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TwoPair
Mar 28, 2010

Pandamn It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta
Grimey Drawer

Aphrodite posted:

She's not gay enough for some people.

I hate hate hate when this becomes A Thing on the internet. Like it's not enough that there's a LGBT superhero show coming out or that they actually got an out actress to star but noooo people just can't be happy.

TwoPair fucked around with this message at 02:12 on Aug 8, 2018

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Rocksicles
Oct 19, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo

Bobby Digital posted:

I thought she was fine in OITNB

She played an Australian. I liked her in that.

I'm all for an Aussie getting a gig, but she's not the right person.

ApeHawk
Jun 6, 2010

All the NPCs will look up and shout, "Do this quest!"
and I'll whisper, "Sure, why not."
Apparently the big deal is that people believe she only got the job because she's the only out lesbian in Hollywood?

I dunno, Twitter outrages over everything, we'll see how she does in her cheesy show in this cheesy universe.


VV Again, I'm only reading twitter reactions, and that's the major complaint that made no sense to me.

ApeHawk fucked around with this message at 02:27 on Aug 8, 2018

Rocksicles
Oct 19, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo

ApeHawk posted:

Apparently the big deal is that people believe she only got the job because she's the only out lesbian in Hollywood?

I dunno, Twitter outrages over everything, we'll see how she does in her cheesy show in this cheesy universe.

She's not even the only aussie lesbian out there. Regardless of chops, the girl from Santa Clarita Diet is gay.

Nice to see a lesbian character get a Lesbian actress i guess, but if i can hear her do a convincing american accent i'll give her a chance... and put some guns on those arms, because she way skinny.

nooneofconsequence
Oct 30, 2012

she had tiny Italian boobs.
Well that's my story.

ApeHawk posted:

Apparently the big deal is that people believe she only got the job because she's the only out lesbian in Hollywood?

I dunno, Twitter outrages over everything, we'll see how she does in her cheesy show in this cheesy universe.


VV Again, I'm only reading twitter reactions, and that's the major complaint that made no sense to me.

I don't think they could afford Ellen Page.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
She's def got the right look. But she's not a great actress. But hey, Amell was bad and he's grown so much over 6 years so maybe she'll impress me.

Rocksicles
Oct 19, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo

Rhyno posted:

She's def got the right look. But she's not a great actress. But hey, Amell was bad and he's grown so much over 6 years so maybe she'll impress me.

I feel bad for her already, she's about the get hit with the nerd fury scattergun. She's got a look, probably the attitude, she can box.... kind of.

She did an american accent in her last movie, but that's virtually it. She's played an Aussie crim... meta. An Aussie Robot, a deaf mute girl and not a whole lot else.
I'll give her a chance, but my opinion means squat and my ratings don't count.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

TwoPair posted:

I hate hate hate when this becomes A Thing on the internet. Like it's not enough that there's a LGBT superhero show coming out or that they actually got an out actress to star but noooo people just can't be happy.

I'm pretty suspect that this kind of poo poo is actually trolls trying to poo poo over people. All my gay friends are over the moon for this.

I hope she is from Kara's earth, both because it makes more sense to the narrative and also so Alex and Kate can meet.

nooneofconsequence
Oct 30, 2012

she had tiny Italian boobs.
Well that's my story.

Bring back Maggie.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

nooneofconsequence posted:

Bring back Maggie.

She and Kate are a thing in the comics so this would be fine.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Rocksicles posted:

Too bad she's an awful actor, gay or straight.

This.

She is really kinda terrible in everything I've ever seen her in.

Argue
Sep 29, 2005

I represent the Philippines
What I want to know is whether or not they're going to have the show continually namedrop Bruce Wayne until season 2 where they cast a tiny Batman.

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


Aphrodite posted:

She's not gay enough for some people.
What does that mean?

Argue posted:

What I want to know is whether or not they're going to have the show continually namedrop Bruce Wayne until season 2 where they cast a tiny Batman.
What code phrase will they use in place of "your cousin"?

Norwegian Rudo
May 9, 2013

Tiggum posted:

What code phrase will they use in place of "your cousin"?

Kate is literally Bruce's cousin.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Argue posted:

What I want to know is whether or not they're going to have the show continually namedrop Bruce Wayne until season 2 where they cast a tiny Batman.

I am so down for Tiny Bruce.

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


Norwegian Rudo posted:

Kate is literally Bruce's cousin.
Is that something they've changed for the TV version? Because I checked Wikipedia before I posted to make sure I wasn't making that mistake. :doh:

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Tiggum posted:

Is that something they've changed for the TV version? Because I checked Wikipedia before I posted to make sure I wasn't making that mistake. :doh:

No. This version of Kate Kane has always been his cousin.

BrianWilly
Apr 24, 2007

There is no homosexual terrorist Johnny Silverhand
No, not always. It's something specifically added in the DC Rebirth Detective Comics run, so it was only true from 2016 onwards. Before that point, Kate's family had never been connected to Bruce's.




(And ok the Ruby Rose resemblance is pretty strong here isn't it?)

It's a good retcon that made a lot of sense (Martha Wayne's maiden name had been revealed as Martha Kane for years at the time), but it's still a retcon.

BrianWilly fucked around with this message at 10:16 on Aug 8, 2018

Rocksicles
Oct 19, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo

BrianWilly posted:

No, not always. It's something specifically added in the DC Rebirth Detective Comics run, so it was only true from 2016 onwards. Before that point, Kate's family had never been connected to Bruce's.




(And ok the Ruby Rose resemblance is pretty strong here isn't it?)

It's a good retcon that made a lot of sense (Martha Wayne's maiden name had been revealed as Martha Kane for years at the time), but it's still a retcon.

I thought Kate kane was jewish?

BrianWilly
Apr 24, 2007

There is no homosexual terrorist Johnny Silverhand
Yup, she is. Which makes MARTHAA's family Jewish, which makes Batman canonically Jewish by heritage.

Rocksicles
Oct 19, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo

BrianWilly posted:

Yup, she is. Which makes MARTHAA's family Jewish, which makes Batman canonically Jewish by heritage.

Billionaire, krav maga.... checks out.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Do you not remember that one where he keeps calling Robin "the Goy Wonder"?

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Tiggum posted:

What does that mean?

A lot of people think she's too much like the straight guy watching porn vision of what a gay woman looks like.

Rocksicles
Oct 19, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo

Aphrodite posted:

A lot of people think she's too much like the straight guy watching porn vision of what a gay woman looks like.

But they've seen Batwoman right?

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Aphrodite posted:

A lot of people think she's too much like the straight guy watching porn vision of what a gay woman looks like.

I've seen my fair share of lesbian porn and she is nothing like what I think a lesbian should look like :shrug:

Anyway she is not a good actress and I'm sure her wooden style will be perfect for Batwoman :rolleyes:

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to
So uh, after some research I discovered Ruby Rose has a tattoo of Archer. I really hope that's left in and they don't cover any of her tats.

CainsDescendant
Dec 6, 2007

Human nature




Apparently the casting backlash has driven Ruby Rose off of Twitter. Where is all this fan anger coming from again?

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

Entitled assholes who think they own everything.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

CainsDescendant posted:

Apparently the casting backlash has driven Ruby Rose off of Twitter. Where is all this fan anger coming from again?

White Male Nerds. These are the same people who have lost their poo poo over Black and Asian people existing in Star Wars, women making video games, the art style of certain modern cartoons made for children, and how the new She-Ra actually looks like a real 16 year old girl for once and doesn't have giant boobs that they can jerk off to. And that's just the small sliver of Things White Millennial Men Are Angry About that I can pull off the top of my head.

They are children in adult bodies who break their toys in fits of angry because they think their toys have betrayed them by... *checks notes*... keeping up with the march of history.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

It's gay twitter that was mad this time.

Rocksicles
Oct 19, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo

Aphrodite posted:

It's gay twitter that was mad this time.

and Jewish gay twiiter.

TwoPair
Mar 28, 2010

Pandamn It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta
Grimey Drawer

Aphrodite posted:

It's gay twitter that was mad this time.

Yeah, white male twitter probably got it out of their system back when Batwoman was created (and/or when the show was announced), the casting is comparatively nothing to get worked up over.

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



Also poc LGBT were upset because a lot of articles highlighting the casting were calling her the first out cw hero which obviously isn't true because Black Lightning.

It falls back to the narrative that a white person (or in this case company/TV show) do something that black people have already done and get commended X10 or often complete credit all together.

Jewish folks were also upset because Kate is Jewish and they're worried about erasure. Although they're so open about Felicity's judiasm so I really doubt they'd wash that out but 🤷🏾‍♀️

Maybe Ruby can hook up with Candice Patton who I'm sure can give her advice. I guess people were telling her to bleach her skin again which is just.. ugh

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Koalas March posted:

Also poc LGBT were upset because a lot of articles highlighting the casting were calling her the first out cw hero which obviously isn't true because Black Lightning.

It falls back to the narrative that a white person (or in this case company/TV show) do something that black people have already done and get commended X10 or often complete credit all together.

Jewish folks were also upset because Kate is Jewish and they're worried about erasure. Although they're so open about Felicity's judiasm so I really doubt they'd wash that out but 🤷🏾‍♀️

Maybe Ruby can hook up with Candice Patton who I'm sure can give her advice. I guess people were telling her to bleach her skin again which is just.. ugh

Genre fandom is trash. It's probably not going to change any time soon. I'm currently having a spirited discussion on FB about Ruby Rose and my only criticism has been that I have seen many of her works and do not think she's a great actress and the responses have been as if I said I hate all gay people.

Mooseontheloose
May 13, 2003

Koalas March posted:


Jewish folks were also upset because Kate is Jewish and they're worried about erasure. Although they're so open about Felicity's judiasm so I really doubt they'd wash that out but 🤷🏾‍♀️

Maybe Ruby can hook up with Candice Patton who I'm sure can give her advice. I guess people were telling her to bleach her skin again which is just.. ugh

Though Felicity is kinda backup, Ragman was pretty Jewish too, so progress?

Wait, is Ruby a PoC? I saw her on her one season on OitnB and she as pretty meh.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Mooseontheloose posted:

Though Felicity is kinda backup, Ragman was pretty Jewish too, so progress?

Wait, is Ruby a PoC? I saw her on her one season on OitnB and she as pretty meh.

Ruby appears to be caucasian and a quick Googling doesn't tell me otherwise.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Mooseontheloose posted:

Though Felicity is kinda backup, Ragman was pretty Jewish too, so progress?

Wait, is Ruby a PoC? I saw her on her one season on OitnB and she as pretty meh.

I think Koala meant advice on surviving Twitter.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Rhyno posted:

Genre fandom is trash. It's probably not going to change any time soon. I'm currently having a spirited discussion on FB about Ruby Rose and my only criticism has been that I have seen many of her works and do not think she's a great actress and the responses have been as if I said I hate all gay people.

Yeah this. She is kinda a terrible actress regardless of her sexual orientation.

You can absolutely dislike her as a person / actress and her orientation has nothing to do with that.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

MarcusSA posted:

Yeah this. She is kinda a terrible actress regardless of her sexual orientation.

You can absolutely dislike her as a person / actress and her orientation has nothing to do with that.

Not according to hair-trigger social media. I've managed to explain my point but shortly after I got blocked by the person who started the conversation so I can't even tell if anyone else in the thread had anything else to say.

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Koalas March
May 21, 2007



Aphrodite posted:

I think Koala meant advice on surviving Twitter.

Yeah this. They can be fabulous and live their best lives while the haters seethe.

I've only seen Ruby on OITNB and she was pretty bland?. Idk I want to give her a chance. 🤷🏾‍♀️

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