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Tim Raines IRL posted:I obliterated Humans last night with this nonsense: the manabase seems pretty messy. so many basics, tapped lands, and colorless lands are gonna screw you up, seems like a deck that badly wants to curve out for the first three turns without any issues. bolts don't make a ton of sense, you're a prison deck with tons of other answers to creatures and it's not like you have any sort of clock to speed up other cards to consider off the top of my head: that land that gets luck counters, smallpox, fulminator mage. goblin rabblemaster would be really good for the sideboard
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little munchkin posted:the manabase seems pretty messy. so many basics, tapped lands, and colorless lands are gonna screw you up, seems like a deck that badly wants to curve out for the first three turns without any issues. I was going to ask why this deck isn’t playing any blackcleave cliffs. Budget is a good reason, I suppose.
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yeah, I only have one Cliffs and I am not looking to buy cards right now. this deck certainly needs more win conditions, though, and Lavaclaw Reaches is awful.
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Aug 6, 2018 16:42
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I'm $20 in singles away from finishing a Legacy deck! It's Burn
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Aug 10, 2018 14:20
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May I instead interest you in my playset of $500 Underground Seas?
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Johnny Five-Jaces posted:May I instead interest you in my playset of $500 Underground Seas? Only after I write the next inexplicable teenage phenomenon and get a sick movie or TV deal.
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Went 4-0 with Jeskai control at my game store. Last week I went 2-2; Lili of the Veils obliterated me. I have removed spell snare and added a Jace. I still don't have enough games to tell if this is correct. Game 1 Infect 2-0 Game one he had the kill in hand, but was worried about being blown. I had no way to stop it if he went for it. Both games were won with stabilizing the board into a Teferi Game 2 Bant Spirits 2-1 I won game one mostly because he flooded. Lost game 2 Game three he mulled to 6, and kept a 1 land hand with Hierarch. I helixed his mana dork, and he never really could catch up. Game 3 Grixis control splashing green for Goyf. 2-0 My deck is far more tuned, and having enough burn in the deck to drop him to 0 makes game 1 much easier. Game 4 Blue white Spirits 2-0 His hands weren't the best, but I think he mostly lost to play mistakes. I was able to bait most of his Spell Quellers into Supreme Verdicts. He did come close to ending me with a turn 3 Geist though. I really want to build Bant Spirits, but I am missing the Mistys
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Aug 11, 2018 17:31
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I told y'all I did. Human Company is a real deck that is pretty good.
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Aug 11, 2018 20:02
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Good god hierarch needs a high volume reprint.
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Aug 11, 2018 20:42
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Cactrot posted:Good god hierarch, colonnade, blackcleave cliffs, Karn Liberated, mox opal, bloodghast, the enemy fetches and goblin lore need a high volume reprint.
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I was just referring to the fact that the hierarchs are almost a third of the cost of the deck above, but yes to that as well
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The funny/sad thing is that the majority of those have been reprinted in the last few years- Hierarch/Karn/Opal in MM15, the enemy fetches in MM17, and Bloodghast in IMA. Print Masters sets at regular pack MSRP IMO. Or start at $5/pack instead of $10 and see how that goes.
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C-Euro posted:The funny/sad thing is that the majority of those have been reprinted in the last few years- Hierarch/Karn/Opal in MM15, the enemy fetches in MM17, and Bloodghast in IMA. Original MM was 7 a pack I think and sold out in what seemed like minutes. They should just do 7 a pack. 10 is stupid.
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be more aggressive about printing modern cards period they put TNN in battlebond and IoK in Conspiracy 2 when its price was out of control, so the first place I would look to print more cards is the summer draft set
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AnEdgelord posted:be more aggressive about printing modern cards period I was glad when Wizards said they were going back to doing Core Sets because it seems like an easy and reliable route to do Modern reprints. People (not so much on SA) have raised a stink about how mythics like Scapeshift and Crucible of Worlds water down the Limited experience but as a filthy rare-drafter I would love to crack one of those during draft.
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They've been using limited as an excuse to ruin constructed for years. Why stop now?
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Errant Gin Monks posted:Original MM was 7 a pack I think and sold out in what seemed like minutes. They should just do 7 a pack. 10 is stupid. I think $8 a pack. Plus use the new battlebond boxes. And you can have 16 pack boxes and an msrp equal to standard boxes.
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Trying to decide what to jam on in legacy for the next few weeks+ Doing the Baltimore Legacy Open in September and I was playing 4c Punishing Dack which is pretty... Iffy now that DRS is gone. I've got access to pretty much everything - Do I jam Lands? OmniTell? Meme Nic Fit? I really can't decide
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Elmon posted:I think $8 a pack. Plus use the new battlebond boxes. And you can have 16 pack boxes and an msrp equal to standard boxes.
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Walked posted:Trying to decide what to jam on in legacy for the next few weeks+ I'm buying back into legacy wqith D&T it seems fun and good and gently caress at least the lands all cost less then $100 each. I have a bunch of poo poo from modern, so I'm down to some lands and the weird $20 white weenies that they've been printing in supplemental sets.
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Walked posted:Trying to decide what to jam on in legacy for the next few weeks+ lands if you have the cards. punishing dack is still A Thing you just have a lot less green in the deck
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Elmon posted:I think $8 a pack. Plus use the new battlebond boxes. And you can have 16 pack boxes and an msrp equal to standard boxes. Nah they were 6.99. Which is really the price they should all be at. 9.99 a pack is idiotic.
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They should be $3 per pack. You don't even have design costs.
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suicidesteve posted:They should be $3 per pack. You don't even have design costs. but but my cardboard futures
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Walked posted:Trying to decide what to jam on in legacy for the next few weeks+ Always Lands.
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EvilBeard posted:Always Lands. Yeah; at this point I'm down to either a) Lands or b) OmniSneak. B is kinda alluring for a long event; but Lands has been my baby for a long time. But man can it be a slog for 10+ round events
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Walked posted:Yeah; at this point I'm down to either a) Lands or b) OmniSneak. I played Lands and Omnitell. Lands wasn't that much worse for long tournaments. Sure, some matchups were a slog, but sometimes they just can't interact with a 20/20 indestructible flyer.
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EvilBeard posted:I played Lands and Omnitell. Lands wasn't that much worse for long tournaments. Sure, some matchups were a slog, but sometimes they just can't interact with a 20/20 indestructible flyer. Oh yeah I agree - I've played lands for years now and run it back at several Opens and GPs. Really just agonizing over nothing probably. I'm just not certain which is in a better position right now - I feel pretty confident with both. For reference I've been seeing a LOT more Storm, Sneak, and Death & Taxes which kinda sucks if you're bringing Lands to a big event.
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I'm happy to report that I've completely flipped on my UW vs Jeskai assesment. With the introduction of another graveyard deck into the format (bridgevine), humans gaining Militia Bugler so they can play long games and the increased presence of Spell Quellers in the meta thanks to Bant spirits I'm completely willing to call in in UW's favor right now. TBH the thing that really pushed me over the edge was watching Paul Rizzi pilot UW at the PT and just eat everyone he faced alive. The overwhelming power of his sideboard and the combined power of JtMS and Teferi make the deck look absolutely unbeatable in a way that Jeskai never looked even before it fell from grace. I dismissed it initially due to a low sample size and experiences with past UW versions but now I'm a believer. I'm picking up my set of JtMS next paycheck
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AnEdgelord posted:I'm happy to report that I've completely flipped on my UW vs Jeskai assesment. Glad you're seeing the light. I've been playing it to every PPTQ I've been at the last while and have never once felt like it was a bad choice. Losses I got were due to me screwing up, or me having a horrible matchup and bad draws, not the deck itself. I've also beaten Jeskai control with it the last few times we've played so I feel pretty confident it's the best control deck. Also when you get good with it and can play it kinda fast it just gets even better. I'd also like to give a shoutout to everyone I've ever played that knew they had lost and just scooped up the cards without making me go through the motions and wasting minutes.
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Fingers McLongDong posted:Glad you're seeing the light. I've been playing it to every PPTQ I've been at the last while and have never once felt like it was a bad choice. Losses I got were due to me screwing up, or me having a horrible matchup and bad draws, not the deck itself. I've also beaten Jeskai control with it the last few times we've played so I feel pretty confident it's the best control deck. Also when you get good with it and can play it kinda fast it just gets even better. I am okay with the rise in U/W since I think Bant Spirits has a slightly favorable matchup against it.
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Mezzanon posted:I am okay with the rise in U/W since I think Bant Spirits has a slightly favorable matchup against it. Not sure if it's favored, it could be. Last time I played spirits at a pptq I just kinda blew the guy out but I could see why it would be favored, what with the deck playing at instant speed and creatures occasionally having hexproof. I like playing that matchup though because it's a fun interactive game regardless.
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Fingers McLongDong posted:Not sure if it's favored, it could be. Last time I played spirits at a pptq I just kinda blew the guy out but I could see why it would be favored, what with the deck playing at instant speed and creatures occasionally having hexproof. I like playing that matchup though because it's a fun interactive game regardless. Agree strongly, there's a lot of play to be had, I side in eidolon of rhetoric against u/w miracles and I am a big fan of how that has been working out for me. Plus sometimes the u/w deck just folds to T2 geist Edit: my friend is bringing this pile to two PPTQ's this weekend (after watching it handily demolish a pptq last week) https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/1267317#paper spicy
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Mezzanon posted:Agree strongly, there's a lot of play to be had, I side in eidolon of rhetoric against u/w miracles and I am a big fan of how that has been working out for me. Plus sometimes the u/w deck just folds to T2 geist Is this winning purely off of recurring spellbomb on the back of bridge/bottled cloister and orbs of warding making sure the user doesn't die? Having crucible main to make sure academy ruins is always available? With Ipnet Rivulet/crucible as another wincon? And jesters cap? I love it.
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Fingers McLongDong posted:Is this winning purely off of recurring spellbomb on the back of bridge/bottled cloister and orbs of warding making sure the user doesn't die? Having crucible main to make sure academy ruins is always available? With Ipnet Rivulet/crucible as another wincon? And jesters cap? yes that is correct. spellbomb and rivulet and jesters cap are the wincons with bridge/cloister/orbs to slow everything down enough to make the lock complete. It's insane
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Mezzanon posted:Edit: my friend is bringing this pile to two PPTQ's this weekend (after watching it handily demolish a pptq last week) https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/1267317#paper Mezzanon posted:yes that is correct. spellbomb and rivulet and jesters cap are the wincons with bridge/cloister/orbs to slow everything down enough to make the lock complete. It's insane What in the gently caress.
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C-Euro posted:What in the gently caress. I have challenged my teammate to win a game with Jester's Cap this weekend
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My Oath opponent had to Force my Jester's Cap in vintage once because the game was over if he didn't.
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suicidesteve posted:My Oath opponent had to Force my Jester's Cap in vintage once because the game was over if he didn't. I sideboarded 3 Jester's Cap in Uba Stax almost the whole time I played it a little over a decade ago. Oath, TPS and some Gifts variants were just dead to the first activation.
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All right, so we were spitballing in the Discord channel about dumb permission decks and I had a terrible idea and should be stabbed to death in an alley for it: Sultai Faeries. Something like Noble Hierarch or Birds of Paradise, Spellstutter Sprite, Bitterblossom, Vendilion Clique, Mistbind Clique, and perhaps Tasigur or Gurmag Angler or Tarmogoyf. Run the usual suspects for spells in those colors with Liliana of the Veil or Liliana, the Last Hope, Thoughtaeizr, Logic Knot, Cryptic Command, Abrupt Decay, and Maelstrom Pulse.
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