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Yvonmukluk
Oct 10, 2012

Everything is Sinister


Dreissi posted:

End the war and build a world worth living in: Socialists.

Historically, it seems to work out best to win the war, then vote in the socialists. So we don't have to worry about reactionaries undermining the war effort.

So my vote goes to the Imperialists.

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Pacho
Jun 9, 2010
After the atrocities in Andalusian Kongo, the Imperialists are even worse than the reactionaries. Socialism is the only moral choice

Patter Song
Mar 26, 2010

Hereby it is manifest that during the time men live without a common power to keep them all in awe, they are in that condition which is called war; and such a war as is of every man against every man.
Fun Shoe
I don't see why you all are so worked up over what's happening in Congo. What's happening in Congo is rubber, tropical wood, and other exotic resources are entering our economy. Why would anyone be unhappy about that? What's a hand here or a famine there, in the long run?

MaxieSatan
Oct 19, 2017

critical support for anarchists

Patter Song posted:

I don't see why you all are so worked up over what's happening in Congo. What's happening in Congo is rubber, tropical wood, and other exotic resources are entering our economy. Why would anyone be unhappy about that? What's a hand here or a famine there, in the long run?

Not to advocate on behalf of the shortsighted fools who would throw away everything we've worked for, but the same could be said for the horrific practices of Morocco. We must aim to be better than them, or else why were we put on this Earth?

Surely we can expropriate a massive amount of value without being monsters about it.

RestRoomLiterature-
Jun 3, 2008

staying regular
We pay out workers in the colonies. Morocco enslaves theirs. It is our morale obligation to defeat them and strip them of their possessions

Slaan
Mar 16, 2009



ASHERAH DEMANDS I FEAST, I VOTE FOR A FEAST OF FLESH
I think that you'll find that killing and robbing people of their resources and starving their families is a very bad thing. Right?


That's why the reactionaries need to be in power so that they can protect the innocent hard working nobility from the unjust, rapacious communists and socialists that seek to "eat the rich." Cannibalistic dogs!

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Slaan posted:

I think that you'll find that killing and robbing people of their resources and starving their families is a very bad thing. Right?


That's why the reactionaries need to be in power so that they can protect the innocent hard working nobility from the unjust, rapacious communists and socialists that seek to "eat the rich." Cannibalistic dogs!

Ah, good to see someone else that see's the truth of why we need The Royalists back in POWER! Look, the so called lawmakers who have been leading our people away from good Royal rule, their laws are going to be overturned and the Sultan will have his power back, mark my words people! Also I don't see the Viezier denying that he looks like he comes from Libya!

Crowsbeak fucked around with this message at 22:23 on Aug 14, 2018

oystertoadfish
Jun 17, 2003

RestRoomLiterature- posted:

We pay out workers in the colonies. Morocco enslaves theirs. It is our morale obligation to defeat them and strip them of their possessions

although the currency in which we pay them often tends to be human hands

the best part is even after we go red, socialist theories of the economic value of labor could be taken a bit too literally and the practice of chopping off the means of production and using them as currency could continue. this is a weird paragraph

edit: may as well vote for the Socialists while I'm at it

Top Hats Monthly
Jun 22, 2011


People are people so why should it be, that you and I should get along so awfully blink blink recall STOP IT YOU POSH LITTLE SHIT
My only fear with socialists is that we would have to adapt to a smaller army midwar, since I believe their policies are anti-large standing army. That'd be pretty bad if a unit stops reinforcing when we need it.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021


oystertoadfish posted:

although the currency in which we pay them often tends to be human hands

the best part is even after we go red, socialist theories of the economic value of labor could be taken a bit too literally and the practice of chopping off the means of production and using them as currency could continue. this is a weird paragraph

Chopping things off is a common practice for the nobility, as history has attested. I approve its democratic expansion.

ChaseSP
Mar 25, 2013



Socialism is the true way to prosperity for our nation.
Until the communist revolution comes and we take down the rich across all of Europe :getin:

Dance Officer
May 4, 2017

It would be awesome if we could dance!

MaxieSatan posted:

Not to advocate on behalf of the shortsighted fools who would throw away everything we've worked for, but the same could be said for the horrific practices of Morocco. We must aim to be better than them, or else why were we put on this Earth?

Surely we can expropriate a massive amount of value without being monsters about it.

Look here, we're civilizing them. The least these savages could do in return is to work for us, but no. So why shouldn't we use a bit of coercion?

MatchaZed
Feb 14, 2010

We Can Do It!


Imperialists

I've voted for the Merchants all the way through, won't change now.

Ikasuhito
Sep 29, 2013

Haram as Fuck.

I am very concerned about the number of socialist votes being cast in here. Here we are about to crush our hated enemy and finally reclaim all of our ancient homeland, and there you are trying to switch over control of the government to a bunch of reds who are anti military and may very well belly up to Morocco if the war takes just a bit too long.

Y'all are a bunch of Morocco loving traitors is what you are. :colbert:

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy
What is the vote count?

The Bold Kobold
Aug 11, 2014

Bold to the point of certain death.

Crowsbeak posted:

What is the vote count?

When I last checked last night, something like 2/3 voted Imperialist

unwantedplatypus
Sep 6, 2012
I, Balanabus, have faithfully carried out my orders to subdue the congo basin and mozambique. I have done it with the utmost zeal and efficiency. I have brought these natives religion and enlightenment, steel and railroads, science and medicine. What this book doesn't understand and what the Majlis is blind to is that I treat the savages with the utmost care and affection. They are as children to me, and sometimes children need to be punished, lest they grow complacent and spoiled. Would you rather the Moroccans turn them into mere slaves, rather than faithful servants of the Andalusi state?

Khedive is an excellent title for a caretaker such as myself, someone to rule in the place of the Majlis. After all, will it not be I who must defend these colonies? Will it not be the blood of my men that preserves what was gained through the very same?

Give me these titles, give me this autonomy, and I will make Andalusi Africa as a city on a hill, a shining example of civilization arising from savagery, light from darkness. This city will be beset by greedy scavengers, and I will defend it as its savior!

MaxieSatan
Oct 19, 2017

critical support for anarchists
Can somebody assassinate him?

Slaan
Mar 16, 2009



ASHERAH DEMANDS I FEAST, I VOTE FOR A FEAST OF FLESH
He sounds like a perfect gentleman and hero to me! What every noble and Andalusian should aspire to emulate!

Jack2142
Jul 17, 2014

Shitposting in Seattle

If slavery is bad for the economy and generates unrest I don't think we should liberate Moroccan slaves as a humiliating war goal.

MatchaZed
Feb 14, 2010

We Can Do It!


Imagine, Balanabus Scholars defending the name of their foundation a century from now.

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

Clearly the problem with the colonies is that such ruffians are in charge, not the concept of colonialism in and of itself. Fire the khedives and centralize control. Maybe we could name our fair monarch the Sultan of the Congo?

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Mantis42 posted:

Clearly the problem with the colonies is that such ruffians are in charge, not the concept of colonialism in and of itself. Fire the khedives and centralize control. Maybe we could name our fair monarch the Sultan of the Congo?

I fully support this.

Veryslightlymad
Jun 3, 2007

I fight with
my brain
and with an
underlying
hatred of the
Erebonian
Noble Faction
Imperialists. We've had our first period of actual prosperity and growth in almost 200 years.

Also, every time I've seen the socialists take over in one of these LPs, the entire country falls into a spiral of chaos and death.

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

Lets get our X tons of Duranium back!

....Is that still a valid thing to jingoistically blow out of proportion?


Veryslightlymad posted:

Imperialists. We've had our first period of actual prosperity and growth in almost 200 years.

Also, every time I've seen the socialists take over in one of these LPs, the entire country falls into a spiral of chaos and death.

Wow excuse you ByzLP is the objectively best place to live in any Paradox LP

MaxieSatan
Oct 19, 2017

critical support for anarchists

Mantis42 posted:

Clearly the problem with the colonies is that such ruffians are in charge, not the concept of colonialism in and of itself. Fire the khedives and centralize control. Maybe we could name our fair monarch the Sultan of the Congo?

Hear, hear! At last a sensible proposal, one which I think everyone save the hardline Socialists can support.

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

someone introduce jojo to lazyb


Crazycryodude posted:

Wow excuse you ByzLP is the objectively best place to live in any Paradox LP

Fingers crossed for HoI4, but ByzLP STOPPED its constant death spiral by going commie :v:

Super Jay Mann
Nov 6, 2008

Look you all can be a bunch of anti-war kumbaya sharing hippies if we go to space in Stellaris or something, but here on Earth we have no time for getting kicked on by our neighbors :colbert:

everydayfalls
Aug 23, 2016
Imperialist

Jingo party is best party for the coming war, also colonies are pretty great.

We should try to grab borneo if stupid morocco hasn't already, for no reason what so ever. its oil, oil is always the reason

Jack2142
Jul 17, 2014

Shitposting in Seattle

everydayfalls posted:

Imperialist

Jingo party is best party for the coming war, also colonies are pretty great.

We should try to grab borneo if stupid morocco hasn't already, for no reason what so ever. its oil, oil is always the reason

Too bad Palm Oil isn't a trade good then we could double up on the oil!!!

Red John
Jul 12, 2018
Royalists. The socialists are traitors who’d gleefully see our position weaken internationally on pursuit of a ludicrous happy-go-lucky attitude towards governance. They’ve openly admitted to considering the possibility of allowing Morocco to retain its land on the peninsula, and more importantly, any update with the socialists in charge will be utterly boring. No colonialism, no wars, just jerking ourselves off as we slip into into isolationism and let the Moroccans once again become a grave threat.

Bloody socialists. :colbert:

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

Red John posted:

any update with the socialists in charge will be utterly boring
honestly this IS my one worry for socialists: clearly the best way to run the country and make money, ALSO mostly static by nature, unless they become so entrenched that the Communists become an option

Snipee
Mar 27, 2010

Rodyle posted:

unless they become so entrenched that the Communists become an option

One of the main reasons why I want to vote socialist is to eventually unban the Communist Party. No other party is going to do it. :colbert:

The Bold Kobold
Aug 11, 2014

Bold to the point of certain death.
I'm totally down with going Socialist then going Communist. :ussr:

GSD
May 10, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
Socialists

As Allah intends.

Jack2142
Jul 17, 2014

Shitposting in Seattle

Going Imperialist though would continue to lead to potential political reforms which should continue to expand the vote at least...

Snipee
Mar 27, 2010

Jack2142 posted:

Going Imperialist though would continue to lead to potential political reforms which should continue to expand the vote at least...

Jack2142 posted:

If slavery is bad for the economy and generates unrest I don't think we should liberate Moroccan slaves as a humiliating war goal.

Dude, you’re not going to convince any socialists that your lot has any interest in altruism.

Jack2142
Jul 17, 2014

Shitposting in Seattle

Snipee posted:

Dude, you’re not going to convince any socialists that your lot has any interest in altruism.

Fake news

Kaptain
Oct 5, 2014
Moderates

At the very least, we need cultural funding for music for this sad state of affairs. Al Layla, play بلطف

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AJ_Impy
Jun 17, 2007

SWORD OF SMATTAS. CAN YOU NOT HEAR A WORLD CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE? WHEN WILL YOU DELIVER IT?
Yam Slacker
Imperialists.

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