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I dropped by the office to turn in my equipment today. Nearly everyone was out of town for the event we were preparing for, but there was 1 dude in the office. I wasn't worried about going there because all my coworkers were very chill (one of the reasons I felt bad quitting). However when I dropped everything off he said that they had told him to "text them immediately when I dropped off my things". It didn't really register at the time but now I have a nagging sense of dread that they were just waiting till I had nothing to hold against them to punish me somehow. I'm probably being paranoid but I can't help it.  Coincidentally, the one person in the office was the other guy who was pressured by the boss to deliver on something that he had explicitly said couldn't be done in time. Surprise surprise, it wasn't, just like predicted. I wonder how many other people were in that same position that I didn't know about. He didn't seem surprised by my quitting abruptly though, and though he didn't go through as much as me he definitely seemed very displeased about the position he was put in. Who knows, maybe me leaving can actually cause some change there. One can hope.
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Aug 7, 2018 05:20
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You did the right thing. Life's too short to work for complete assholes like that. Now you can find something better to do, at a place which respects you. Maybe take a little sanity break first, though. Read some books. Get an ice cream cone. You've earned it.
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Aug 7, 2018 06:36
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gently caress those guys.
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Aug 7, 2018 13:25
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Pollyanna posted:gently caress those guys. Also, you're doing what they secretly wish they could, I guarantee it.
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Aug 7, 2018 13:28
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Taffer posted:However when I dropped everything off he said that they had told him to "text them immediately when I dropped off my things". It didn't really register at the time but now I have a nagging sense of dread that they were just waiting till I had nothing to hold against them to punish me somehow. I'm probably being paranoid but I can't help it. It's because they think you're a flake due to quitting without notice (gently caress them), they're pissed (gently caress them), and they didn't trust you to bring in your stuff. Truly don't worry about it.
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Aug 7, 2018 14:11
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Apparently we're switching from a developers pull from priority queue system to a work is assigned with a priority system. Oh and they just shoveled all the pieces of a story I scored at a 40+ in our last estimation meeting on to me, but they're broken up so hey two iterations NBD, right?  e: on a related note, I don't suppose anyone knows of a pre-built React component/suite that works just like a spreadsheet? Munkeymon fucked around with this message at 16:40 on Aug 7, 2018 |
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Aug 7, 2018 16:36
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Munkeymon posted:e: on a related note, I don't suppose anyone knows of a pre-built React component/suite that works just like a spreadsheet? If you're willing to pay, Kendo UI is apparently the best-in-class. https://www.telerik.com/kendo-react-ui/wrappers/spreadsheet/
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Aug 7, 2018 16:59
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Is there some kind of offline code review tool for stuff that isn't in a repository? I have a sister team that's starting to try to do the right thing but they're all scattered. So they want to start doing code reviews since they have some additional constraints than simple experience keeping them from setting up something like gerrit. I kind of wondered if there was a tool that could do code review feedback and embed the comments in some external file. I don't want to just go in and insert things with magic comment characters.
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Aug 7, 2018 18:38
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vonnegutt posted:If you're willing to pay, Kendo UI is apparently the best-in-class. https://www.telerik.com/kendo-react-ui/wrappers/spreadsheet/ IIRC, there was a goon in one of these threads mentioning bad things about Kendo UI a few months ago, so caveat emptor. Fake Edit: This might have been it: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3571035&userid=28072&perpage=40&pagenumber=7
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Aug 7, 2018 19:04
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The Dark Wind posted:IIRC, there was a goon in one of these threads mentioning bad things about Kendo UI a few months ago, so caveat emptor. Yeah, I thought I remembered someone hating on it. I really just need a grid that can highlight and collapse rows and columns (but with a bunch of arbitrary rules of course!). No cell editing or anything like that.
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Aug 7, 2018 19:07
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So ughhhh a couple of weeks ago I posted that Corporate had basically told us we were all being outsourced to India in the new year and I said gently caress this and bolted for the door. Today I accepted a new 'Lead Front End Developer' role that's 7k more in a company that's got an absolutely baller corporate culture. I walked into the interview and spent 60 minutes basically IRL shitposting and screaming at the project manager, other lead front end dev, and hiring manager, and having them scream back at me. We didn't even do a tech test they just looked at my Github and said, literally 'Yeah you don't seem retarded, we'll fly one of our guys in from London to teach you React(I'm an Angular 2 developer and don't really know a lot of React at all, and at this point am better with TypeScript than vanilla JS.).', 2 hours later I got the call with the offer. Accepted it immediately. Bye bitches.
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Aug 7, 2018 20:05
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Ape Fist posted:I walked into the interview and spent 60 minutes basically IRL shitposting and screaming at the project manager, other lead front end dev, and hiring manager, and having them scream back at me. I have no idea what you mean by this.
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Aug 7, 2018 20:24
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We were very loud, there was a lot of banter, we made a lot of inappropriate jokes, and it was immediately apparent that I was going to fit in with the culture of the office space.
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Aug 7, 2018 20:26
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Awesome, but also I foresee you working on an engineering team with precisely zero women
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Aug 7, 2018 20:35
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Ape Fist posted:We didn't even do a tech test they just looked at my Github and said, literally 'Yeah you don't seem retarded, we'll fly one of our guys in from London to teach you React(I'm an Angular 2 developer and don't really know a lot of React at all, and at this point am better with TypeScript than vanilla JS.).' Cool that you're going to work at a place that uses "retarded" like this.......
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Aug 7, 2018 20:49
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Ape Fist posted:We were very loud, there was a lot of banter, we made a lot of inappropriate jokes, and it was immediately apparent that I was going to fit in with the culture of the office space. Username/post combo, but that's awesome. No one right company for everybody.
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Aug 7, 2018 20:50
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ChickenWing posted:Awesome, but also I foresee you working on an engineering team with precisely zero women Not much of premonition.
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Aug 7, 2018 20:53
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Boiled Water posted:Not much of premonition. Keeping the bar low is a skill of mine
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Aug 7, 2018 20:55
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That's kind of sexist, thinking no women want to banter and make inappropriate jokes.
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Aug 7, 2018 20:56
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Actually 2 of the 3 were women. There were pride flags all over the office because it was pride this week in Belfast. So v0v sometimes people say rude things off the cuff.
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Aug 7, 2018 20:57
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baquerd posted:That's kind of sexist, thinking no women want to banter and make inappropriate jokes. baquerd posted:I've increased my prioritization of a lower-stress work life in recent years. Race and gender don't really factor into that personally, but I find it frequently frustrating working with people who have language barriers or who come from very different cultures. Going from an environment that was highly diverse in that sense to a place that was mostly Americans greatly increased my personal happiness. 
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Aug 7, 2018 21:08
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Rocko Bonaparte posted:Is there some kind of offline code review tool for stuff that isn't in a repository? I have a sister team that's starting to try to do the right thing but they're all scattered. So they want to start doing code reviews since they have some additional constraints than simple experience keeping them from setting up something like gerrit. If you're using Git or another similar distributed source control, how about this: Developer A mails developer B a patch, P1. Developer B sends a patch, P2 to developer A. P2 has P1 as a parent, and contains their review comments and proposed changes to P1. Developer A can view P2 and make changes as necessary then send a new, amended patch, P1' to B, B can rebase P2 into P1' (creating P2') or create an entirely new set of review comments (P2"). Repeat until B signs off. I'm not sure if this is what you're looking for, since I'm not sure what you mean by an offline review tool.
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Aug 7, 2018 23:17
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Amazingly, people can have different preferences and abilities to deal with different types of working environments. I'm not a banter guy for example, but have worked in that type of environment. Not much fun for me so I left.
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Aug 7, 2018 23:41
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Rocko Bonaparte posted:Is there some kind of offline code review tool for stuff that isn't in a repository? A lot of existing code review software will let you just upload a random .diff, annotate it and talk about it -- I know Code Collaborator does since we used that in the dark days of P4, and it sounds like most the other VCS-neutral ones like Review Board, Crucible and so on allow it -- but they all require setting up some sort of server. They're also primarily intended to be integrated with your version control. If you literally want something offline and file-based then emailing .diffs around an talking about them in confusing email threads like a true traditionalist is always an option, I guess? I can't think of any "real" code review tool that is 100% built on manual file exchange though, that's usually one of the first steps those tools try to eliminate. I wouldn't be surprised if one exists somewhere, though.
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Aug 8, 2018 00:39
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Munkeymon posted:Yeah, I thought I remembered someone hating on it. I really just need a grid that can highlight and collapse rows and columns (but with a bunch of arbitrary rules of course!). No cell editing or anything like that. one of the worst software projects i was involved in was someone trying to use kendo ui to put a list of studies on a web page. the project went so poorly that our division was banned from using javascript ui frameworks for years afterwards (this was luckily in 2012 so not much harm was done) because the new architect got sick of people blaming kendo ui for not being able to do stuff. i somehow suspect that it was our fault rather than the kendo's fault, given that we had a critical mass of the stupidest developers i have ever personally known or worked with when they were trying to get that poo poo to work, but i was working on a completely different insane utterly doomed component at that time and couldn't attest personally to it sucking.
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Aug 8, 2018 12:07
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that link in baquerds bio posted:No one's saying slaveowners were better than that, just that slaveowners that didn't take care of their slaves got sub-par returns over the long run. If you look at the most successful slave-owners, you would expect to see a general pattern of excellent treatment of well-behaved slaves.
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Aug 8, 2018 14:57
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I think it's fairly well established that he's kinda a douche and he's taking a job with a bunch of other douches.
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I offered to start the groundwork on a more official end-user/end-to-end QA process for releases that my team does and I've never done this before and I am such a loving idiot for doing this but I want to get a raise within 6 months of starting this job so other than ramping up really quickly I'm trying to think of ways to contribute to the team beyond the requirements of my job. We have some good written tests for our code, but end-user testing is basically getting our customer service people to click around and see if anything breaks right now. Anyway, I'm a loving idiot and don't know what I'm doing 
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Aug 8, 2018 17:45
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bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m posted:I offered to start the groundwork on a more official end-user/end-to-end QA process for releases that my team does and I've never done this before and I am such a loving idiot for doing this but I want to get a raise within 6 months of starting this job so other than ramping up really quickly I'm trying to think of ways to contribute to the team beyond the requirements of my job. We have some good written tests for our code, but end-user testing is basically getting our customer service people to click around and see if anything breaks right now. Sounds like you volunteered to do automated testing for your software.
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Aug 8, 2018 18:03
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Xerophyte posted:A lot of existing code review software will let you just upload a random .diff, annotate it and talk about it -- I know Code Collaborator does since we used that in the dark days of P4, and it sounds like most the other VCS-neutral ones like Review Board, Crucible and so on allow it -- but they all require setting up some sort of server. They're also primarily intended to be integrated with your version control. I don't think these guys have that kung fu to do either. I think I was just looking to be able to annotate in Beyond Compare or something.
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Boiled Water posted:Sounds like you volunteered to do automated testing for your software. yea
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Slimy Hog posted:I think it's fairly well established that he's kinda a douche and he's taking a job with a bunch of other douches. I'm the one taking a job, not him, don't call me a douche I'm really cool irl and online.
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Aug 8, 2018 19:48
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bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m posted:I offered to start the groundwork on a more official end-user/end-to-end QA process for releases that my team does and I've never done this before and I am such a loving idiot for doing this but I want to get a raise within 6 months of starting this job so other than ramping up really quickly I'm trying to think of ways to contribute to the team beyond the requirements of my job. We have some good written tests for our code, but end-user testing is basically getting our customer service people to click around and see if anything breaks right now. You're not getting a raise unless you're blatantly under leveled and they're concerned that you're going to realize this and jump ship for a 50% pay increase. Or you have blackmail material on the owner.
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Oh man I started pair programming today and I dont understand anything. Imposter syndrome ahoy (even after I explained what youd use Redis for to another coworker who had questions). I need to brush up on Ruby, and really regret having a Windows laptop at home haha
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Aug 8, 2018 20:02
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I'm pretty sure if I started pair programming with a senior of any kind I'd immediately choke and forget how to cast a variable type or what an array is.
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Ape Fist posted:I'm the one taking a job, not him, don't call me a douche I'm really cool irl and online. Sorry you're right, you're the one I was talking about, but my comment about how you portrayed your new company still stands. Slimy Hog fucked around with this message at 20:42 on Aug 8, 2018 |
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Aug 8, 2018 20:40
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Does anyone not have that weird psychological thing that makes it impossible to type well when someone else is watching you work? Any time someone sits next to me, my fingers lose all ability to press the right keys at the right time. Shirec posted:really regret having a Windows laptop at home haha VirtualBox up a Linux vm!
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Aug 8, 2018 21:36
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redleader posted:Does anyone not have that weird psychological thing that makes it impossible to type well when someone else is watching you work? Any time someone sits next to me, my fingers lose all ability to press the right keys at the right time. I did when I first started but at this point I've had to type while people are watching enough that I usually don't think about it.
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redleader posted:Does anyone not have that weird psychological thing that makes it impossible to type well when someone else is watching you work? Any time someone sits next to me, my fingers lose all ability to press the right keys at the right time. yes ugh Shirec posted:Oh man I started pair programming today and I don’t understand anything. Imposter syndrome ahoy (even after I explained what you’d use Redis for to another coworker who had questions). I need to brush up on Ruby, and really regret having a Windows laptop at home haha driving pair programming is the single best way to forget everything you've ever known being the passenger in pair programming makes you better at error highlighting than the IDE
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Pair programming takes several weeks of basically full-time application to get used to.
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