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Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
My experience with my GCC is that he became very much a one-person bird as soon as he hit puberty. He's warmed to me a little, but I don't have the patience to deal with getting bit dozens of times to do step-up training with him.

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Noxville
Dec 7, 2003

Faerie Fortune posted:

Finally, I don't have a bird to show you yet, but we took a trip to the pet store (Pet City in Bradford, for anyone who knows it!)

As ridiculously unlikely as it is yeah, this is where I get my Senegal’s food from.

And yeah, a cockatiel is a great choice for a first bird.

Tendai
Mar 16, 2007

"When the eagles are silent, the parrots begin to jabber."

Grimey Drawer
I can speak to cockatiels! I've had both males and females at this point, in pairs and singly.

I love cockatiels. I talk big about other parrots but given the choice, I would probably take a cockatiel.

They are an amazing mix of "Hey I love you let's be bros!" and "I can just chill here and do my thing nearby" and "I need some me time now, just gonna be in my cage." I had Judah for over a decade and during that time I experienced two pretty much mental breakdowns. Failed out of college, stopped showering, got heavily addicted to percocet. Judah was the one constant in all of that. There were months where he got what I would consider minimal care - cage cleaned once a week, food/water always full and fresh, but almost no time out with me. I still cringe when I think about it even though I know what my mental state was at the time and know it wasn't an intentional thing on my part.

The beautiful thing is that he stayed friendly and loving as always. When I started figuring out how to move forward without periodic life resets, he was his charming, cheerful self the first time I took him out again after a few months. Just chirped and cuddled up against my neck and fell asleep in my hood like he had since he was a baby. They are resilient little birds, mentally-speaking. Bright enough to be charming and alien in that fascinating way parrots have, but not nearly so sensitive in that sense as a cockatoo or other larger parrot.

Of course, mileage will vary depending on the specific bird - I can only speak for the ones I've had! I love cockatiels and they are the best little cinnamon rolls who are too good for this world :3:

uranium grass
Jan 15, 2005

LITERALLY A BIRD posted:

but soaks up love like a tiny beaky sponge and dumps it right back onto you.

mochi soaks up love for sure but I'm not sure if that's what he keeps dumping on me

Tendai
Mar 16, 2007

"When the eagles are silent, the parrots begin to jabber."

Grimey Drawer

subpar anachronism posted:

mochi soaks up love for sure but I'm not sure if that's what he keeps dumping on me
Poop is his love language :colbert:

Shark Sandwich
Sep 6, 2010

by R. Guyovich

Tendai posted:

I can speak to cockatiels! I've had both males and females at this point, in pairs and singly.

I love cockatiels. I talk big about other parrots but given the choice, I would probably take a cockatiel.

They are an amazing mix of "Hey I love you let's be bros!" and "I can just chill here and do my thing nearby" and "I need some me time now, just gonna be in my cage." I had Judah for over a decade and during that time I experienced two pretty much mental breakdowns. Failed out of college, stopped showering, got heavily addicted to percocet. Judah was the one constant in all of that. There were months where he got what I would consider minimal care - cage cleaned once a week, food/water always full and fresh, but almost no time out with me. I still cringe when I think about it even though I know what my mental state was at the time and know it wasn't an intentional thing on my part.

The beautiful thing is that he stayed friendly and loving as always. When I started figuring out how to move forward without periodic life resets, he was his charming, cheerful self the first time I took him out again after a few months. Just chirped and cuddled up against my neck and fell asleep in my hood like he had since he was a baby. They are resilient little birds, mentally-speaking. Bright enough to be charming and alien in that fascinating way parrots have, but not nearly so sensitive in that sense as a cockatoo or other larger parrot.

Of course, mileage will vary depending on the specific bird - I can only speak for the ones I've had! I love cockatiels and they are the best little cinnamon rolls who are too good for this world :3:

As a depressive I can say that this is a big reason I love cockatiels. The upside of their derpiness and ubiquity in the wilds of Australia is that they're extremely hardy and resilient little derps. The bigger thing is that like Tendai said about Judah (pbuh) cockatiels are incredibly attuned to emotional states and they are pretty easy in terms of husbandry requirements. On top of that unlike a lot of parrot species they're just naturally in a good mood most of the time. They're, pun intended, unflappable.

Shirec
Jul 29, 2009

How to cock it up, Fig. I

Either bird will be amazing and I'm sure will be a major boon to your mental health. I will say personally as a person that struggles with depression and went through an insanely tough year, my conures were lifesaving. They can be demanding little turds, but they are going to be on you reminding you how much they love and care for you.

Speaking of little turds, here are mine. I recently moved to a much smaller place in Chicago, but first priority was setting up the cage. So now my biggest cage is sitting center piece style in my living area until I can get more stuff unpacked.





Enigma
Jun 10, 2003
Raetus Deus Est.

Everyone, meet Peck-a-cles (this is what happens when a 3-year-old helps name something)



I found it sitting in my driveway today. It's totally domesticated, clearly used to people. It wouldn't even move so my wife could park her car. It has a band on its leg indicating it's registered with the Int'l Federation of Homing Pigeons or somesuch thing and may have been banded at a pet store in PA, which is a long way from here (FL). I put in a few calls to see if anyone is looking for an albino pigeon.

Meanwhile, until I can get my extra bird cage set up, he's currently having his way with my kitchen.



Edit: So, definitely has some sort of bird flea or something. Bunch of tiny, skinny, brown bugs. A bath managed to get them all off so far as I can see. He's in quarantine to keep separation from our birds, and everything is getting disinfected.

Enigma fucked around with this message at 01:51 on Aug 10, 2018

Enigma
Jun 10, 2003
Raetus Deus Est.

Shark Sandwich posted:

On top of that unlike a lot of parrot species they're just naturally in a good mood most of the time. They're, pun intended, unflappable.

Ha, my female cockatiel was the cuddliest thing, then puberty hit like a brick, is my only guess. She's derpy and likes pets from me, but she is a bitch on wings to anyone and everything else. Fortunately, she never learned to bite, so she just does an angry ineffective pecking thing at people.

little_firebird
Sep 1, 2008

Why don't you
just eat your
belly button and die?!

Enigma posted:

Everyone, meet Peck-a-cles (this is what happens when a 3-year-old helps name something)



I found it sitting in my driveway today. It's totally domesticated, clearly used to people. It wouldn't even move so my wife could park her car. It has a band on its leg indicating it's registered with the Int'l Federation of Homing Pigeons or somesuch thing and may have been banded at a pet store in PA, which is a long way from here (FL). I put in a few calls to see if anyone is looking for an albino pigeon.

Meanwhile, until I can get my extra bird cage set up, he's currently having his way with my kitchen.



Edit: So, definitely has some sort of bird flea or something. Bunch of tiny, skinny, brown bugs. A bath managed to get them all off so far as I can see. He's in quarantine to keep separation from our birds, and everything is getting disinfected.

What a handsome bird! :allears: If you have dried peas or lentils, those pack a bit more punch as far as energy goes for pigeons, and straight seed is typically better for them as well. Unlike parrots, they actually eat the seed whole (they are still really messy eaters though!)

Those are probably mites crawling around on them! Thankfully, making a dip is fairly easy, but I would recommend having your new friend checked out at a vet before attempting home mite treatments.


Also, they aren't necessarily albino, but you can def describe as white homing pigeon with band #: X as far as trying to locate their original owners.

LITERALLY A BIRD
Sep 27, 2008

I knew you were trouble
when you flew in

Shirec posted:

Either bird will be amazing and I'm sure will be a major boon to your mental health. I will say personally as a person that struggles with depression and went through an insanely tough year, my conures were lifesaving. They can be demanding little turds, but they are going to be on you reminding you how much they love and care for you.

Speaking of little turds, here are mine. I recently moved to a much smaller place in Chicago, but first priority was setting up the cage. So now my biggest cage is sitting center piece style in my living area until I can get more stuff unpacked.






Hahaha I love this middle pic! You can tell Kiwi is still keeping half an eye on you but Sammy is all PEANUT BUTTER TIME IS GO


Enigma posted:

Everyone, meet Peck-a-cles (this is what happens when a 3-year-old helps name something)



I found it sitting in my driveway today. It's totally domesticated, clearly used to people. It wouldn't even move so my wife could park her car. It has a band on its leg indicating it's registered with the Int'l Federation of Homing Pigeons or somesuch thing and may have been banded at a pet store in PA, which is a long way from here (FL). I put in a few calls to see if anyone is looking for an albino pigeon.

Meanwhile, until I can get my extra bird cage set up, he's currently having his way with my kitchen.



Edit: So, definitely has some sort of bird flea or something. Bunch of tiny, skinny, brown bugs. A bath managed to get them all off so far as I can see. He's in quarantine to keep separation from our birds, and everything is getting disinfected.
A+ name, A+ birb

LITERALLY A BIRD
Sep 27, 2008

I knew you were trouble
when you flew in

Unrelated Charlie just landed on the same shoulder where Ama was sitting and I have never seen two more startled birds in my life. Like, I totally get why Ama was surprised, but Charlemagne he was sitting right there how did you not see him

Tendai
Mar 16, 2007

"When the eagles are silent, the parrots begin to jabber."

Grimey Drawer
Wait his full name is Charlemagne

That's amazing

:allears:

LITERALLY A BIRD
Sep 27, 2008

I knew you were trouble
when you flew in

It is now that I'm his caretaker (with apologies to Shark) because I discovered very quickly I can't inject the full amount of disapproval that's sometimes necessary into fewer than three syllables

LITERALLY A BIRD fucked around with this message at 06:38 on Aug 10, 2018

Captain Log
Oct 2, 2006

Now I am become Borb,
the Destroyer of Seeb

Faerie Fortune posted:

Hi birb thread! I've been lurking for just over a year now, enjoying all your cute bird pictures and reading all the advice here to see if I'm ready to have a bird and I think I am!

Some background: I have terrible PTSD from witnessing a murder. For now I live with my parents because I can't stand to be alone but they won't let me have pets. However, very soon I'm moving in with my girlfriend of eight years. We always knew we wanted a pet but she's allergic to cats and I'm allergic to dogs. It took us a lot longer than it should have to figure out the solution: Birb!

A few questions though: my dream birb is a galah but I know that they need a lot of care and attention and I'm too nervous about being a bird owner right now to be able to guarentee that for an animal. So I'm going to start with something a little less high maintenance -- a cockatiel!

Any pet I get would just by virtue of my situation, would end up being an emotional support animal. My girlfriend and I agreed to get a pet because I don't work but can't stand to be in the house alone while she's working, so we figured a bird would be perfect as an animal I can socialise with on an equal level. How good a choice would a cockatiel be for this kind of situation? I'm willing to consider another bird if there's one that's more suited to my situation but basically I need a companion that thrives with lots of social interaction and play, and that can be cuddly and affectionate when I need to calm down.

They'd probably spend most, if not all of the day with us, maybe only using a cage to sleep in but I want as little cage time as possible really! Anything I should be super aware of going cageless that I might have looked over in my research? Are cockatiels receptive to harness training?

Secondly! How long should I wait after moving in to get a bird? I figured all the noise of moving in and all the stress, plus paint fumes and power tools from putting together ikea furniture would not be a good environment for a bird trying to get used to a new home. I don't want to stress the poor thing out :(

Finally, I don't have a bird to show you yet, but we took a trip to the pet store (Pet City in Bradford, for anyone who knows it!) and had a look at some friends to see if a bird really was the right decision for us so I took some pictures for the thread!


First of all, this sweet baby cockatiel who I fell absolutely in love with and cemented my desire to own a potato of my own - there's nothing wrong with its face, I think there used to be a sticker on the glass




Some baby green cheek conures!



....and a whole lot of budgies




Hey, fellow PTSD Person. I have kept cockatiels most of my life and they see me through thick and thin. I used to be a bad alcoholic, and then had a ton of medical poo poo happen, got severe aphasia (which this thread got to see firsthand. It's still embarrasing), and tons of other things, and my cockatiels didn't decide to hate me. They love human contact, but can handle being alone better than some parrots.

If you need an ear to talk about PTSD or birbs, toss a PM over. I honestly feel like parrots are THE animal for people suffering from things like that.

LITERALLY A BIRD
Sep 27, 2008

I knew you were trouble
when you flew in

Captain Log posted:

Hey, fellow PTSD Person. I have kept cockatiels most of my life and they see me through thick and thin. I used to be a bad alcoholic, and then had a ton of medical poo poo happen, got severe aphasia (which this thread got to see firsthand. It's still embarrasing), and tons of other things, and my cockatiels didn't decide to hate me. They love human contact, but can handle being alone better than some parrots.

If you need an ear to talk about PTSD or birbs, toss a PM over. I honestly feel like parrots are THE animal for people suffering from things like that.

obligatory article post, don't click unless you wanna lie about chopping onions.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/31/magazine/what-does-a-parrot-know-about-ptsd.html?_r=0

Jose Oquendo
Jun 20, 2004

Star Trek: The Motion Picture is a boring movie
You'll have to turn up the volume but this is my bird saying goodbye like he does every morning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQF_yqIzwmM

Enigma
Jun 10, 2003
Raetus Deus Est.

Updated on Peck-a-cles:

Tracked the band to an owner in a city two hours away. The phone number is disconnected, and a reverse Google suggest the owner is (was?) 90 years old. Can't find an address or any other info, so that's a dead end.

Talking it over with the wife about whether we want to find somewhere that will take it in or if this means we now have a pet pigeon. I have no idea how they are as indoor pets or whether sharing a giant cage with a cockatiel and conure would be feasible (after quarantine and vet checkup of course).

Enigma fucked around with this message at 15:22 on Aug 10, 2018

RoboRodent
Sep 19, 2012

Re: cockatiels and emotional support

One of my birds, Ozzy, is a rescue. I've had him since January, and what I know of the situation he came from is that there were five tiels housed together with some severe aggression between them. They ended up going to four different homes because of that. He had such atrophied flight muscles that he could only drop like a stone, and his wings were severely clipped (though that might have been the rescue, because birds that have no idea how to fly probably don't need full flight feathers). He's nervous around people, he's nervous around other birds, he's very defensive of his personal space and goes days refusing to come out of the cage, because the cage is safe. He's my trauma brain baby.

I have a diagnosis of generalised anxiety disorder with depressive episodes. I'm doing a lot better these days than I used to be, but there are bad days. A few weeks ago I had a horrendously bad stretch and was just paralysed with anxiety. I called in sick to work, something I very rarely do, then huddled up in front of the TV to play video games for a while, anything to just shut my brain off for a bit.

Sera, my other bird, had been giving me the usual attention all day, wanting lots of snuggles and kisses. Ozzy climbed to the top of his cage, though, and with that height managed a flight/fall with style across the room. He landed (clumsily) on my knee. I cooed encouragingly at him, because that's an impressive flight for him, and also he had come to visit me on purpose. He climbed up to my shoulder, nibbled very gently on my earlobe for a bit, and then removed himself to sit nearby, because that was all the close contact he wanted for basically the whole day but he still wanted to be near me. Coincidence that it was on a day where I was not doing well? Maybe. I don't think so. They're creatures of intense emotion. They can see it in you.

Forsythia
Jan 28, 2007

You want bad advice?

Anything is okay if you don't get caught!

... I hope this helps!
Cockatiels are both sensitive and oblivious. It seems like they have the best of both worlds for the average bird owner.

In other cockatoo news, fingats are tasty!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJfexVlnwHs&t=156s

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

Anybody lose their glasses?

Enigma posted:

Updated on Peck-a-cles:

Tracked the band to an owner in a city two hours away. The phone number is disconnected, and a reverse Google suggest the owner is (was?) 90 years old. Can't find an address or any other info, so that's a dead end.

Given the age of that lookup the owner may be too, if it's correct. :(

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

Kitfox88 posted:

Given the age of that lookup the owner may be too, if it's correct. :(

I'm guessing the owner knew he/she was dying and couldn't find anyone to take the bird so they let it loose into the wild to be free.

Shirec
Jul 29, 2009

How to cock it up, Fig. I

Cythereal posted:

I'm guessing the owner knew he/she was dying and couldn't find anyone to take the bird so they let it loose into the wild to be free.

I plan on having birds for the rest of my life, as long as it’s feasible, and I 100% will have plans for my birds to be moved into sanctuaries I love/approve of (pre-paid or wills or arranged legal agreements) on my death/terminal illness. No way I’ll let anything happen to my bird loves like what happened to Gobbles (even if that has a happy end). It makes me a little sick to think my family/friends could potentially abandon a pet as smart and loving as my birds have been to me.

Enigma
Jun 10, 2003
Raetus Deus Est.

That's what I was thinking too, or his heirs said "wtf are we going to do with Dad's crazy pigeon collection" and set them loose.

We are leaning toward keeping him and have a vet visit scheduled. Currently brainstorming cages with the hopes he can share a new, large enclosure with a cockatiel and conure.

One thing is for sure, though, this bird is chill as gently caress. It's like having a feathery potato on quaaludes.

Captain Log
Oct 2, 2006

Now I am become Borb,
the Destroyer of Seeb

Enigma posted:

That's what I was thinking too, or his heirs said "wtf are we going to do with Dad's crazy pigeon collection" and set them loose.

We are leaning toward keeping him and have a vet visit scheduled. Currently brainstorming cages with the hopes he can share a new, large enclosure with a cockatiel and conure.

One thing is for sure, though, this bird is chill as gently caress. It's like having a feathery potato on quaaludes.

A chill bird is a happy bird. I'm hoping we have a new thread pigeon!

Whatever happened to the person with the "literal anime" pigeon?

Tendai
Mar 16, 2007

"When the eagles are silent, the parrots begin to jabber."

Grimey Drawer

Enigma posted:

That's what I was thinking too, or his heirs said "wtf are we going to do with Dad's crazy pigeon collection" and set them loose.

We are leaning toward keeping him and have a vet visit scheduled. Currently brainstorming cages with the hopes he can share a new, large enclosure with a cockatiel and conure.

One thing is for sure, though, this bird is chill as gently caress. It's like having a feathery potato on quaaludes.

Congratulations on your new pigeotato :3:

little_firebird
Sep 1, 2008

Why don't you
just eat your
belly button and die?!

Captain Log posted:

A chill bird is a happy bird. I'm hoping we have a new thread pigeon!

Whatever happened to the person with the "literal anime" pigeon?

Hello, it's me, i have the literal anime pigeon. And two other pigeons. And two ringneck doves that are somehow louder than the pigeons despite being smaller.

RE: Pidge sharing cage with parrots-- Do not. Pigeons do not have the ability to protect themselves from parrot beaks and even in a large cage I would be very hesitant to house them together even if they all seem happy together. For pigeons, a med-large dog kennel will work when they have to be caged. Flat perches are better for their feet.

Captain Log
Oct 2, 2006

Now I am become Borb,
the Destroyer of Seeb

little_firebird posted:

Hello, it's me, i have the literal anime pigeon. And two other pigeons. And two ringneck doves that are somehow louder than the pigeons despite being smaller.

RE: Pidge sharing cage with parrots-- Do not. Pigeons do not have the ability to protect themselves from parrot beaks and even in a large cage I would be very hesitant to house them together even if they all seem happy together. For pigeons, a med-large dog kennel will work when they have to be caged. Flat perches are better for their feet.

You must post pictures. You must!

Enigma
Jun 10, 2003
Raetus Deus Est.

Appreciate the advice. For some reason dog cages are way more affordable than bird, so probably going that route.

So...do pigeons do anything or have personality? Could be because it’s a strange environment, or maybe I’m just too use to conures/tiels, but so far this guy is basically a making GBS threads houseplant.

little_firebird
Sep 1, 2008

Why don't you
just eat your
belly button and die?!

Enigma posted:

Appreciate the advice. For some reason dog cages are way more affordable than bird, so probably going that route.

Do...do pigeons do anything or have personality? Could be because it’s a strange environment, or maybe I’m just too use to conures/tiels, but so far this guy is basically a making GBS threads houseplant.

With pigeons, you want a cage that is typically longer than it is tall. I'll get a picture of my adopted rescue setup who is actually in a large rat cage, but it's perfect for her during the day. it's probably three feet long and more than enough room to spread her wings if she wants to!

And yes! Pigeons do have very individual personalities! Just consider that your new friend is just that, new, and still getting used to their surroundings. Find treats they like, train them, teach them tricks! There's no risk of a bloody bite with pigeons, but letting them get used to you is also very important just like with any other new birds.

Enigma
Jun 10, 2003
Raetus Deus Est.

little_firebird posted:

With pigeons, you want a cage that is typically longer than it is tall. I'll get a picture of my adopted rescue setup who is actually in a large rat cage, but it's perfect for her during the day. it's probably three feet long and more than enough room to spread her wings if she wants to!

And yes! Pigeons do have very individual personalities! Just consider that your new friend is just that, new, and still getting used to their surroundings. Find treats they like, train them, teach them tricks! There's no risk of a bloody bite with pigeons, but letting them get used to you is also very important just like with any other new birds.

Pictures would be awesome, thanks! I know practically nothing about keeping pigeons and have much to learn.

Faerie Fortune
Nov 14, 2004

Thanks for all your advice, guys! I passed it on to my girlfriend and we both agree that a conure might be a better choice for my needs in particular, but she really does love the cockatiels so there's a high chance we might be getting both!

Enigma
Jun 10, 2003
Raetus Deus Est.

We have both, and for what it's worth I don't find having two to be much more work than one, especially if you luck out like we did and your birds get along really well. If it's your first bird, I would space them out until you have a handle on one though.



Here's our GCC, Bruce, and tiel, Toots (wasn't I who named her). Bruce needs some grooming time today. Bruce got his name from the fact that he didn't know how to perch when we first got him and would hang upside down like a bat, so we taught him to flip upside down when we said "Batman" in exchange for slivered almonds.

Biggest differences are space and cleanup, since it may mean having room for and cleaning two cages or at the least one big one.

Tendai
Mar 16, 2007

"When the eagles are silent, the parrots begin to jabber."

Grimey Drawer
A conure named Bruce is just so right somehow :3:

Shark Sandwich
Sep 6, 2010

by R. Guyovich
Conures and cockatiels make such an amusing combo. Crazy ball of energy partnered with derpy ball of fluff

Tendai
Mar 16, 2007

"When the eagles are silent, the parrots begin to jabber."

Grimey Drawer

Shark Sandwich posted:

Conures and cockatiels make such an amusing combo. Crazy ball of energy partnered with derpy ball of fluff
They do seem to have kind of a delightful dynamic.

Ohtori and Steve are my otp.

PS Momentarily back to galah chat - this is one of my favorite internet birds and I don't know if I can link facebook videos here embed-style so go here and watch them :3: Peachu!

Pretty sure they just naturally go "WHEEEEE!" now???

https://www.facebook.com/peachesthegalah/videos/2030554737267396/

Tendai fucked around with this message at 16:43 on Aug 11, 2018

Agent355
Jul 26, 2011


The level of foof that bird goes into a the end of that video is delightful.

uranium grass
Jan 15, 2005

Is there any good way to socialize our birds (a budgie and a GCC) other than just letting them look at each other through the cage bars? I want to be cautious since Mochi is so much bigger and Bradbury is skittish.

little_firebird
Sep 1, 2008

Why don't you
just eat your
belly button and die?!

Captain Log posted:

You must post pictures. You must!

Hyde says hi.



Sootsprite bite.



Soot's cage for reference:



and a bonus alphonse playing with a jingle bell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzIpmQ8-VXs

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Agent355
Jul 26, 2011


Birds who are angry and hate jingly bells and birds who are playing with jingly bells is always really difficult to tell apart :allears:

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