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Killing Loaf posted:Also consider learning how to do a more dynamic press variation, like what Starting Strength has been teaching for the past few years (Rippetoe calls it the "Press 2.0"). Use that as your main "pounds on the bar" press and save strict presses for volume. SS gets a lot of poo poo here but they focus more on overhead press than anyone else I've seen, to the point of starting their own variation on the sport of Powerlifting that replaces the Bench Press with Overhead Press ("Strengthlifting"). This is good. Involves the core and glutes
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dads friend steve posted:Does it? I got the impression a lot of posters itt have just outgrown it is all? After all, it is called starting strength Alfalfa in particular has Opinions about Starting Strength. He hasn't posted here in a while though. Drunk Driver Dad posted:All that said, shoulders recover easy and I'm definitely going to hammer those too, so it's probably a "why not both?" situation, I was just trying to figure out how I want to set my T2 exercises up this next go around. You mention strict press being limiting.....push press is definitely an option when it comes to selecting a T2 for OHP. What if I did Close grip as T2 for bench, and Push press as T2 for OHP? Guyver posted:If you watch you slow down at around the forehead then speed up again when your triceps take over. Push press cuts out the bottom and middle of the lift so probably not the best choice. Push Press is more of an assistance exercise for the Jerk than the Press. Here's an article by Greg Everett (Olympic Weightlifting coach) talking about how the Press and Jerk are significantly different enough from each other that the Press isn't really useful as an assistance exercise for the Jerk, but the Push Press is. Like Guyver said, Push Press (and the Jerk) skip most of the actual pressing movement by powering through the bottom with the legs and really only work the lockout which isn't usually a sticking point for the Press. To compare to the Bench Press, think of Dynamic Press as your competition Bench , Strict Press as Pause Bench, and Pin Press as Pin Bench. Since you're slowing down around forehead level, I'd recommend your T2 Press be a Pin Press from that height. You can keep Strict Press as your T1 since you're already very strong in that variation but definitely look into Dynamic Pressing.
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I could do pin press but it would have to be seated. No rack other than that one but I could wrangle up a seat that would have the bar racked around my forehead or so. And I'm not sure pin press would even work on that kind of rack without bumping into other pins. e: There's an honest to god powerlifting gym about 15 minutes away from my work I'm going to start going to in the next few months, they have literally everything there. I could save pin presses for then at the very least. edit: someone on r/AtS mentioned my bar path was pretty bad and looking back at it it was. It was way out in front of me on the way up, but came down about right because I actually had to move my face out of the way, so I may actually mess with that tomorrow and possibly reattempt if it's feeling good. Drunk Driver Dad fucked around with this message at 09:24 on Aug 10, 2018 |
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Just pulled an all-nighter for work, wasn't about to go lift afterwards, I was too loopy to even talk straight Hoping it didn't gently caress my routine too much This is what it's come to, I can't take a day off even to sleep
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did a max day today after finishing up Sheiko 32. Set a new squat PR at 420, sucked at the bench @ 275, set a new deadlift PR at 480. Two easy weeks and then I'm gonna start pushing hard for 300+ bench and 500 dead
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Bought a tiny little compression top and getting it on is an adventure and a half.
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sassassin posted:Bought a tiny little compression top and getting it on is an adventure and a half. 
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Drunk Driver Dad posted:I could do pin press but it would have to be seated. No rack other than that one but I could wrangle up a seat that would have the bar racked around my forehead or so. And I'm not sure pin press would even work on that kind of rack without bumping into other pins. e: There's an honest to god powerlifting gym about 15 minutes away from my work I'm going to start going to in the next few months, they have literally everything there. I could save pin presses for then at the very least. How hard are you squeezing your rear end?
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Fairly hard, but you know how max effort lifts are, it's hard to make sure you are doing every cue perfectly. Either way, not going to bother reattempting, I'll just work on building up my base as I go into my next cycle and work on bar path, cues, and overall form and I'm sure I'll smash it next time a max rolls around. All that said, if I'm feeling good tomorrow I might attempt 405 on deadlift. I got 325x7 last time which puts it pretty close via max calculator, and most of the times my actual deadlift max is higher than those things predict. e: I can't believe they probated my man zzulu. Drunk Driver Dad fucked around with this message at 08:52 on Aug 11, 2018 |
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Drunk Driver Dad posted:All that said, if I'm feeling good tomorrow I might attempt 405 on deadlift. I got 325x7 last time which puts it pretty close via max calculator, and most of the times my actual deadlift max is higher than those things predict. Go for it bro Last time I PR’d on my deadlift my abs hurt for three days. STAY TIGHT
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First time deadlifting since January. Lower back status: arching its eyebrows at me but not actively trying to murder me with an icepick Also: hanging leg raises. Aaaa I hate them
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Not below parallel, reps don't count
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Dude walking by with his beers all like noooope, got my beers
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So how much strain is she putting on her hips and how young will she be when she needs a hip replacement. That jerky part of the motion just looks so terrible/painful.
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Anyone have belt recommendations? The communal belts at my gym suck and are falling apart. Don't know if I should go on the budget end or splurge and risk looking like a poser.
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Aug 12, 2018 02:23
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Just drop the $120ish on a Titan or Pioneer. No one is going to care what belt your wearing.
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nooneofconsequence posted:Anyone have belt recommendations? The communal belts at my gym suck and are falling apart. Don't know if I should go on the budget end or splurge and risk looking like a poser. I forget how much but I think my Inzer lever belt was like 80 or 90 bucks and I really like it. I feel really cool unsnapping the lever after I hit a deadlift.
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Drunk Driver Dad posted:I forget how much but I think my Inzer lever belt was like 80 or 90 bucks and I really like it. I feel really cool unsnapping the lever after I hit a deadlift. Did you go with 10 or 13 mm?
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nooneofconsequence posted:Did you go with 10 or 13 mm? Not DDD but I'll respond anyways. I have a 10mm Inzer prong belt and I have no complaints with it.
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nooneofconsequence posted:Did you go with 10 or 13 mm? 13mm, I like it.
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Drunk Driver Dad posted:13mm, I like it. The 10mm seem to get lost more too!
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Also I'm starting my new Average To Savage cycle. Its basically one of the programs that just tells you what to do for T1 and T2 and leaves the rest up to you. I want to bulk and hit enough volume to grow a bit, but not enough to murder me, so I'm going to list my 2 upper days(I still do lower of course but that's its own separate thing that's going well, so I'm not listing it here). Tell me what you guys think. Bench Day Bench Press AtS Sets 3 sets, reps vary depending on block but it's basic periodization Cable Rows Superset with it T2 Seated Barbell OHP, 3 sets again reps vary. super set with Pull ups T3 Incline Dumbell Bench 3 sets of 8-12 Face Pull Lateral Raise all superset together Cable Hammer Curl 3 of 8-14 Tricep Pushdown 3 of 8-14 Cable Fly 3 of 8-12 all superset OHP Day Standing Barbell OHP 3 sets superset with Pull ups T2 Close Grip Bench 3 sets superset with cable rows T3 One Arm Dumbell Z Press 3 of 8-14 Cable Lat Pullover(basically a straight arm lat pulldown thing) 3 sets of 8-14 Cable Fly 3 of 8-12 all superset Lateral Raise 3 of 10-16 OH Tricep Extensions 3 of 8-14 EZ Bar Curl 3 of 8-14 Face Pull 3 of 10-14 I sometimes might throw some light arm/chest and delt isolation in on my deadlift day if I want to hit that stuff a 3rd time in a week, so maybe call it 2 or 3 more sets for those body parts. I'll mainly focus on progressing the T1 and T2 per the program but will mostly focus on the pump for the other stuff, maybe trying to slowly beat out the notebook over time. Does this look like a good amount of volume for upper body? I do abs on lower days btw. edit: One thing I'm still thinking of tweaking is adding in some sort of heavy barbell row. Maybe Pendlays super set with my main bench sets? Or even just throw the pendlays in on deadlift day. Drunk Driver Dad fucked around with this message at 03:55 on Aug 13, 2018 |
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dads friend steve posted:Does it? I got the impression a lot of posters itt have just outgrown it is all? After all, it is called starting strength mark rippetoe teaches a lot of bad cues and technique when it comes to the lifts, with possibly the exception of the press because most people don't care about the press that much apart from strongmen and maybe olympic weightlifters also he is a MAGA chud rear end in a top hat so gently caress him
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Belts are for weaklings I saw a big dude come in and put on belt, chalk and straps and proceed to lift less than me. Shameful display
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I Like Hack Squats (With a bar)
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MikeCrotch posted:mark rippetoe teaches a lot of bad cues and technique when it comes to the lifts, with possibly the exception of the press because most people don't care about the press that much apart from strongmen and maybe olympic weightlifters They’re fine as general pointers. Obviously past a certain....starting...point most lifters will require individualized coaching, at least beyond “sit back.” But yeah he’s reactionist scum and will get the wall.
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Collapsing Farts posted:Belts are for weaklings I'm gonna get "weakling" embroidered on my new belt.
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Lol@ people taking precautions against injury amirite no pain no gain
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Collapsing Farts posted:Belts are for weaklings Spoilers, he was just trying to hold his gut in
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FizFashizzle posted:They’re fine as general pointers. Obviously past a certain....starting...point most lifters will require individualized coaching, at least beyond “sit back.” The way he teaches the lifts are now known to be inefficient though. Like emphasising tucking on bench press and HIP DRAHV on squat Like why learn the inefficient way first when you could just learn the better way to begin with
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MikeCrotch posted:The way he teaches the lifts are now known to be inefficient though. Like emphasising tucking on bench press and HIP DRAHV on squat Perhaps. It’s been a while since I read it. When they write the book about Instagram there better be a whole chapter about how good it was for weightlifting.
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MikeCrotch posted:The way he teaches the lifts are now known to be inefficient though. Like emphasising tucking on bench press and HIP DRAHV on squat I'm out of the loop, what're the better ways?
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Jihad Me At Hello posted:I'm out of the loop, what're the better ways? Anything by Greg Nuckols.
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This is on my clipboard so here’s the new official waifu of this thread. https://www.instagram.com/p/BmRJJXaAUkt/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=gnzsqemo0wk9
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Anti-Hero posted:Anything by Greg Nuckols. Or juggernaut training systems A lot of the problem with starting strength is that raw powerlifting wasn't really a thing so all the advice mostly makes sense for multiply geared lifters We know better now
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