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DrPossum posted:ME3 was really bad in general. Like ME1 was interesting and new with genuine world building that's one point in favor of the game being good, now try listing some of its bad qualities
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QuarkJets posted:now try listing some of its bad qualities How about removing an entire main character just so they could sell him as day one DLC?
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Aug 10, 2018 01:59
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Sardonik posted:You're almost there, but the original options were: IMHO, the game was in an unrecoverable corner when they decided they had to explain what the reapers were and their motivation. Sovereign in ME1 being like, "we are beyond your comprehension, you will end because we demand it," was enough. If you picked the option where you killed the Geth you're a stupid fucker and I'm glad you hated the game.  If you romanced Tali or Liara you're probably a weird creeper and whoever wrote them belongs on a watch list.
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Aug 10, 2018 02:23
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DrPossum posted:
Okay, I'm gonna play Mass Effect now.
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Aug 10, 2018 02:37
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oh dope posted:I was shocked when I realized I had just beat the game. You spend the whole game making choices and alliances that seemingly matter, but then there's two fairly easy fights with no real build up to speak of, and boom, you won the game. Uhh what? I left Tyranny alone because I figured “I don’t have time for a huge epic RPG rn, let’s dive into this later with full attention” Say I’ve just spoken with the adjudicator (guy with the masks), am I still in the early game? I’ve made a few choices that seem important
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Aug 10, 2018 02:40
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mass effect 3 is a really good game if you just pretend it's a mass effect 2 dlc where you go straight to tuchanka and kill a reaper and probably also that piece of poo poo traitor mordin, because everything that happens with the reaper and the thresher maw on tuchanka is badass and should have been the finale where you destroy the reapers once and for all
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Aug 10, 2018 02:55
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Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:Uhh what? I left Tyranny alone because I figured “I don’t have time for a huge epic RPG rn, let’s dive into this later with full attention” Yes, I'd say you're likely within the first third still. It's not that short. It's shorter than most CRPGs yes, but it's still a solid experience on its own, even without taking into account how hard the game branches leading to excellent replay value. There's like 4 core separate runs that each have significant differences in story, dialog, and even levels: Side with Chorus Side with Disfavored Side with the invaded population against the overlord Side with nobody and go it alone. Also the magic system is good and you can, and are encouraged, to troll the poo poo out of everybody.
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Aug 10, 2018 02:57
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poverty goat posted:mass effect 3 is a really good game if you just pretend it's a mass effect 2 dlc where you go straight to tuchanka and kill a reaper and probably also that piece of poo poo traitor mordin, because everything that happens with the reaper and the thresher maw on tuchanka is badass and should have been the finale where you destroy the reapers once and for all I think the game would have been better if they would have used the plot point from the Citadel DLC where the main antagonist is a clone of Shepard. Instead of just being a stand alone bad guy they would be leading the Reaper's army. I mainly want this because it would be amazing to be able to choose the appearance of both the hero and villain at the same time.
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Aug 10, 2018 03:21
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Vakal posted:How about removing an entire main character just so they could sell him as day one DLC? Iirc they didn't have the budget to fully implement him in the base game and their options were to sell him as DLC or remove him from the game entirely
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Aug 10, 2018 04:58
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Vakal posted:My favorite part of the open palm/closed fist system was when you meet an ancient evil ghost who would refuse to help you unless you could prove you were a follower of the closed fist path. The most frustrating part imo was the alignment system. So the game sets up the alignment system as Open Palm/Closed Fist and even describes at length why it isn’t Good/Evil—Open Palm philosophy is about harmony and cooperation, so you help people but you also potentially rob them of the chance to grow and better themselves through struggle. By contrast Closed Fist is about embracing conflict as a means of bettering oneself. So if you saw someone asking for help, an Open Palm would help and a Closed Fist wouldn’t unless the odds were ridiculously stacked against him or he stood to benefit in some way but not simply out of cruelty. Conversely, a person who decided that they had the power and the right to impose order by force would also be Open Palm. Of course in-game virtually all the options end up being the basic Good/Evil. The worst example I can think of is a quest where you find a woman trying to escape a slaver. The Open Palm resolution is to set her free and kill the slaver. There are two Closed Fist solutions: 1. Give her a knife and tell her to kill the slaver and free herself (fits the philosophy perfectly and the only in game example I can think of) 2. Sell her back to the slaver (gives you more Closed Fist points!) It’s a fine game and all, but it’s such a waste opportunity to set up a nuanced system like that and just waste it.
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Aug 10, 2018 05:20
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Wow 3 pages of bitching about ME and no one brought up the creepy abusive romance option where you seduce the psychologically damaged biotic after killing her captors? I've done a lot of hosed up poo poo in video games but the Jack romance is easily, without question, the cringiest thing ive ever seen in a western video game, and im including the literal sniper rifle demon abortion sequence from Devil May Cry's reboot
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Aug 10, 2018 06:04
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Bust Rodd posted:Wow 3 pages of bitching about ME and no one brought up the creepy abusive romance option where you seduce the psychologically damaged biotic after killing her captors? I've done a lot of hosed up poo poo in video games but the Jack romance is easily, without question, the cringiest thing ive ever seen in a western video game, and im including the literal sniper rifle demon abortion sequence from Devil May Cry's reboot I guess you think victims of abuse are damaged goods and can never feel joy or love again? smh
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Aug 10, 2018 06:15
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fruit on the bottom posted:The most frustrating part imo was the alignment system. Of course, selling her back to the slaver creates an opportunity for her to free herself again
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Aug 10, 2018 06:16
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TheScott2K posted:Syndicate 2012 was good enough for sequels It's underrated for sure, I think it's one of the better cyberpunk games.
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Aug 10, 2018 06:29
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Bust Rodd posted:Wow 3 pages of bitching about ME and no one brought up the creepy abusive romance option where you seduce the psychologically damaged biotic after killing her captors? I've done a lot of hosed up poo poo in video games but the Jack romance is easily, without question, the cringiest thing ive ever seen in a western video game, and im including the literal sniper rifle demon abortion sequence from Devil May Cry's reboot The romances with crew members are also creepy af
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Aug 10, 2018 06:38
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lol basically every Bioware romance is creepy
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Aug 10, 2018 06:39
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QuarkJets posted:lol basically every Bioware romance is creepy I actually think the witcher 1 sex cards are better, they're straight up 'yeah you hosed'
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Aug 10, 2018 06:46
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Also from a logistical standpoint, if a shredded gravelly voiced dude saved literally everyone you know from a gryphon and the only thing you know about him is that he’s super strong, magic, can’t get you sick OR EVEN GET YOU PREGNANT and also your entire dating pool is the 8 men in your village who are all related then there’s no reason not to. The relationship writing in Mass Effect games seemed written by someone who was clearly a virgin who felt the need to double down on “totally knowing how sex goes” and whoops it’s too late now I’m in charge of the sex quests!
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Aug 10, 2018 06:58
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Bust Rodd posted:if a shredded gravelly voiced dude saved literally everyone you know Sounds like Shepard. *this isn't really a defense of Mass Effect sex quests, in the sense that I'd call them good writing doverhog fucked around with this message at 07:32 on Aug 10, 2018 |
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Aug 10, 2018 07:30
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Zombie Driver HD would be a far better game if it played like the GTAIV/V driving game rather than a GTA 1 or 2 driving game.
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Aug 10, 2018 07:42
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Sardonik posted:The thing about all the races being separated was speculation based on the destruction of the mass relays in all endings, which was a very good point but the extended ending established that they just rebuilt them. I thought the whole point of the relays was that they couldn't be rebuilt by anybody but the reapers
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Aug 10, 2018 07:45
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sebmojo posted:I actually think the witcher 1 sex cards are better, they're straight up 'yeah you hosed' Those are actually way worse
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Aug 10, 2018 07:51
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QuarkJets posted:Those are actually way worse It's a single picture that briefly fishes on the screen versus excruciatingly long scenes of "tasteful" and "meaningful" depictions of two Barbie dolls loving. the same criticism applies for the Witcher sequels as well
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Aug 10, 2018 07:58
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Mass Effect started getting bad and stupid in the second game, the third game just continued the trend downwards. Dealing with ME1 combat is preferable to dealing with all the terrible writing and endless author fapping to cerberus, aria and kai leng.
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Aug 10, 2018 08:10
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steinrokkan posted:It's a single picture that briefly fishes on the screen versus excruciatingly long scenes of "tasteful" and "meaningful" depictions of two Barbie dolls loving. the same criticism applies for the Witcher sequels as well Nah you still get the barbie doll loving, it's just blurry and in the background behind the card reveal. Meanwhile you can take solace in the fact that you're collecting binders full of women
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Aug 10, 2018 08:34
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Not to extend the mass effect talk, but my main point wasnt very well formulated since i had just beat the game when i posted. I mostly meant that people who say the ending is bad because it "makes no sense" or "its just some coloured lights" are loving idiots and never played the game
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QuarkJets posted:Nah you still get the barbie doll loving, it's just blurry and in the background behind the card reveal. Meanwhile you can take solace in the fact that you're collecting binders full of women I didnt know the witcher was like Pokemon A. Beaverhausen fucked around with this message at 11:48 on Aug 10, 2018 |
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Aug 10, 2018 11:26
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All Bioware games are 100% bad. How's that for an unpopular videogame opinion.
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Aug 10, 2018 12:29
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I don't know what you guys are talking about with the bioware romances being cringey https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxcd9lXqCnw&t=67s
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Aug 10, 2018 12:34
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QuarkJets posted:Nah you still get the barbie doll loving, it's just blurry and in the background behind the card reveal. Meanwhile you can take solace in the fact that you're collecting binders full of women at least in the witcher 1 romance success mostly depends on geralt bringing the right wine, flowers or jewelry, just like in real life
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Aug 10, 2018 13:38
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the only kinda decent game romance is in baldur's gate 2, and that's only because it's more story book/bad fantasy novel romance rather than weird pandering gamer romance, where the ultimate goal is to bang and get some 'chievos
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Aug 10, 2018 13:57
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Verisimilidude posted:the only kinda decent game romance is in baldur's gate 2, and that's only because it's more story book/bad fantasy novel romance rather than weird pandering gamer romance, where the ultimate goal is to bang and get some 'chievos Because I'm sure the achievements were what people hoped for from Bioware romances
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Aug 10, 2018 14:06
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A. Beaverhausen posted:Because I'm sure the achievements were what people hoped for from Bioware romances Verisimilidude posted:where the ultimate goal is to bang and get some 'chievos I know. I wrote that too!!
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Aug 10, 2018 14:10
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Romance has no place in video game unless it involves Sonic the Hedgehog.
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Aug 10, 2018 14:51
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what about romance in the literary sense
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Aug 10, 2018 14:51
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a hole-y ghost posted:what about romance in the literary sense Acceptable, but if it isn't a poorly drawn blue shlong penetrating a two tailed fox, it is only barely acceptable.
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Aug 10, 2018 14:55
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Call me a square, but the Bioware romances always weirded me out because you're essentially playing your party members' boss, so there's that power imbalance. Unprofessional, imo.
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Aug 10, 2018 15:41
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Mordja posted:Call me a square, but the Bioware romances always weirded me out because you're essentially playing your party members' boss, so there's that power imbalance. Unprofessional, imo. They always weirded me out because it makes out like for any other person, there's a correct line you can take and they'll gently caress you. All feels very incelly to me.
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Aug 10, 2018 15:59
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ah perfect for the incelly belly diet
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!Klams posted:They always weirded me out because it makes out like for any other person, there's a correct line you can take and they'll gently caress you. All feels very incelly to me. When you think about it a date is just a more complicated dialogue tree. Use the correct lines and they'll gently caress you. Dead space dismemberment quirk should be done in more games.
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