Tokamak posted:

He was doing the white knight thing of claiming CIG never promised a release date for SQ42. Then when presented with clips of Chris saying SQ42 will be finished by the end of the year for 3 or so years straight, spent dozens of posts attacking the poster and refusing to acknowledge what Chris said.

Eventually they realised they were irrationally defending CIG. But due to being depressed and suffering from black and white thinking, it caused them to completely flip positions on CIG. Since Chris mislead backers, the game went from being the only good thing in their life to a scam like everything else. They deleted their account because they were extremely distressed by the revelation.

Beet Wagon posted:

How I didn't turn on them the instant they said that poo poo is still a mystery to me. Hell, how I didn't turn on them the second they called it "Squadron 42" is an even bigger mystery. Might as well have named it "Le Epic Bacon Brigade"

Colostomy Bag posted:

Christ, this poo poo-tire fire from hell has ruined lots of things like that.

Jobbo_Fett posted:

Did you know that the Queen of England has her own ATM machine, which is supplied by Coutts and Co?

Scruffpuff posted:

I can't even see the word Fidelity (bank, mutual funds, whatever) without laughing. poo poo, they used the word in Star Trek: Bridge Crew and I had to wonder if the devs were taking potshots at Star Citizen.

There's a part of me that wishes Chris Roberts could really see - really understand and internalize - that he's a walking punch line.

Zaphod42 posted:

It really does frustrate me.

I think poo poo like that should really be illegal, but I don't know how you'd enforce it. But poo poo like Elon Musk naming a company "Tesla"... that's pretty lovely.

The Titanic posted:

I sure hope CR sleeps well each night knowing what he's doing to people.

I hope he has to face all this some day, but I know before that he'll just take off with his share and wash his hands of everything he's done without even a limp in his step. He's very likely a millionaire now so yeah. Congrats to backers I guess.

Zaphod42 posted:

He was probably a millionaire before SC, right? He was a hollywood producer briefly. A lovely one, but people with no skills or talent often find ways to get paid huge sums of cash. Our economy is loving stupid.

A million isn't really that much these days either.

Zaphod42 posted:

He was probably a millionaire before SC, right? He was a hollywood producer briefly. A lovely one, but people with no skills or talent often find ways to get paid huge sums of cash. Our economy is loving stupid.

A million isn't really that much these days either.

Beet Wagon posted:

How I didn't turn on them the instant they said that poo poo is still a mystery to me.

Hav posted:

Squadron 42 gave me a hell of a wince, but I thought, why not, he's a grown rear end man, and he just wants to make a game and nod to nerds.

How wrong I was.

Scruffpuff posted:

It's morons all the way down.

The Titanic posted:

Honestly don't know. Rumor speculates a lot of things but I don't care to dig into it all. All it leads to is lies and lies and then you wonder why people are totally ok with all the lies (a lot of them in Sandis court).

Scruffpuff posted:

We're getting to a point where I'm not sure the word "lie" even applies any more.

In a pure semantic sense, sure - according to the dictionary, blah blah, this is what constitutes a "lie."

But we're seeing situations more and more where if you ask somebody a question about practically anything, they just start rambling a random story that's forming in real time in their heads. "Oh yes, I was a millionaire and let me tell you about this one time I stopped a terrorist on a boat with a banana peel blah blah" and it goes on for 15 minutes - was that a lie? What was the lie specifically? The entire story was a fiction from beginning to end.

People like Sandi do that - her mouth opens, and it's Storytime. Chris is the same way. It rings differently than "I didn't shoot that guy and I've never seen that gun in my pocket before now." I'm almost leaning toward placing some of the blame on the "positive thinking" movement that repeated for decades that if you keep saying something will happen, or has happened, then it will happen. Act like a success, and you'll become one!

Or in the Roberts' case, just redefine success as "making a lot of money by lying about things and then stealing it."

The Titanic posted:

I think the best part of it all is that it's not about the game, it's about the drama around it. The game is the social aspect of it all, with the thing at the centerpiece continuing to be a broken mess that always will be better soon.

That it's captured the crazy gaming demographic in some areas is fun. 7 years in and we're just at the beginning really still.

Though the sad part is that it will slowly dry up. There probably won't be a Big Bang or drama to take it out, but a slow bleed that people just lose interest in. I'm not even sure I care to look at the screenshots or videos anymore even. If I see the 5 year old Mark Hamill render again I know that there's been zero progress. The media clips of their ships on top of hugely photoshopped pictures is just so samey.

I hope we continue to have crazy drama, and I hope more people get involved besides a few hardcore defenders who seem to be losing ground.

The Titanic posted:

I sure hope CR sleeps well each night knowing what he's doing to people.

Zaphod42 posted:

He was probably a millionaire before SC, right? He was a hollywood producer briefly. A lovely one, but people with no skills or talent often find ways to get paid huge sums of cash. Our economy is loving stupid.

A million isn't really that much these days either.

Scruffpuff posted:

I can't even see the word Fidelity (bank, mutual funds, whatever) without laughing. poo poo, they used the word in Star Trek: Bridge Crew and I had to wonder if the devs were taking potshots at Star Citizen.

There's a part of me that wishes Chris Roberts could really see - really understand and internalize - that he's a walking punch line.

Zaphod42 posted:

Do we need to take a survey of how many goons thought SC was cool originally?

I guess the red flags are less obvious if you haven't worked in the industry, but this poo poo was pretty clearly bonkers-town to me the first time I heard of the kickstarter.

Colostomy Bag posted:

I think one lately is I'll poke into VR related threads and I'll see the word "immersive". And then I cringe.

trucutru posted:

You don't stay a millionaire after Kevin Costner is done rampaging. That was it for Chris' millions

Scruffpuff posted:

There is actually some fun stuff on the way. Might not flame out dramatically, but remember how funny it was when Skadden got involved? There are a few more of those things in the hopper. Again, probably won't result in some epic burnout, but even though Star Citizen will die the Death of 1000 Incompetent Cuts, there will still be a few brutal slashes to give the corpse some character.

The Titanic posted:

I hope he has to face all this some day, but I know before that he'll just take off with his share and wash his hands of everything he's done without even a limp in his step. He's very likely a millionaire now so yeah. Congrats to backers I guess.

Nyast posted:

Don't spread FUD, Goonie. Chris was a billionaire before he started Star Citizen. He spent millions of his own money to fund the Kickstarter. And even if he now takes in a comfortable salary, he deserves it. After all, he's spending his nights in coding sessions to fix the mess his teams are making.

Nyast posted:

Don't spread FUD, Goonie. Chris was a billionaire before he started Star Citizen. He spent millions of his own money to fund the Kickstarter. And even if he now takes in a comfortable salary, he deserves it. After all, he's spending his nights in coding sessions to fix the mess his teams are making.

TheSickeningTruth posted:

Because I believe that unlike homosexuality, which is a natural thing that can be found in every specie, the "trans" phenomenon is more of a psychological ailment that mostly afflicts people in modern Western societies.
As you say, it should only matters to them, and so they shouldn't expect me nor anyone else to play a along and call them with whatever pronoun their mood decide. I'm sorry, if someone is born male, he'll always be male, no amount of surgery can change that, and so I'll always call him a male, because that's what he is, I don't see what's wrong with that.
It's been said several times in this topic, a lot of citizens are unhappy with who they are irl and thus are looking to be reborn in the verse-matrix where they'll be a better, fantasized self. The analogy with trans is pretty obvious.

Anyway, I believe we have the right to disagree on that topic, I don't get why some people behave as if I claimed trans should be stoned or forced to play SC for the rest of their life. It's always interesting how people react when confronted with someone who doesn't share their opinion.

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Beet Wagon posted:

Tsar Mikey posted:

Put your mind at ease, friend. The number 42 has nothing to do with Hitchhiker's Guide, it was actually Sandi's favorite number!

How I didn't turn on them the instant they said that poo poo is still a mystery to me. Hell, how I didn't turn on them the second they called it "Squadron 42" is an even bigger mystery. Might as well have named it "Le Epic Bacon Brigade"

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reverend crabhands posted:

How I didn't turn on them the instant they said that poo poo is still a mystery to me. Hell, how I didn't turn on them the second they called it "Squadron 42" is an even bigger mystery. Might as well have named it "Le Epic Bacon Brigade"

Sorry. And I'm sure I'm going to look like an idiot for asking.

But are you saying CIG/Chris actually claimed "42" was used because it's Sandi's favourite number? Not some SA in-joke or anything?

Scruffpuff posted:

There is actually some fun stuff on the way. Might not flame out dramatically, but remember how funny it was when Skadden got involved? There are a few more of those things in the hopper. Again, probably won't result in some epic burnout, but even though Star Citizen will die the Death of 1000 Incompetent Cuts, there will still be a few brutal slashes to give the corpse some character.

trucutru posted:

Thanks. I had a lovely day and needed a god laugh.

It's all the incompetent fuckers fault, not his. If there is one thing that Roberts will learn from this is that every other human being on the planet is a useless, ungrateful idiot

Lord Stimperor posted:

Wouldn't you know it - I don't have time to catch up with the thread for two days and the entire thread goes weird. I guess you could say the sickening truth came out.

Gonna postpone catching up to a later time.

Mirificus posted:

Peter.Quint posted:

Well, well, well. Looks like the thread got a new guy who was worse than me and my unfortunate confession that I jerked off to pictures of Nicole de Boer I found online.

Doesn't seem so bad, now, does it? Peter.Quint - not such a bad guy, they say.

The Titanic posted:

I think the best part of it all is that it's not about the game, it's about the drama around it. The game is the social aspect of it all, with the thing at the centerpiece continuing to be a broken mess that always will be better soon.

That it's captured the crazy gaming demographic in some areas is fun. 7 years in and we're just at the beginning really still.

Though the sad part is that it will slowly dry up. There probably won't be a Big Bang or drama to take it out, but a slow bleed that people just lose interest in. I'm not even sure I care to look at the screenshots or videos anymore even. If I see the 5 year old Mark Hamill render again I know that there's been zero progress. The media clips of their ships on top of hugely photoshopped pictures is just so samey.

I hope we continue to have crazy drama, and I hope more people get involved besides a few hardcore defenders who seem to be losing ground.