibity line or the Pearls twice more during the film. Go ahead make your choice.
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X-O posted:You have to choose one, Uncle Ben getting killed in every Spider-Man movie or the Waynes getting killed in every Batman movie. And whichever one you choose not only will you see it once all the way through, but you’ll also flashback to either the Responsibity line or the Pearls twice more during the film. Uuugggggghhhhhh I guess I’d go for the Uncle Ben line since it usually precedes Spidey kicking rear end instead of pearls and then Batman just quietly brooding or weeping the weepy weep way Now release me from your clutches you goblin
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The one Spider-Man movie was better than the last three Batman movies and i would like that quality to continue so sorry Batman you get the stupid flashbacks from now on
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