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Does anyone know how many points were used to buy stats for the starter set characters? Someone wants to build their own character and I want to make sure they're on par with everyone else.
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The pregen Barbarian has: 16 STR, 14 DEX, 15 CON, 9 INT, 13 WIS, 11 CHA since they're a Human, you subtract one from each stat to remove the race bonus, which gives us: 15, 13, 14, 8, 12, 10 reordering that from highest to lowest gives us 15, 14, 13, 12, 10, 8 The standard array in the PHB, page 13, is 15, 14, 13, 12, 10, 8. It's a match Alternatively: 15 costs 9 points 14 costs 7 points 13 costs 5 points 12 costs 4 points 10 costs 2 points That's a total of 27 points, which is the standard amount you get So use the standard array, or use a 27-point spread.
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Aug 8, 2018 13:23
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The Dregs posted:Oh I've been there before. I am preparing the story now. Link it here when you're done.
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Aug 8, 2018 13:36
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Playing with Order Cleric it's pretty fun and its awesome for healing to not be an entirely missed turn and waste with being able to heal someone to get a second attack off. Also being able to use Healing Word to make someone attack then paste a monster/cast a spell is pretty drat cool.
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Aug 8, 2018 14:43
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The Dregs posted:Oh, I know it. It's already started. I talked to him last night and told him my character was going to be an older guy, maybe early sixties. He said that I'd have to lower his STR and DEX, but I could raise INT and WIS (we're all limited to martial classes, btw). I told him to gently caress off. He said it just wasn't realistic.
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Aug 8, 2018 15:01
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kingcom posted:Oh poo poo I never looked at it like this. Try this one on for size: 3.5e was the tsardom while 5e is the Yeltsin era and beyond.
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Aug 8, 2018 15:37
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3.5 was the compromise of 1850, and 5e is presidential reconstruction
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Aug 8, 2018 15:43
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5e makes the third crusade look like the first crusade
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Aug 8, 2018 15:46
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Arthil posted:So I've got two characters I'm messing around with, and I wanted to dip in to see if I can't catch any advice. 1. Dual-wielding and sword&board is little impediment to a Paladin. There's nothing they cast as a Reaction, in the case of S&B they can use their shield as a Holy Symbol, and in the case of TWF they can just put away one of the weapons as an object interaction to leave the hand free to cast, seeing as they're using either their Action or Bonus Action for that so they're not attacking with both weapons on that turn anyway. Though, don't take the Dual-Wielding Feat until after you've maxed out your DEX; it's an unimpressive feat all told, and really much better for STR dual-wielders who are dealing with random loot drops than for twin rapier guys. 2. What's this pussy-footing? You need to go the Full Meme, man. Half-Orc with a Great Axe, GWM at 4 then after 5 splash the 3 Meme Stalker levels, then back to Samurai as far as the campaign will take you (more Strength). If you start in darkness you open with Zephyr Strike since all your attacks will have advantage anyway, and if the enemy can see you then you use Fighting Spirit instead.
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Aug 8, 2018 15:58
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Ferrinus posted:Try this one on for size: 3.5e was the tsardom while 5e is the Yeltsin era and beyond. 3.5: Obama 4e: Bernie 5e: Hillary Pathfinder 2: Bernie would have won
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Aug 8, 2018 16:22
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gradenko_2000 posted:3.5: Obama Shadow of the Demon Lord: Trump
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Aug 8, 2018 16:33
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American politics: FATAL
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Toebone posted:Shadow of the Demon Lord: Trump ocasio-cortez, actually
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Aug 8, 2018 16:34
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5e with homebrew classes: That one trump guy who got mega drunk and went on a bunch of TV shows
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tote up a bags posted:5e with homebrew classes: That one trump guy who got mega drunk and went on a bunch of TV shows The Mooch?
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Reik posted:The Mooch? Sam Nunberg, chaotic drunk
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Andrast posted:American politics: FATAL 3.5: Churchill 4e: Attlee 5e: Thatcher
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The Dregs posted:Oh, I know it. It's already started. I talked to him last night and told him my character was going to be an older guy, maybe early sixties. He said that I'd have to lower his STR and DEX, but I could raise INT and WIS (we're all limited to martial classes, btw). I told him to gently caress off. He said it just wasn't realistic. Yeah gently caress that poo poo. You guys can only be what? Fighters and Rogues and only take subclasses with no magic? I prefer low magic campaigns but that, to me, means that the PC wizard casting spells is a loving huge deal to them simple folk on the edges of civilization. Or that magic sword the fighter has? That's a huge deal. This no-magic setting, compiled with him limiting the character stats outside of game? Just peace out man, this isn't worth it. It's just going to ruin your table. I guess in his defence I do the same thing with older NPCs that are retired adventurers. I give them all the "Old Man Strength" feat. Which is basically -4 STR/CON unless poo poo gets serious, then it reverses. So that level 10 retired Fighter with the bum leg that looks a big strong but not too much? Yeah you'll beat his 12 STR in a friendly arm wrestle. Try and kill him and take his poo poo? You bet your rear end you tapped into his primal survival and his adrenaline just shot him to 20 STR and you're gunna have a bad time.
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Fighters, rangers, barbarians, rogues, and monks are allowed. We're allowed one cleric, but cleric can only memorize healing and support spells. We have to avoid overtly magical subclasses and reskin any minor magic we end up with as something mundane. As for that, I don't know how much leeway we have, since none bothered to make any magical classes other than the or cleric. Oh and paladins are allowed, but they have to be super ultra 1e lawful good. Also, I can't really just peace out. The game is a weekly social occasion at this point. My wife cooks everyone an awesome meal, and we make a bit of a party of the evening. He's been preparing for so long. I just hope it doesn't end with him pissed at all of us when it falls apart. The Dregs fucked around with this message at 18:05 on Aug 8, 2018 |
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Aug 8, 2018 17:52
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Conspiratiorist posted:1. Dual-wielding and sword&board is little impediment to a Paladin. There's nothing they cast as a Reaction, in the case of S&B they can use their shield as a Holy Symbol, and in the case of TWF they can just put away one of the weapons as an object interaction to leave the hand free to cast, seeing as they're using either their Action or Bonus Action for that so they're not attacking with both weapons on that turn anyway. Though, don't take the Dual-Wielding Feat until after you've maxed out your DEX; it's an unimpressive feat all told, and really much better for STR dual-wielders who are dealing with random loot drops than for twin rapier guys. I'll keep that in mind for the Paladin, wouldn't be hard to keep a shield handy just in case. And man, I know. But I've already really dug in with the Bugbear thing and am digging it. Currently being at Level 4, with enough "downtime days" to just bump me right to 5 if I wanted. Think I should keep Polearm Master, or maybe swap that out for GWM to start off with? I do like the fact that I could whack an enemy from 15-ft away and then basically get a free AoO when they step in closer to get to me on their own turn. It should be noted that none of my characters except for my half-orc kensei monk are in what you'd call a "campaign". Everything else is just my local community event stuff, where they give the structure of hopping between games but not the restrictions on leveling/loot/book use. Also, gently caress. I hadn't even given thought about Umbral Sight giving Advantage. Oh that'll be fantastic... Now to steal the rest of the parties torches. Arthil fucked around with this message at 18:20 on Aug 8, 2018 |
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Aug 8, 2018 18:15
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MonsterEnvy posted:Cause it's kind of hypocritical for you to come in here and constantly complain about the game and nothing else. Also I'd give 5e the 3rd best position. After 4e and BECMI, which both do their own thing and do it (mostly) well. The Dregs posted:Fighters, rangers, barbarians, rogues, and monks are allowed. We're allowed one cleric, but cleric can only memorize healing and support spells. We have to avoid overtly magical subclasses and reskin any minor magic we end up with as something mundane. As for that, I don't know how much leeway we have, since none bothered to make any magical classes other than the or cleric. It totally sounds like a disaster in the making, but who knows? Maybe it'll end up somehow rocking? Or be mostly good with some weird warts? It's kind of a truism at this point that a good group can have fun with a bad game. (With the caveats that a bad DM will ruin all that, and a good game would be better.)
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gradenko_2000 posted:3.5: Obama gurps: senator james traficant
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dwarf74 posted:Yeah, but Arivia was being really dumb there, just like you're being, here. Hey, I'm almost already in a no/low-magic campaign in terms of the players with my monk! The Paladin multi-classing into Druid at level 6, the 2/2 Ranger/Druid split who I think finally took more levels in one or the other. Basically no one is a spellcaster above 3rd level spells, and we've already had a Fireball dropped on us by an enemy spellcaster. The Paladin also seems to not use the magic spear they got over their halberd, despite having no real reason to use it(such as having Polearm Mastery). So far I think the only competent damage we have is my monk, the 1 Rogue/5 Barbarian, and the new character of the Warlock that got turned into a smear on the pavement that's a Battle Master DEX-Fighter.
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Serf posted:ocasio-cortez, actually I didn’t know AOC was into scat lit.
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Rifts: Republican in fighting
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Arthil posted:Also, gently caress. I hadn't even given thought about Umbral Sight giving Advantage. Oh that'll be fantastic... Now to steal the rest of the parties torches. For real, Gloom Stalker is incredibly strong with how ubiquitous darkness is.
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For people who have played a Vengeance Paladin, how often do you use Abjure Enemy over Vow of Enmity? The ability to frighten one enemy with a chance to save which breaks on damage seems like complete dogshit compared to guaranteed advantage against an enemy of my choice for the whole fight.
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Conspiratiorist posted:For real, Gloom Stalker is incredibly strong with how ubiquitous darkness is. The best thing is that given the insane reach from a Bugbear, I could be in an area that is considered darkness while the enemy is in dim light and still hit them. That'll depend heavily on whether a DM thinks about that kind of thing though. "It's all dim light?" "Yup... " "What's causing that then?" "Uhh... "
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Cassa posted:It's what got me into it. When they swapped editions, it was pretty hilarious to watch Kurtz realise how one note the new cleric was in comparison. Man I was at this liveshow and it was such a shitstorm. The pre-game podcast: Mike K - Yeah this Wizard is pretty sweet I guess. I only played 4e so break down this Spell Slot thing. Jerry - Speaking of 4e, I really loved how Healing Word encouraged Clerics to be more than Healbots, how does your 1 Action rule change that? Scott - Fighters have no options so I've been drawing Binwin for the past 20 minutes. Mike K - So Wheatons playing. What does the 5e Avenger look like? Mearls/Chris - *stammer about how cool the new flexible class is while debating between Ranger and Cleric* The actual game: Wil - I lower my sword at him, time to die motherfucker *spits out Elven catchphrase*, Oath of Enmity! Chris - BTW that's a 10 minute ritual now.
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My gnome illusionist guy just went from 4th to 5th, any pro spell picks i should make? Playing Strahd.
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I thought this was a 5e thread. I'll return us to the topic with shameless promotion. :p http://www.dmsguild.com/product/203993/The-Minotaurs-of-the-Stonelands
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sebmojo posted:My gnome illusionist guy just went from 4th to 5th, any pro spell picks i should make? Playing Strahd. Hypnotic pattern, counterspell, dispel magic. I forget how Barovia works but Leomunds’s Tiny Hut if that works there.
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Counterspell and Dispel Magic are both great. Looking at whatever magic bullshit is messing with you and just going "nope" is fantastic. Some DMs get lovely about it when you frequently bypass their magic bullshit, and start to "compensate" with various anti-dispel tricks as if "burn a high-level-for-you spell slot to overcome a specific problem" isn't what all spellcasters do all the time.
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Aug 8, 2018 22:42
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Counterspell gets worse if you use the spell identification rules from XGtE, so check with your DM. Identifying a spell takes a reaction and a skill check, so either you have an ally ID it for you and yell it out or you blindly counterspell an unknown spell of an unknown level. Still not bad, but worse than the pre-XGtE counterspell.
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AlphaDog posted:Counterspell and Dispel Magic are both great. Looking at whatever magic bullshit is messing with you and just going "nope" is fantastic. Our party almost got ourselves nuked into the ground by three red mages in our current game of ToA. I think the only thing that prevented all of us dying was when our wizard managed to get off a counterspell that stopped the second fireball from being dropped on us. That and Xandala dominating one of them to set a fireball off in his own face.
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Elysiume posted:Counterspell gets worse if you use the spell identification rules from XGtE, so check with your DM. Identifying a spell takes a reaction and a skill check, so either you have an ally ID it for you and yell it out or you blindly counterspell an unknown spell of an unknown level. Still not bad, but worse than the pre-XGtE counterspell. Why do you need to know exactly what spell it is to counter it? Paladin can cure a disease without knowing what it is with Lay on Hands so I would just assume you could do that. Or, alternatively, as part of your counterspell reaction you ID the spell before you cast?
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That’s what I meant by blind countering. You can’t be sure if they’re casting Magic Missile or Blight, so you just need to counterspell and hope for the best. If they were casting MM you all but wasted your reaction and spell slot. If they were casting Blight, you missed your opportunity to heighten the Counterspell for a guaranteed counter. If you heighten without knowing the spell, it's an even bigger waste in the MM case. A canny sorcerer can bait out a counterspell with a cantrip, then quicken a more impressive spell after the enemy wizard has burnt their reaction. Counterspell still has its uses, but it's less powerful when you're forced to work with partial information.
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Aug 8, 2018 23:44
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Part of me kind of likes a free Arcana check vs the enemy's DC to see if you know exactly whats coming out before you gamble on casting counterspell, but it could get tedious if you're spiting players rather than making it more tense.
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Often such fine print is there so GMs and Modules can just go "Shut up! It's an entirely unique spell/item that you can't possibly know, so works without a hitch!". While ALSO allowing NPCs to use their GM meta gaming powers to always know what the PC is casting. 4th ed disenchant item was explicitly only allowed to disenchant "Anything the player accessible enchant item spell could make" style rules just so people couldn't turn the One Ring into magical money powder, for example. See also: Stealth rules. No matter how complex or how basic stealth and perception rules are. From DnD to HERO, it often to mean gently caress all to NPCs and they'll get their mandated ambush. Section Z fucked around with this message at 01:14 on Aug 9, 2018 |
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