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Mzuri posted:Someone I know just launched https://uspolads.com/, which is very interesting project to track the spending and stats on US political ads on Facebook. This is neat, but strange to scroll through. Some of these ads have a crazy gender breakdown. Like 90%+ men or women for certain ads. And some woman is spending tens of thousands of dollars to run an ad for a petition to ban a Sandy Hook video game?
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Condiv posted:watching dems hyperventilate cause the green party "cost" them an election again is p hilarious I love this poo poo because it always puts front and center how loving garbage the vast majority of the democratic party is.
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Aug 8, 2018 16:26
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Were there enough Green party votes to flip it?
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Condiv posted:watching dems hyperventilate cause the green party "cost" them an election again is p hilarious It's especially stupid because those people generally wouldn't otherwise vote Democratic (so you might as well direct that same anger at any non-voter, or even, you know, Republican voters!). Even a couple liberal posters in another thread were pointing this out, but they were lost in the sea of people acting like the Green Party are worse than Nazis. I always try to point out how bizarre and disproportionate mainstream liberal hatred towards the Green Party or figures like Glenn Greenwald is, but it always falls on deaf ears. I don't even like either of those things, but it's just transparently obvious that the level of vitriol aimed their way is crazy and makes no sense. I would go as far as to say that liberals seem to hate them even more than any Republican save arguably Trump himself.
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Radish posted:Were there enough Green party votes to flip it? Nope
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Ytlaya posted:It's especially stupid because those people generally wouldn't otherwise vote Democratic (so you might as well direct that same anger at any non-voter, or even, you know, Republican voters!). Even a couple liberal posters in another thread were pointing this out, but they were lost in the sea of people acting like the Green Party are worse than Nazis. Democrats just simply believe every vote that isn't for a Republican is owed to them.
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Aug 8, 2018 17:06
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Radish posted:Were there enough Green party votes to flip it? Nope but that's not the point to liberals though. The point is that their votes were the sovereign property of the Democratic National Corporation to be used strictly and solely as they see fit. In their minds, it isn't the job of Democratic party to support you but for you to support Democrats and it makes these shitheads extremely mad when they see the faintest display that other people don't agree.
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Aug 8, 2018 17:07
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Radish posted:Were there enough Green party votes to flip it? nope. green voters also made up 0.6% of the total vote also, that 0.6% are apparently russian puppets
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Aug 8, 2018 17:12
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So the lesson according to them is Russia isn't influential enough to flip elections??
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Radish posted:So the lesson according to them is Russia isn't influential enough to flip elections?? no u see if they had that 0.6 it'd be close enough that they could trigger a recount! not that they'd ever do that cause they're spineless worms, but russia deprived them of that opportunity and now those traitors will pay!! 
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no those drat greens are the entitled ones!! https://twitter.com/billyeichner/status/1027013995205517313
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Cerebral Bore posted:If a party is so weak that it consistently has to rely on a voting block of less than one percent in order to win, then maybe said party needs some serious reforms instead of a serious sense of entitlement? this is the same argument used to handwave away gerrymandering and voter suppression, though
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Cease to Hope posted:this is the same argument used to handwave away gerrymandering and voter suppression, though 
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Cease to Hope posted:this is the same argument used to handwave away gerrymandering and voter suppression, though If you really think about it, the benefits of genuinely fighting against gerrymandering and voter suppression and to be seen to be doing so are more or less the same as screaming at people who's votes you feel you are owed and blaming e: whoops wrong decade of blaming third party voters stupidly, sorry hobotrashcanfires fucked around with this message at 18:18 on Aug 8, 2018 |
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https://twitter.com/KSlattery1234/status/1027014127250636800 this person seems to be missing the fact that voting for the dems won't result in ranked choice voting even when voters vote to have it implemented, dems fight it, cause that lack of democracy helps them hold minority groups hostage
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hobotrashcanfires posted:If you really think about it, the benefits of genuinely fighting against gerrymandering and voter suppression and to be seen to be doing so are more or less the same as screaming at people who's votes you feel you are owed and blaming embracing the "system is good, no problems" pov is as dumb as yelling at greens for not voting for democrats. the problem is structural. preferential voting and other non-FPTP systems get the green voters who'd prefer a dem onside without haranguing or disenfranchising them
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Aug 8, 2018 18:32
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Nobody's said that the system is good, just that the Dem establishment doesn't seem interested in fixing the system or even playing the current one effectively.
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How come the dems are refusing to compromise and triangulate if they believe they need the green vote to win? Maybe they should adopt a green policy or two. It’s the sensible thing to do after all.
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Cease to Hope posted:embracing the "system is good, no problems" pov is as dumb as yelling at greens for not voting for democrats. the problem is structural. preferential voting and other non-FPTP systems get the green voters who'd prefer a dem onside without haranguing or disenfranchising them I'm curious who exactly you think is embracing "system is good, no problems", if not the democratic party? They aren't meaningfully fighting gerrymandering or voter suppression, let alone fighting for better systems of voting than FPTP. The latter they largely like very much, because it goes an awful long way toward ensuring the two firmly entrenched political parties will never be uprooted.
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hobotrashcanfires posted:I'm curious who exactly you think is embracing "system is good, no problems", if not the democratic party? here are two very compatible statements: democrats are bad do not use boring pro-status-quo arguments to punch left
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Cease to Hope posted:here are two very compatible statements: You really ought to spell out what you're arguing against, why, and what you're arguing for. These curt replies serve only as cryptic rebuttals. Maybe elucidate a bit.
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Aug 8, 2018 19:12
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Why are all of Amy Klobuchar's primary opponents terrible? 
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Aug 8, 2018 19:32
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Here's the Pod Save America interview with Ocasio-Cortez https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxFlBGvPgF8
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theblackw0lf posted:Here's the Pod Save America interview with Ocasio-Cortez Did they edit her too?
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Condiv posted:https://twitter.com/KSlattery1234/status/1027014127250636800 The most offensive is "Bernie and socialists don't have a platform of their own."
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Radish posted:Were there enough Green party votes to flip it? Last I checked there were like 1100 Green voters, the Dem was down by ~1700 votes, and there were roughly 3000 provisional ballots left. This was as of last night via Twitter tho so ymmv.
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Office Pig posted:To offset that ratty little bastard, Rashida managed to knock off the Conyers kid in MI-13. Probably will get attacked for ousting a promising African American candidate. And if it was the other way around and she was more centrist and he was more leftist, he'd get attacked for challenging a promising woman of color. You can't win. Pakistani Brad Pitt fucked around with this message at 21:18 on Aug 8, 2018 |
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https://twitter.com/danagould/status/1027228071722532864 i can't believe this russian stooge cost the dems this election by... getting so little votes that the dems wouldn't have won even if every green party voter voted D instead! https://twitter.com/neilkli/status/1027028792303411200 Condiv fucked around with this message at 21:45 on Aug 8, 2018 |
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Jealous is ready to own you with Logic. https://twitter.com/BenJealous/status/1027372099080474625
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Office Pig posted:Jealous is ready to own you with Logic. is this when he tried to spin "YEA I TOTALLY TALK WITH INVESTORS ABOUT WHAT TO DO ALL THE TIME THAT'S HOW CAPITALIST I AM" as a woke cool thing
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:someone was talking a few days ago about how Jealous got investors to support their small business and that's why they're gonna vote for him and I forget who said "well if he pays me I'll vote for him too I guess" yea Jealous is a good guy on the whole but his handling of the ~scary socialist~ thing being 'actually bitch I love being an unfettered matchmaker for friends to profit off the capitalist system as long as they support me!' was a real bad idea
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sexpig by night posted:yea Jealous is a good guy on the whole but his handling of the ~scary socialist~ thing being 'actually bitch I love being an unfettered matchmaker for friends to profit off the capitalist system as long as they support me!' was a real bad idea A good take, although his saying “gently caress” to spice up his “I love venture capital!” claims feels very Tom Perez-ian. Who, as we all know, exudes competence and charisma.
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The evidence for "Ben Jealous is a good guy" rests solely on his endorsing Bernie in 2016, let's not get ahead of ourselves
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It's still hilarious when people are trying to shore up their credibility by going 'I'm a proud capitalist!!' because I'm pretty sure it impresses literally nobody.
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Condiv posted:https://twitter.com/danagould/status/1027228071722532864 Panspermia is real, sorry dana "there is no dana only" gould sexpig by night posted:is this when he tried to spin "YEA I TOTALLY TALK WITH INVESTORS ABOUT WHAT TO DO ALL THE TIME THAT'S HOW CAPITALIST I AM" as a woke cool thing I don't think as a "woke cool thing," more like "hey if this is the only soundbite you hear from me all season i promise I'm not Maoist" which might undercut his message with some people but probably strikes a nice average overall Inspector Hound fucked around with this message at 13:19 on Aug 9, 2018 |
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Inspector Hound posted:I don't think as a "woke cool thing," more like "hey if this is the only soundbite you hear from me all season i promise I'm not Maoist" which might undercut his message with some people but probably strikes a nice average overall Who is the average appealing to, though? poo poo's so polarized that there's no audience for it.
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Cerebral Bore posted:Who is the average appealing to, though? poo poo's so polarized that there's no audience for it. Big donors.
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