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Ariong
Jun 25, 2012

Get bashed, platonist!

IShallRiseAgain posted:

One thing about why Doomguy should stay Doomguy. He is basically one of the handful of Jewish characters in videogames. If they are made into generic murder person, that would no longer be the case unless they actually integrate it into the story, which I don't see happening.

Uh, are you talking about BJ Blazkowicz? I’ve never heard of Doomguy’s religion being mentioned.

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Black August
Sep 28, 2003



PubicMice posted:

Does anyone else find it kinda oddly lovable that BioEnchanted just doesn't bother with the thread derails? Here everybody is talking about gender and ragging on each other and he just chimes in every so often to tell us how good the Ratatouille game was.

Yeah he’s smart enough to actually contribute to threads and isn’t a loud argumentive rear end in a top hat

IShallRiseAgain
Sep 12, 2008

Well ain't that precious?

Ariong posted:

Uh, are you talking about BJ Blazkowicz? I’ve never heard of Doomguy’s religion being mentioned.

Well, he is BJ Blazkowicz's grandson, so there is a good chance he is Jewish. Also, like I said there are basically no other Jewish characters in videogames, so I choose to believe he is a Jew.

Malleum
Aug 16, 2014

Am I the one at fault? What about me is wrong?
Buglord

IShallRiseAgain posted:

Well, he is BJ Blazkowicz's grandson, so there is a good chance he is Jewish. Also, like I said there are basically no other Jewish characters in videogames, so I choose to believe he is a Jew.
Anya Oliwa isn't jewish in TNO, and either way in the official novelizations doomguy is stated to be catholic :goonsay:

Ariong
Jun 25, 2012

Get bashed, platonist!

IShallRiseAgain posted:

Well, he is BJ Blazkowicz's grandson, so there is a good chance he is Jewish. Also, like I said there are basically no other Jewish characters in videogames, so I choose to believe he is a Jew.

Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Man, the demons in hell must really look forward to saturdays.

Wait, is ripping demons in half with a chainsaw prohibited on the shabbat? It seems like שוחט but maybe demons don’t count.

synthetik
Feb 28, 2007

I forgive you, Will. Will you forgive me?

Len posted:

Is there a game that goes full on cheesecake with the dudes? Basically I want the male equivalent of chainmail bikinis fuckin everywhere.

Edit: and none of that manly style cheesecake like Conan or the humans in Predator. Full on female gaze.

https://youtu.be/-sShwNYZkpc

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
Ratatouille has an amazing ending. Instead of Gusteau's being shut down due to vermin in the kitchen like in the movie, it's because Skinner goes on a mad chase after Remy through the entire dining room that results in the front of house literally collapsing on top of Skinner. Then Linguini is just like "Welp, Gusteau's is hosed..." and they open their own restaurant.

And it's nice to be appreciated :3:

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire

Ariong posted:

Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Man, the demons in hell must really look forward to saturdays.

Wait, is ripping demons in half with a chainsaw prohibited on the shabbat? It seems like שוחט but maybe demons don’t count.

All Shabbat rules can be ignored if it's to save a life.

Saving the entire loving earth qualifies :black101:

Samuringa
Mar 27, 2017

Best advice I was ever given?

"Ticker, you'll be a lot happier once you stop caring about the opinions of a culture that is beneath you."

I learned my worth, learned the places and people that matter.

Opened my eyes.

Thank you

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

Ariong posted:

Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Man, the demons in hell must really look forward to saturdays.

Wait, is ripping demons in half with a chainsaw prohibited on the shabbat? It seems like שוחט but maybe demons don’t count.

I think its ok, but you have to leave the chainsaw running overnight.

Accordion Man
Nov 7, 2012


Buglord

IShallRiseAgain posted:

Well, he is BJ Blazkowicz's grandson, so there is a good chance he is Jewish. Also, like I said there are basically no other Jewish characters in videogames, so I choose to believe he is a Jew.
Commander Keen is BJ's grandson, Doomguy is like his great-great grandson.

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


Despite his lineage Doomguy is chaste and a devout Christian.

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010


Ignore my posts!
I'm aggressively wrong about everything!

Lobok posted:

Wait, when you do the gender swap in FFXV is it an all-or-nothing deal? I was talking about having a mix of boys and girls like S Club 7.

You can customize Noctis, the protagonist, but none of the rest. So at most you get one lady to three men.

Samuringa
Mar 27, 2017

Best advice I was ever given?

"Ticker, you'll be a lot happier once you stop caring about the opinions of a culture that is beneath you."

I learned my worth, learned the places and people that matter.

Opened my eyes.

Cleretic posted:

You can customize Noctis, the protagonist, but none of the rest. So at most you get one lady to three men.

Are we still talking about the game or the porn parody

Samovar
Jun 4, 2011

I'm 😤 not a 🦸🏻‍♂️hero...🧜🏻



muscles like this! posted:

Seriously, this was a character in Elite Force 2.


Jesus.

Glagha
Oct 13, 2008

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That sure looks like an early 2000s character design. No idea if it actually is though

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



Fun Shoe

Strom Cuzewon posted:

I think its ok, but you have to leave the chainsaw running overnight.

Like, you can't start the chainsaw, but if you just happen to "find" a running chainsaw, and carry it in front of you, you can't be blamed if some demons accidentally stumble into it?



Or is it also illegal to pick up and carry a tool? In that case, would you have to strap yourself to the running chainsaw the night before?

Morpheus
Apr 18, 2008

My favourite little monsters

exquisite tea posted:

Despite his lineage Doomguy is chaste and a devout Christian.

Doomguy has no time fo something as baseless as sex when there are demons to destroy with his hands.

Also I see him as more like a force of nature rather than an actual gendered person. Might as well wonder what the gender of a tornado is. The pronouns are just a legacy holdover from the original game.

Zanzibar Ham
Mar 17, 2009

You giving me the cold shoulder? How cruel.


Grimey Drawer

Phy posted:

Like, you can't start the chainsaw, but if you just happen to "find" a running chainsaw, and carry it in front of you, you can't be blamed if some demons accidentally stumble into it?



Or is it also illegal to pick up and carry a tool? In that case, would you have to strap yourself to the running chainsaw the night before?

All Doomguy would have to do is put a string around the Hell Dimension so that it all counts as part of his household which means he can do whatever.

e: or he could just be a non-devout Jew

Agents are GO!
Dec 29, 2004

muscles like this! posted:

Seriously, this was a character in Elite Force 2.


Gotta let that navel breathe.

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
I love how much of the Jewish history and tradition is finding new ways to rules-lawyer God.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005



No, see, it's okay, she's a scientist.


haveblue posted:

I love how much of the Jewish history and tradition is finding new ways to rules-lawyer God.

There's a whole thing in predominantly Jewish areas of the US where they put their own lines along power lines in order to make large areas a "dwelling" in order to do stuff on the Sabbath.

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


muscles like this! posted:

No, see, it's okay, she's a scientist.


There's a whole thing in predominantly Jewish areas of the US where they put their own lines along power lines in order to make large areas a "dwelling" in order to do stuff on the Sabbath.

Manhattan island is a dwelling because of that. I read an article a couple weeks back about it

Punished Chuck
Dec 27, 2010


:siren:Alert, alert, this is not a drill:siren:: this outfit reappears in Kiwami and when he’s wearing it the dialogue boxes, health bars, and the subtitle before a fight all call him “Everyone’s Idol Goro.”

IShallRiseAgain
Sep 12, 2008

Well ain't that precious?

Chuck Buried Treasure posted:

:siren:Alert, alert, this is not a drill:siren:: this outfit reappears in Kiwami and when he’s wearing it the dialogue boxes, health bars, and the subtitle before a fight all call him “Everyone’s Idol Goro.”

I'm assuming this is only for adventure mode, unless Sega finally lets you wear costumes during the main game.

-edit oh wait, I had 0 on the mind because of the recent PC release.

IShallRiseAgain has a new favorite as of 21:17 on Aug 12, 2018

The Shame Boy
Jan 27, 2014

Dead weight, just like this post.



Sombody want to give me a rundown of new doom plot concerning doomguy because apparently I missed some actual plot in all the ripping and tearing

Leal
Oct 2, 2009

Samuringa posted:

Are we still talking about the game or the porn parody

More like my fanfiction


Len posted:

Something, something, CENSORSHIP AND VAGINA BONES



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWsyp-R61Y0

Punished Chuck
Dec 27, 2010

IShallRiseAgain posted:

I'm assuming this is only for adventure mode, unless Sega finally lets you wear costumes during the main game.

Majima is a supporting character in Kiwami, not a playable protagonist. He spends most of the game coming up with wacky schemes to surprise attack you, most of which involve elaborate setups and costumes.

Safeword
Jun 1, 2018

by R. Dieovich

HOOLY BOOLY posted:

Sombody want to give me a rundown of new doom plot concerning doomguy because apparently I missed some actual plot in all the ripping and tearing

Doom guy wants to kill demons. The two times NPCs get him to sit still long enough to listen to the rest of the plot he becomes even angrier and begins breaking things.

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

-=SEND HELP=-


Pillbug

HOOLY BOOLY posted:

Sombody want to give me a rundown of new doom plot concerning doomguy because apparently I missed some actual plot in all the ripping and tearing

He punched Hell so many times that people recognize him now. They get out of his way because, seriously, are you going to stop him from doing what he wants?

Apparently what he wants is to punch Hell more.

Agents are GO!
Dec 29, 2004

And he should be a woman.

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
Last post on Ratatouille - made a vid showing off the best part of the game, one of the dream levels. Soooo pretty.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvPSrvhPgiY

Ariong
Jun 25, 2012

Get bashed, platonist!

HOOLY BOOLY posted:

Sombody want to give me a rundown of new doom plot concerning doomguy because apparently I missed some actual plot in all the ripping and tearing

So basically there is a dimensional hole on Mars that leads to Hell. The UAC, the biggest company on Earth, has set up a base on Mars to suck out Hell energy. Then one of the scientists there, Olivia Pierce, made a deal with a demon to tear open the gateway and let the demons into our reality. That's when the Doom Slayer (you), who they retrieved from an earlier expedition into Hell, awakens. The leader of the UAC and one of the few survivors of the demonic incursion, Samuel Hayden, guides you through the facility toward Pierce so you can stop her while trying to convince you not to destroy the facility. You don't listen.

The key to the success of Doom's plot is that it is totally optional. Every cutscene except the first is skippable, and a lot of the flavor is inside of data logs that you don't need to read.

One thing I really like about the UAC setting where most of DOOM 2016 takes place is how the pretense of them using purely scientific means to extract Hell energy becomes thinner over the course of the game. As it starts, Hell energy and the extraction thereof is described using clinical sounding terms, and the assertion is that Hell Energy is a resource just like any other and they understand it completely. As you get deeper into the facility, it becomes clearer and clearer that Hell Energy really can only be extracted and manipulated by magic and dark rituals, which is what they are actually doing. It's the same calm voiced announcer the whole time, but whereas at the start he gives announcements about company picnics and overtime, by the end of the game he delivers information about volunteering for blood sacrifices and remembering to perform your sacrament.

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?
So they want to harness Hell energy (tm) for like toasters and windmills and poo poo?

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

Brazilianpeanutwar posted:

So they want to harness Hell energy (tm) for like toasters and windmills and poo poo?

Yeah, earths in an energy crisis and the only way to keep civilization going is that sweet, sweet helljuice.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Brazilianpeanutwar posted:

So they want to harness Hell energy (tm) for like toasters and windmills and poo poo?

Yep. Its 100% renewable clean energy thats always on tap*

*Its powered by hell and we have no idea how it works!

Twitch
Apr 15, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
If it makes things any better, the upcoming Wolfenstein sequel is going to have you play as two women.

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


Twitch posted:

If it makes things any better, the upcoming Wolfenstein sequel is going to have you play as two women.

Hopefully it's better than the last Wolfenstein. I don't know what it was but something about it just wasn't as good as New Order

Calaveron
Aug 7, 2006
:negative:
Also the BFG is justified as a big loving gun that releases a massive shock of said hell energy that completely obliterates anything in its radius

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Twitch
Apr 15, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Len posted:

Hopefully it's better than the last Wolfenstein. I don't know what it was but something about it just wasn't as good as New Order

I'm playing it for the first time right now (I was waiting for a decent sale on the PSN store), and I'm pretty early in the game but I'd say it's that you feel way too squishy and it relies on shitloads of enemies spawning in compared to the first game. Still into the game, but I agree.

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