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Potato Salad posted:Over the most recent 500 years, the Fourth Stimpire has overwhelmed four systems, which it has joined into one starzone, Stimsis. New phone who dis Edit: taxxe
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# ? Aug 12, 2018 20:41 |
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hello uhhhhhhh okay quote:This bullshit has to stop. WHY THE gently caress ARE YOU DOWNPLAYING THE TRACKER?? I know that this bullshit $30m~ a year is complete poo poo. You're bringing in way, way more than that. WHY THE gently caress ARE YOU SHOWING 3X LESS ON THIS poo poo??
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# ? Aug 12, 2018 20:53 |
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Potato Salad posted:There was a release date in all caps on the page. Was there though? One of my favorite parts of Star Citizen is how the longer it shambles on the more philosophical the defense of it gets. "What is winning?" "What's a release date anyway?" "Can you even own a spaceship, actually?" "Nothing on earth is ever really finished" "All we are is FUD in the wind."
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# ? Aug 12, 2018 20:54 |
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TheAgent posted:hello uhhhhhhh okay source you are quotes
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# ? Aug 12, 2018 20:56 |
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helloquote:This place is a tomb.
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# ? Aug 12, 2018 20:56 |
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a challenger approaches https://twitter.com/AMAZlNGNATURE/status/1028406731037061120
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# ? Aug 12, 2018 20:57 |
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SoftNum posted:source you are quotes there's suddenly been a loving flurry since friday
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# ? Aug 12, 2018 20:58 |
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SPERMCUBE.ORG posted:"What's a release date anyway?" I think we're at the point where Crobbers could say "You will be playing Squadron 42 in Jan 2019" and citizens would claim he was talking to the internal dev team (after spending 5 months lording the date over goons as "real proof" of not a scam).
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# ? Aug 12, 2018 20:59 |
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All given release dates are dates to crow and cluck over as evidence the new world is already here. All patch numbers are meaningful, even if they literally removed every useful feature and left in something about watermelons. All past release dates were metaphorical, development is hard and epic, these things happen.
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# ? Aug 12, 2018 21:03 |
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TheAgent posted:hello uhhhhhhh okay haha yeah right We all know Ms Best Criminal Since She Was A Little Girl would have shouted "we made 600 million and beat Rockstar & Co" to the world a long time ago.
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# ? Aug 12, 2018 21:04 |
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SPERMCUBE.ORG posted:One of my favorite parts of Star Citizen is how the longer it shambles on the more philosophical the defense of it gets. "What is winning?" "What's a release date anyway?" "Can you even own a spaceship, actually?" "Nothing on earth is ever really finished" "All we are is FUD in the wind." I've been mulling on the, er, less substantive? defense of the project and I think you've hit it on the head.
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# ? Aug 12, 2018 21:07 |
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TheAgent posted:hello You can make a list of the game devs that are genuinely nice places to work and they're either ~20 man indy shops, Paradox Interactive or Firaxis.
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# ? Aug 12, 2018 21:22 |
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Alchenar posted:You can make a list of the game devs that are genuinely nice places to work and they're either ~20 man indy shops, Paradox Interactive or Firaxis. Give it a month, and Portalium will at least meet the second requirement.
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# ? Aug 12, 2018 21:23 |
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port currently has less than 15 devs so and I'll never post anything by any single dev there because it's too loving easy to identify them
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# ? Aug 12, 2018 21:28 |
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He spells *fact* wrong. It's *hosed*.
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G0RF posted:Like clockwork, criticisms of CIG’s abysmal Marketing & PR track record prompts Agent Starloop to grab her sword and take up the defense: fascinating
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quote:If any of these dates are wrong and it releases sooner I will be happy but this is just my estimate of the situation right now holy gently caress i am dying
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# ? Aug 12, 2018 21:33 |
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SoftNum posted:source you are quotes Preferably with real names, twitter and facebook accounts, formated in a blog post .
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# ? Aug 12, 2018 21:34 |
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# ? Aug 12, 2018 21:43 |
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TheAgent posted:This place is a tomb. That's just Ortwin, pay him no mind.
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# ? Aug 12, 2018 22:03 |
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TheAgent posted:hello This can’t true because Chris said he protects the feelings of his employees on RTV... He’s not releasing a Squadron roadmap because then the community will rage at Devs on Spectrum. Chris stands as a human shield before the slings and arrows, absorbing the blows that his obviously inadequate lessers deserve for falling so far short of their protector. No, this just reads like the ravings of a never was who couldn’t cut it. Chris gave them everything, truly everything, and still they failed him. Yet Chris will protect them anyway, such is the selflessness of his lovingkindness. But seriously... The toxicity of the leadership culture is visible from space at this point. Roberts treats the community like garbage and of course those not on the VIP list at CIG/Foundry get far worse. The backers will never know, and even they did, they’re unlikely to care much. Most still interested in Star Citizen are conditioned to defend their own abuse by now and if worse is underway at CIG & Foundry then too bad. No great work of art was produced without suffering, so there’s no reason peons should be protected from that. It’s their fault the games aren’t done already anyway. Right? Beet Wagon posted:
And still SC_TheBursar plays defense for CIG... (and that AstroPub was as deluded.) I have a new edit underway that’s back on Squadron. The 60 second cap on that last one forced a lot out. The new one gets a little deeper and has more fun with a happy little soundtrack. It won’t have any impact of course, beyond (I hope) thread amusement. But there’s stuff even I’d forgotten that’s really funny to see now, even if “official” history has been thrice revised since then.
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# ? Aug 12, 2018 22:12 |
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just a normal man living a normal life telling everyone how normal he is
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# ? Aug 12, 2018 22:17 |
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TheAgent posted:Gamesdev.txt Just spitballing here but maybe if games devs weren't all looking out for #1, and actually talked about their industry problems publicly and then got jobs in other industries or maybe even unionized, then game dev wouldn't be such a complete ghetto of rear end in a top hat management and illegal employment practices? Seems like this kind of thing flourishes in the dark and the "Oh I would never work in the industry again" excuse is pointless. If talking about the shittiest possible place to work gets you blacklisted from that whole industry, maybe the industry is a festering shitpile and you should be glad to be done with it. Making video games isn't a critical life path, y'all, you can do other stuff with your skills.
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# ? Aug 12, 2018 22:43 |
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SPERMCUBE.ORG posted:One of my favorite parts of Star Citizen is how the longer it shambles on the more philosophical the defense of it gets. "What is winning?" "What's a release date anyway?" "Can you even own a spaceship, actually?" "Nothing on earth is ever really finished" "All we are is FUD in the wind." I've noticed this. It's basically the final stage of something that's devolved into a religion. We can't really prove Star Citizen is something bad because the backers have faith that it's something good. If we provide solid evidence of something bad, the evidence is dismissed as a lie (edited config files, photoshops, etc., ironically no evidence of the counterclaim is needed.) Belief in secret dev builds, belief that Chris has a vision, belief that they will cross over into a better life based on their tithe, it's all here. Scruffpuff fucked around with this message at 22:49 on Aug 12, 2018 |
# ? Aug 12, 2018 22:45 |
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Good, now find the reddit posts where silentruin talks about his anal vibrators collection.
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# ? Aug 12, 2018 22:46 |
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Sarsapariller posted:Just spitballing here but maybe if games devs weren't all looking out for #1, and actually talked about their industry problems publicly and then got jobs in other industries or maybe even unionized, then game dev wouldn't be such a complete ghetto of rear end in a top hat management and illegal employment practices? On one hand, that's all true. On the other hand, I can see the point. You know the fans at this point are so rabid, such zealots, that a former employee coming out and putting out what evidence of what a shitshow things were would do nothing. They'd attack that person's private life. Hell I'm pretty sure if Chris came out and said that he used those millions on vacations, cocaine, and cars, and now he was closing the company, the zealots would still defend him, for their own egos if nothing else. And more evidence of this being a shitshow, while it would be amazing and funny as hell for me and others here, just proves what most of us already believe. So yah, get out of the games industry, it blows. But their is no benefit to speaking out, only opening yourself up to being harassed by worthless idiots.
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Drunk Theory posted:On one hand, that's all true. On the other hand, I can see the point. You know the fans at this point are so rabid, such zealots, that a former employee coming out and putting out what evidence of what a shitshow things were would do nothing. They'd attack that person's private life. Hell I'm pretty sure if Chris came out and said that he used those millions on vacations, cocaine, and cars, and now he was closing the company, the zealots would still defend him, for their own egos if nothing else. On the third hand, stuff like the EA Wives lawsuit actually does make a difference (though it's reversing now): https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/feb/18/crunched-games-industry-exploiting-workforce-ea-spouse-software The situation is bad enough, and widespread enough, that a few people publicly owning it would make a lot of noise and generate real media attention and possibly even legislative action. Who gives a poo poo what fans think? I want to influence what congresscritters think. Throw your bodies on the gears.
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# ? Aug 12, 2018 22:56 |
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Sarsapariller posted:Throw your bodies on the gears.
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# ? Aug 12, 2018 23:39 |
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its been widespread enough since 1999, when I started working with games I'm not saying "why do anything, you can't fight the system" but I totally understand why people won't sacrifice their careers, livelihood and reputation to say "working in the games industry sucks and here's why, also here's my name please hit me up with your death threats and SWAT calls because I worked for your favorite company" its not just getting blackballed from the industry, it poses a real life risk to you and your family's safety
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# ? Aug 12, 2018 23:45 |
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I haven't seen evidence of the entire game development industry being an EA nightmare. There are many relatively healthy studios producing games with the odd crunch here or there, they just don't make headlines. The industry's more of a shithole at the entry level because there are so many people willing to debase themselves to chase a childhood dream, clearly, and it's about as bad for people who are passionate but untalented. Kind of like Hollywood.
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# ? Aug 12, 2018 23:54 |
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Chin posted:I haven't seen evidence of the entire game development industry being an EA nightmare. There are many relatively healthy studios producing games with the odd crunch here or there, they just don't make headlines. just an embedded problem inherent in the industry
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TheAgent posted:it poses a real life risk to you and your family's safety it's so bizzare how loving terrible gaming fandom really is. like these giant companies get these loons to pay for tickets to goto conventions to be marketed to directly, which they do earnestly because gaming companies love encouraging communities built around buying poo poo. I remember having this thought for the first time when someone snuck me into E3 when I was 17, the GOD outdoor booth was cool and blew my mind. But the indoor stuff was just depressing. I thought it couldn't get any worse. Almost two decades later and videogame fandom is somehow worse. The idea that there is a Bethesda con or BlizzCon or whatever the gently caress just confuses the gently caress out of me. I guess what I'm saying is gently caress the marketing departments that have created this poo poo ecosystem.
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# ? Aug 12, 2018 23:58 |
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The industry kinda doesn't matter when you're talking about advertising your position, good or bad, on working at the Cultist Wallet Extraction Factory. Whistle blowing sounds a lot less appealing when the cultists will descend on your life like rabid wolverines, and then come back later when it's your fault the dream died. Never Chris' fault. YOU failed Chris, says a man whose box of a thousand fans can not cool his boiling blood.
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Morphix posted:I remember having this thought for the first time when someone snuck me into E3 when I was 17, the GOD outdoor booth was cool and blew my mind. But the indoor stuff was just depressing. I thought it couldn't get any worse. it wasn't that loving long ago, either
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TheAgent posted:I remember when E3 was about big rear end titties and free drinks I was underage and an insecure teenager so I wasn't really able to appreciate the big rear end tities or free drinks because I didn't want to get my buddy from ~company~ whose pass I was using. But I was really hoping back in like 2005~ when E3 was on the verge of being phased out it would and this whole con poo poo would go away. Alas I accidentally ended up helping start the largest con because videogame friends. I am the thing I hate. e- let me just say though for the record, i totes feel lucky to have witness the insanity of the g.o.d. outdoor area. im pretty sure that was the best e3 year. i even fell in love with a sony boothgirl, ~memories~ Morphix fucked around with this message at 00:05 on Aug 13, 2018 |
# ? Aug 13, 2018 00:02 |
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You can tell that SC will have 100 million players in 5-7 years because of their staggering 174 twitch viewer count on a Saturday night When you’re hot, you’re hot, folks.
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fatal oopsie-daisy posted:You can tell that SC will have 100 million players in 5-7 years because of their staggering 174 twitch viewer count on a Saturday night
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# ? Aug 13, 2018 00:13 |
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i'm amazed that star citizens still think that even if the game turns out to be everything they dreamed, that somehow its gonna give them the power to force goons to be their wage slave peons. why would anyone play a game where you're stuck being some dickhead other player's peon? even in EVE corps tend to work in a fairly socialist manner within themselves, or each player just makes their own money with their own ship. i can't think of any game where players are paid a low amount of money to operate a turret or whatever, i'd imagine because that isn't fun at all. people work for min wage irl, but irl has its own set of stresses and pressures that stick people in those jobs. in a game you don't really have to worry about your health or your family or eating or any of that poo poo so why would anyone ever do it. the more likely scenario is a pay pig being murdered by his crew and then his ship stolen.
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juggalo baby coffin posted:i'm amazed that star citizens still think that even if the game turns out to be everything they dreamed, that somehow its gonna give them the power to force goons to be their wage slave peons. why would anyone play a game where you're stuck being some dickhead other player's peon? That’s because they haven’t implemented health and family and hunger mechanics. (I assume that at the very least, hunger I in the nebulous plans. And they keep saying how when you die your Adult Son will take your place. )
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Morphix posted:... I accidentally ended up helping start the largest con because videogame friends. I am the thing I hate. You are not Chris Roberts. You can't just say this and then sod off never talking about it again. Tell us everything.
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