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Kloaked00 posted:Maybe I’m being dumb, but why would Blue Morpho be Vendata? Ah ok, so remember that episode where Vendata is like beaten up to hell, he goes where's my wife, I think the plane is going down. Alot of people speculated that that's Monarch's dad because his dad died in a plane crash, not to mention the fact the theory he worked for Jonas, and then here we proof that he worked with Jonas as Blue Morpho, so yeah. Plus he's been out of the picture so I wouldn't be suprirsed if it ends up being him.
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Kloaked00 posted:Maybe I’m being dumb, but why would Blue Morpho be Vendata? Spoilers/speculation ahoy: Blue Morpho was established as Monarch's dad last season, in that the Morpho Cave was in the basement of Monarch's childhood home and he recognized Morpho as his dad in some videos. There's also been a runner since season 4(?) that Monarch's parents were friendly with Jonas Sr. and Team Venture, when Monarch finds the picture of them all having a cookout together along with baby Monarch and baby Rusty. Vendata's backstory/data dump from season five is that he's a cyborg who previously was known as Venturion, a Team Venture member who got hosed up/died and turned into a cyborg in 1976, then went 'bad' somehow while Rusty was still a kid. Guild records mentioned when Monarch-as-Morpho reappeared last season indicated that they thought Blue Morpho was killed in 1976. Edge & Christian fucked around with this message at 17:21 on Aug 12, 2018 |
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Kloaked00 posted:Maybe I’m being dumb, but why would Blue Morpho be Vendata? Vendata has been implied to be the Monarch's father since before Blue Morpho appeared. Monarch's father died in a plane crash and Vendata's last memories before becoming a cyborg was of a plane crashing. Also the original Blue Morpho's bounty was claimed in 1976, the same year Vendata was built. By Venture Industries.
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It does seem like something they were setting up for a long time, though I think the whole Blue Morpho identity[/i] might be a recent addition. We were right about [spoiler] Wide Wale being Dr Dugong's brother. (Dr Doug Ong was noticeably pinker than I remember) Might be funny if those two have to try to reconcile now and Sirena wants to get to know her uncle. Ghost Leviathan fucked around with this message at 17:44 on Aug 12, 2018 |
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Aug 12, 2018 17:40
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Hey uh you didn't mark those spoilers properly, some people haven't seen episode 2 yet.
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Okay, fair. Sorted.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Okay, fair. Sorted. Thanks, regarding your spoiler. It's kinda great in the book they did mention they left that little hint that Wide Wale's brother was Dugong, which would make the whole him taking Monarch's arching of Dr. Venture, as we thought more of a personal revenge than business.
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Ghost Robot should go on more dates
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Ah, I had forgotten that part about Vendata’s background. Makes much more sense now. Thanks!
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Vendata's original design even had the same overbite as Monarch
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The World Inferno posted:For anyone who's seen the second episode already, any bets on what the shirt's gonna be? I can't say I remember a logo sticking out anywhere. My guess is Enrico Matassa
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Comrade Quack posted:My guess is Enrico Matassa Extremely Hank
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Improbable Lobster posted:Ghost Robot should go on more dates We need a gif of when he turns to Brock and winks Fingers... fingers... fingers...
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Aug 12, 2018 20:45
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The Venture Bros.: Brick-Throwing and Frog-Being!
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God damnit I love this show. I think half my posts in this thread are just saying that but I can’t say it enough. gently caress. Like, too much.
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I thought the second episode was overwritten and the way they ‘fleshed out’ Red Death to talk like Gumshoe Hank on a hot case really killed my vibe and made him way more of a dork and way less of the ethereal force of nature previous episodes painted him as
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I don't think Red Death is meant to be a "force of nature" so much as "a genuine psycho, where everybody else here is at best a really creative and enthusiastic rear end in a top hat."
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both of these episodes were supposed to be the season 6 ending right? adding that to the actually last episode of season 6, it's nice to know they planned a 3 episode arc of Red Death being a sweet and wonderful family man.
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tarlibone posted:The Venture Bros.: Brick-Throwing and Frog-Being!
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Rand Brittain posted:I don't think Red Death is meant to be a "force of nature" so much as "a genuine psycho, where everybody else here is at best a really creative and enthusiastic rear end in a top hat." Yeah exactly, he's supposed to be a Patrick Bateman type of character.
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OG Team Venture got themselves a hell of a Lyft driver.
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AnimeIsTrash posted:Yeah exactly, he's supposed to be a Patrick Bateman type of character. He's not Bateman. The point of Bateman is that he completely lost his humanity and puts on a bad act to hide it. Red Death doesn't hide anything, he still has his humanity and it coexists with his monstrosity, that's the joke
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Red Death is Dexter Morgan
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Bust Rodd posted:I thought the second episode was overwritten and the way they ‘fleshed out’ Red Death to talk like Gumshoe Hank on a hot case really killed my vibe and made him way more of a dork and way less of the ethereal force of nature previous episodes painted him as I thought they leaned a little too hard into the Jaws parody, myself. Although that may be because I just rewatched that movie like a month ago.
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I don't know if he's a directly referencing something (I mean, probably since it's Venture Bros.), but he's certainly a vehicle for speeches ripped from movies. Obviously he did the Taken speech and the Jaws speech. I wouldn't be surprised if his speech about everyone getting blown out of the airlock was from a movie too.
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PostNouveau posted:I don't know if he's a directly referencing something (I mean, probably since it's Venture Bros.), but he's certainly a vehicle for speeches ripped from movies. Obviously he did the Taken speech and the Jaws speech. I wouldn't be surprised if his speech about everyone getting blown out of the airlock was from a movie too. The only thing that comes to mind is Laurence Fishburne's recollection of watching fire in zero-gravity coupled with the scene of the guy getting blown out the airlock in Event Horizon along with the copious amounts of detail given to him on how to survive the experience.
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Like one of Red Death’s super powers is he can just find anyone? Like multiple times he just zooms to wherever someone is with literally no explanation, he kills without remorse, and even the guild council are all afraid of him. The only people we’ve seen on that level in the show are the 3 red guys and Killinger. I really did miss this show but the Dr. Dugong plot was extremely disappointing
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Bust Rodd posted:Like one of Red Death’s super powers is he can just find anyone? Like multiple times he just zooms to wherever someone is with literally no explanation, he kills without remorse, and even the guild council are all afraid of him. The only people we’ve seen on that level in the show are the 3 red guys and Killinger.
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my issue is specifically that’s now two completely separate characters whose death has had massive implications for a number of characters and WHOOPS SURPRISE THEY AREN’T DEAD like you really had to recycle the most boring gotcha plot device ever twice in the same story with different characters?
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PostNouveau posted:I don't know if he's a directly referencing something (I mean, probably since it's Venture Bros.), but he's certainly a vehicle for speeches ripped from movies. Obviously he did the Taken speech and the Jaws speech. I wouldn't be surprised if his speech about everyone getting blown out of the airlock was from a movie too. Well it's also a Jaws scene - Quint's speech about the WW2 ship he was on.
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Bust Rodd posted:my issue is specifically that’s now two completely separate characters whose death has had massive implications for a number of characters and WHOOPS SURPRISE THEY AREN’T DEAD like you really had to recycle the most boring gotcha plot device ever twice in the same story with different characters? There has to be more than just two
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New shirt is out; it's the blue morpho on modern enemy monthly it's beautiful 
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Now THAT is a minty fresh shirt
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Rocko looks like Jon Bernthal as the Punisher
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Question Friend posted:He's not Bateman. The point of Bateman is that he completely lost his humanity and puts on a bad act to hide it. Red Death doesn't hide anything, he still has his humanity and it coexists with his monstrosity, that's the joke Plus Bateman is basically a loser in his social circle who's effectively lashing out because of this; Red Death is an otherwise decent family man with a particular hobby. MizPiz fucked around with this message at 08:01 on Aug 13, 2018 |
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DACK FAYDEN posted:I know there's already a planned title from ep 2 I hope this is it. I would also accept I dressed-a myself like a Juggalo, sir!
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Red Death, based on Ep2 Seems to be one of the very few villians who respects The Monarch AND also think the rest of the Guild are basically idiots. Which is true - the Guild is just full of idiots and the Monarch - when he's not arching Venture - really can be quite dangerous Great episode again
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:Red Death, based on Ep2 Oddly enough makes a degree of sense; they actually have a bit in common. The Monarch is also willing to break the Guild's rules and actually has passion for arching, rather than just doing it for something to do, to pay the bills or to climb the ladder like a lot of the guild, and arches on his own terms and no one else's. And he's also got a family he's trying to balance with his passion. Red Death is flat out encouraging the Monarch to be more like him- starting with finally killing Dr Venture to he's no longer held back by a single fixation. Reminding me oddly of Dr Killinger...
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Hedrigall posted:Well it's also a Jaws scene - Quint's speech about the WW2 ship he was on. Yeah, the monologue while looking at the OSI records was Quint's Indianapolis speech.
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