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lizardman posted:Making movies is cheaper and easier than ever and is only going to get more so. I really think we're only a few years away from people being able to record home videos from their phones that look like slick Ridley Scott movies and create custom home-made CGI footage from software as ubiquitous as Photoshop. In fact if anything I'm kind of disquieted at the idea of the barriers to entry for filmmaking becoming extremely low. Imagine your neighbor telling you "Oh hey my 10-year-old just made his first movie, some big fantasy Lord of the Rings spectacle thing. It's up on Netflix if you're interested." Tangerine was Oscar nominated and it was literally shot on an iPhone. Tangerine is loving great
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I liked this movie but I didn't realize all the satanism stuff was supposed to be taken literally.
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brotato posted:I liked this movie but I didn't realize all the satanism stuff was supposed to be taken literally. Don't let anybody tell you how literally you're supposed to take things, particularly Satanism stuff in movies.
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Jul 6, 2018 16:49
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Satan is all in their/your head and also real
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brotato posted:I liked this movie but I didn't realize all the satanism stuff was supposed to be taken literally. 
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Jul 6, 2018 16:53
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brotato posted:I liked this movie but I didn't realize all the satanism stuff was supposed to be taken literally. I don't know why it wouldn't be.
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Jul 6, 2018 17:28
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I don't recall Satan being brought up in the movie
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Jul 6, 2018 17:41
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It was about PaiMon, the Jamaican loan shark
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Magic Hate Ball posted:I don't know why it wouldn't be. Why would it be? Everything felt pretty consistent with schizophrenic delusions/paranoia. The weird religious symbolism, everything manifesting after a traumatic incident, the random members of the community "stalking" and manipulating them, the fact that no one else but the mom and kids seem to see the paranormal stuff made it seem like none of the demons and possession was real. The ending struck me as a final, reality breaking delusion fabricated by peter. I was just surprised to see that online everyone thought the demons were real and even the director wanted us to take that seriously. I don't watch a lot of horror tho so maybe that's why I thought it was so weird.
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brotato posted:Why would it be? I dunno, that just seems like such a literal interpretation, and it makes it messier than it needs to be (and already is). The film says what it needs to about hereditary mental issues via its own internal mythology, there's no reason for an interlocutor when the film itself is presenting us with a metaphor.
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veni veni veni posted:It was about PaiMon, the Jamaican loan shark Veni veni veni, I expel you for this post!
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brotato posted:Why would it be? The craftsmanship is superb and the movie succeeds as a family drama, psych thriller, and satanic horror piece by executing each bit masterfully.
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Jul 6, 2018 21:00
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There are still select images from this movie stored in my mind for the worst possible times
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Henchman of Santa posted:There are still select images from this movie stored in my mind for the worst possible times Same. It’s given me a whole new catalog of things to imagine seeing in dark corners when I wake up in the middle of the night.
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When I was a kid, I slept in a room where the closet was at the foot of my bed. I had to always keep it shut at night otherwise I couldn't sleep with even a crack of the darkness of the closet visible because of how easy it was to imagine something lurking and peeking out of there. Needless to say this movie hosed my poo poo up and I, a grown rear end man with a career and retirement portfolio etc., had trouble walking between rooms in my apartment with the lights off at night for like four days lol.
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Jul 8, 2018 23:17
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Paimon wasn't made up for this movie, although the 'male host' bit was. He's a demon from the Lesser Key of Solomon, a compilation of magical texts made between the 14th and 16th centuries. The symbol that shows up associated with the cult is actually his seal as illustrated in the book. It's not really linked to modern ideas of Satanism in any way, and is closer to older European (and other) ideas of magic where the magic is basically about the proper ways to ask/compel powerful/spiritual beings to do stuff for you.
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Henchman of Santa posted:There are still select images from this movie stored in my mind for the worst possible times loving naked wicca boomer lookin asses man what the hell
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Nitevision posted:When I was a kid, I slept in a room where the closet was at the foot of my bed. I had to always keep it shut at night otherwise I couldn't sleep with even a crack of the darkness of the closet visible because of how easy it was to imagine something lurking and peeking out of there. you know what's hereditary for me? yer retirement portfolio 
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Jul 11, 2018 09:14
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ay for real is the clicking sound a thing paimon was said to in Ye Olde Texte or just a branding for the movie ala snapping your fingers westside story style Tenzarin posted:Kinda strange to let an old lady breast feed the child. Really the whole movie could of been solved just with some common sense. annie should have called the cops on their witch asses. white people love snitchin, it's what they do best Alan Smithee fucked around with this message at 09:41 on Jul 11, 2018 |
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Jul 11, 2018 09:31
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Snitches get witches
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Jul 11, 2018 15:23
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Alan Smithee posted:annie should have called the cops on their witch asses. white people love snitchin, it's what they do best annie not calling the cops is how i knew the movie was fiction and not a documentary.
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Jul 11, 2018 15:54
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This is a genuinely disturbing, uncomfortable film. Magnificently atmospheric and creepy, with fantastically fleshed-out and believable characters culminating in an experience that made me feel absolutely sick to my stomach and unable to look away. A seriously tense examination of guilt, blame, psychopathy and the looming fear that you've hurt the people closest to you in ways you can't atone for. For about an hour and forty five minutes then it became about summoning the loving devil. Seriously, the ending of the film is so loving silly compared to the rest of it they had to go with atonal credits music because it was impossible to play straight. Overall I really enjoyed the movie still, but everything that made it feel special was in the first 70%.
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Jul 11, 2018 17:17
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Mental issues and loss are hell.
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CelticPredator posted:Mental issues and loss are hell. 
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Calico Heart posted:
i think putting it in the treehouse was weird like what is this a treehouse club
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Jul 11, 2018 23:48
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it's a safe place for Charlie.
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I'm fine with the supernatural/satan stuff because along with the dollhouse images it reinforces the idea that the mental illnesses people inherit from their hosed up families are largely out of their control. Everyone in this movie is being manipulated by another force.
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Elderbean posted:I'm fine with the supernatural/satan stuff because along with the dollhouse images it reinforces the idea that the mental illnesses people inherit from their hosed up families are largely out of their control. Everyone in this movie is being manipulated by another force. Which is VERY SUBTLY hinted at when characters in the movie y’all about other fictional characters whose lives are out of their control, and agree that that’s very tragic (I promise I did like this movie, I just think that the shift towards the end comes at the expense of some more interesting stuff and they could have combined the two)
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Alan Smithee posted:i think putting it in the treehouse was weird CelticPredator posted:it's a safe place for Charlie. It's basically turns out to be a chapel in the end, a chapel of eeeeeeeeeeeevil.
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Calico Heart posted:This is a genuinely disturbing, uncomfortable film. Magnificently atmospheric and creepy, with fantastically fleshed-out and believable characters culminating in an experience that made me feel absolutely sick to my stomach and unable to look away. A seriously tense examination of guilt, blame, psychopathy and the looming fear that you've hurt the people closest to you in ways you can't atone for.
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Wow...what a strange and depressing movie this was....not sure on if I liked it or hated it
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After having watched this, I think I looked a lot like my own avatar.
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How big was that tree house? Could they really not solve the who took two bodies out of cemetery in a few weeks?
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This is the only film of 2018 that I've seen twice. Still my favorite of the year by far.
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Thinking on it again, was the iconography of the cult supposed to be slightly ironic? At the end, whats-her-face states that the cult reject the trinity, but their summoning 'circle' is a triangle, the symbol of Paiman is three people on a beast and at the end there are three decapitated women.
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Samovar posted:Thinking on it again, was the iconography of the cult supposed to be slightly ironic? At the end, whats-her-face states that the cult reject the trinity, but their summoning 'circle' is a triangle, the symbol of Paiman is three people on a beast and at the end there are three decapitated women. I believe a lot of that comes from general demonic folklore of mocking the trinity by still using the triangle/three as a holy number and inverting it.
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I will occasionally think of Gabriel Byrne "enough with this poo poo" performance in this movie and laugh to myself. He's a totally underrated part of Hereditary.
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Samovar posted:Thinking on it again, was the iconography of the cult supposed to be slightly ironic? At the end, whats-her-face states that the cult reject the trinity, but their summoning 'circle' is a triangle, the symbol of Paiman is three people on a beast and at the end there are three decapitated women. Three is special\holy all over the world, in all sorts of systems. Rejecting the capital T Trinity is something specific.
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Alan Smithee posted:ay for real is the clicking sound a thing paimon was said to in Ye Olde Texte or just a branding for the movie ala snapping your fingers westside story style The clicking is a very distinct and memorable sound that very early learn to associate with a certain character which makes it spooky when you hear that sound once the character is dead. All the witches are middle aged white people and you can't exactly call the cops and accuse someone of witchcraft. And even then she doesn't figure out the satanism angle until it's far too late to do anything about it. FreudianSlippers fucked around with this message at 00:56 on Aug 11, 2018 |
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