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Bad Munki
Nov 4, 2008

We're all mad here.


spog posted:

Concrete layered with ex-mafia employees.

Like a lasagna?

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tetrapyloctomy
Feb 18, 2003

Okay -- you talk WAY too fast.
Nap Ghost

Proteus Jones posted:

A 200m span of a major bridge in Genoa, Italy collapsed, plunging over 30m. Estimates (which are notoriously inaccurate this early) are 10 dead.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-45183624

Yikes. Uneven settling of the foundation, maybe.

Or it'll just be that one bolt in a seemingly inconsequential hanger/fastener, in a hard-to-visualize area, was cross-threaded and not set to spec, and millions of little jiggles over time caused it to fail, triggering a catastrophe.

Azza Bamboo
Apr 7, 2018


THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021
It's probably one of those things where a load of little "eh, bugger it" calls over many years piled up to make one big oh poo poo moment.

schmug
May 20, 2007

tetrapyloctomy posted:

Yikes. Uneven settling of the foundation, maybe.

Or it'll just be that one bolt in a seemingly inconsequential hanger/fastener, in a hard-to-visualize area, was cross-threaded and not set to spec, and millions of little jiggles over time caused it to fail, triggering a catastrophe.

There are reports that that they were working on the foundation when it happened.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

I hope Italy rounds up its meteorologists for not preventing the lightning that downed the bridge.

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸
Has there ever been a case where a structural failure was linked to a mob-informant-in-concrete scenario?

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you
Their lead bridge builder was off somewhere running a church, I doubt he signed off on the construction.

autism ZX spectrum
Feb 8, 2007

by Lowtax
Fun Shoe
A buddy of mine had a deck kind of like that one from reddit. The builder decided to nail every board to its neighbour to prevent them from heaving because that's typically what happens if you don't leave any gaps. Apparently it was tons of fun to take down.

Factor Mystic
Mar 20, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction

Splicer posted:

Has there ever been a case where a structural failure was linked to a mob-informant-in-concrete scenario?

This is pretty close? https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/08/13/body-found-pillar-winco-grocery-store-lancaster-california/977058002/

the news posted:

The discovery came after a store manager noticed the strange odor stemming from a pillar outside the entrance of a California supermarket. Thinking a sewage leak had occurred, the manager called a plumber, who chipped away at the pillar's brick to reveal a person's leg inside.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

I know it isn't the plastic wrap column from a few days ago, but I like to imagine it is.

schmug
May 20, 2007

Factor Mystic posted:


Splicer posted:

Has there ever been a case where a structural failure was linked to a mob-informant-in-concrete scenario?

This is pretty close? https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/08/13/body-found-pillar-winco-grocery-store-lancaster-california/977058002/

Yeah that doesn't cover either one of op's questions. Weird story though.

schmug fucked around with this message at 12:24 on Aug 15, 2018

schmug
May 20, 2007

edit is not quote. fml

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸

schmug posted:

Yeah that doesn't cover either one of op's questions. Weird story though.
I didn't reply because that story is going to give me genuine nightmares.

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


Splicer posted:

I didn't reply because that story is going to give me genuine nightmares.

I actually read it now and oh my

sauer kraut
Oct 2, 2004
Yeah I think I'll take buried alive lying in a nice, cool coffin over.. whatever that was :suicide101:

tetrapyloctomy
Feb 18, 2003

Okay -- you talk WAY too fast.
Nap Ghost
Yeah, that sounds like a particularly uncomfortable way to go.

schmug
May 20, 2007

Splicer posted:

I didn't reply because that story is going to give me genuine nightmares.

I started reading it wondered why it took so long for someone to notice the smell if....oh poo poo, it has only been in there how long and he was alive?!?!? ...and then I started wondering how many people walked by that column hearing mumbled screams and thinking they were just hearing things before the smell actually kicked in :stare:

FrankeeFrankFrank
Apr 21, 2005

Say word son.


https://www.treehugger.com/sustainable-product-design/worlds-largest-tree-house-stands-10-stories-tall.html

I saw this thing on tv last night. I only watched about 5 minutes of it, but they interviewed the builder. I'll paraphrase... "It's a solid structure. If it was a small piece of wood I'd use 1 nail, if it was bigger I'd use 2 or 3 nails. I'd use nails until it was solid. Some pieces of wood are just full of nails."

I guess this guy just started nailing pieces of wood together until it turned into this.

Do you not need permits or inspections for something like this?

EDIT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_VPGOWYz_8

This is a clip from the show I saw, but unfortunately it doesn't include the nail explanation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horace_Burgess%27s_Treehouse

"Closed by the state for fire code violations"

FrankeeFrankFrank fucked around with this message at 16:02 on Aug 15, 2018

schmug
May 20, 2007

FrankeeFrankFrank posted:



https://www.treehugger.com/sustainable-product-design/worlds-largest-tree-house-stands-10-stories-tall.html

I saw this thing on tv last night. I only watched about 5 minutes of it, but they interviewed the builder. I'll paraphrase... "It's a solid structure. If it was a small piece of wood I'd use 1 nail, if it was bigger I'd use 2 or 3 nails. I'd use nails until it was solid. Some pieces of wood are just full of nails."

I guess this guy just started nailing pieces of wood together until it turned into this.

Do you not need permits or inspections for something like this?

that's the stuff :awesome:

Ashcans
Jan 2, 2006

Let's do the space-time warp again!

FrankeeFrankFrank posted:

Do you not need permits or inspections for something like this?

EDIT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_VPGOWYz_8

This is a clip from the show I saw, but unfortunately it doesn't include the nail explanation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horace_Burgess%27s_Treehouse

"Closed by the state for fire code violations"

I was going to say, he's in some small town in TN, so you can probably get away with an awful lot just hammering away on your own property until you start drawing attention but advertising it.

Dillbag
Mar 4, 2007

Click here to join Lem Lee in the Hell Of Being Cut To Pieces
Nap Ghost

FrankeeFrankFrank posted:



https://www.treehugger.com/sustainable-product-design/worlds-largest-tree-house-stands-10-stories-tall.html

I saw this thing on tv last night. I only watched about 5 minutes of it, but they interviewed the builder. I'll paraphrase... "It's a solid structure. If it was a small piece of wood I'd use 1 nail, if it was bigger I'd use 2 or 3 nails. I'd use nails until it was solid. Some pieces of wood are just full of nails."

I guess this guy just started nailing pieces of wood together until it turned into this.

Do you not need permits or inspections for something like this?

EDIT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_VPGOWYz_8

This is a clip from the show I saw, but unfortunately it doesn't include the nail explanation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horace_Burgess%27s_Treehouse

"Closed by the state for fire code violations"

I remember that house from The Peanut Butter Solution

ChairmanGoesWoof
Jul 12, 2016

Proteus Jones posted:

A 200m span of a major bridge in Genoa, Italy collapsed, plunging over 30m. Estimates (which are notoriously inaccurate this early) are 10 dead.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-45183624

It's up to 39 dead, 15 in hospital and 400 evacuated from their homes under the bridge of Damocles.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-45193614

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Kanish
Jun 17, 2004

https://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/97i674/diy_gone_wrong/

at what point would a normal homeowner realize this wasnt going great??

xwing
Jul 2, 2007
red leader standing by
Oh Lord... that's scary.

EDIT: Both the tile and wiring. Jeebus.

xwing fucked around with this message at 21:11 on Aug 15, 2018

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

https://media.giphy.com/media/31X5ghk7jVujsiSstg/giphy.mp4

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011
AaaaaaAAAAAAAAA

FrankeeFrankFrank
Apr 21, 2005

Say word son.

you could take someone off the street that knows nothing about construction, let them watch a 30 min. DIY tv show, and then turn them loose and they would do a better job than that.

Were they actually trying to make shelves out of only the tiles themselves? It's like this person has never even seen a tiled shower.

Blue Footed Booby
Oct 4, 2006

got those happy feet

FrankeeFrankFrank posted:

you could take someone off the street that knows nothing about construction, let them watch a 30 min. DIY tv show, and then turn them loose and they would do a better job than that.

Were they actually trying to make shelves out of only the tiles themselves? It's like this person has never even seen a tiled shower.

That's why I kinda suspect there was some combo of drugs and mental illness involved.

Haifisch
Nov 13, 2010

Objection! I object! That was... objectionable!



Taco Defender

Kanish posted:

https://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/97i674/diy_gone_wrong/

at what point would a normal homeowner realize this wasnt going great??
Bonus unrelated story from the comments:

quote:

quote:

Pay peanuts, get a monkey.

Now if only I could convince my aunt of this. At her old house she hired a guy to do some tiling in her closet-sized basement bathroom. It took him a few months to do what should have only taken one person a few days.

She bought a new house for dirt cheap from a guy who does shoddy handywork as a side job; he said that he renovated the entire house on his own. As it turns out, he used bits and bobs from his other house-flipping endeavors. Within weeks of living in the house, problems begin to emerge. The boiler and furnace break, the sump pump doesn't pump, the concrete patio cracks, etc. The best part is that she is now next-door neighbors with the guy she bought the house from.

She wanted to fix these issues with the house so she hired basement bathroom guy to redo her backyard. She wants sod, the concrete patio should be replaced by brick, a roof over the patio, and the gutters need somewhere to drain so that it doesn't just pool in the yard and driveway. Well for the drainage he digs a massive hole in the backyard, fills it with rocks, then throws a few inches of dirt on top of it. Now, rather than having large puddles all over her yard she has a swimming pool in her lawn. He threw the shittiest sod I've ever seen over the top - it came with weeds pre-installed. Her yard looks like a lumpy piece of poo poo because he couldn't even be bothered to level the dirt he threw over his rock pit. Then he builds the roof, which fails inspection multiple times, lays the bricks, which almost immediately became uneven, and did about half of the finish on the roof and pillars. This took him the entirety of the spring, summer, and fall. At the end of the season he leaves a wheelbarrow with a flat tire and several shovels, picks, etc. behind her shed.

It's worth mentioning that this whole time my family has, for some reason, been treating these random workers with the kid gloves on. I'm talking about buying them meals on a weekly basis, giving them bottles of water from her fridge, providing beers at least once IIRC, etc.

My aunt says that he couldn't be expected to work during the Winter so she doesn't contact him until Spring warms up. He starts going on about how he needs to get to other projects before he can return and finish hers for several months. Eventually he stops answering the phone. Several months later we hear that he ran back to Nicaragua or wherever the gently caress he was from.

My aunt then gets stuck trying to find someone who will finish the job, which absolutely no one wants to do for the reason you mentioned in your comment. Everyone just assumes that she's a bad client.

She recently hired another company to do a different project on the house, and of course she went with the contractor that lowballed everyone. It took him months to complete what every other contractor said they could have done within a week. He also stole an avocado from her kitchen and ate it like a savage - no knife; he ripped off the skin with his teeth and just started taking bites out of it.
Don't just go with the cheapest guy every time you need house stuff done, folks.

Selachian
Oct 9, 2012

tetrapyloctomy posted:

Yeah, that sounds like a particularly uncomfortable way to go.

For the love of God, Montresor!

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

Haifisch posted:

Bonus unrelated story from the comments:

This reminds me of my coworker's mom who hired a guy to paint 5 rooms in her house. She hired a guy who charges by the hour and after about a week and less than half the job done she finally kicked him out of his house. He was paid at the end of every day though.

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


I'm currently iffy about the painter I plan to use because he's cheap, but.. seems to have very good reviews? Like half the price of other people cheap.

Dillbag
Mar 4, 2007

Click here to join Lem Lee in the Hell Of Being Cut To Pieces
Nap Ghost

Jaded Burnout posted:

I'm currently iffy about the painter I plan to use because he's cheap, but.. seems to have very good reviews? Like half the price of other people cheap.

Cash? My old painter was great, invoiced for big and corporate jobs but if it was a small family gig you could pay him about 60% of his normal rate if it was in cash.

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


Dillbag posted:

Cash? My old painter was great, invoiced for big and corporate jobs but if it was a small family gig you could pay him about 60% of his normal rate if it was in cash.

Cash for a discount yeah, but usually that doesn't stretch to 50% for most trades I've met. What I'll probably do is get him to do a small room that I could (re)do myself and if it's a good job get him to do the rest.

autism ZX spectrum
Feb 8, 2007

by Lowtax
Fun Shoe
I wouldn't be surprised if he showed up, asked to borrow your tools and then did a good job anyway.

kid sinister
Nov 16, 2002

Love the hose clamp slices! Those are service lugs on a power panel. What's the story here? Stealing power from a neighbor?

babyeatingpsychopath
Oct 28, 2000
Forum Veteran


canyoneer posted:

Their lead bridge builder was off somewhere running a church, I doubt he signed off on the construction.

I just wanted you to know this did not go unnoticed.

crazypeltast52
May 5, 2010



Dillbag posted:

Cash? My old painter was great, invoiced for big and corporate jobs but if it was a small family gig you could pay him about 60% of his normal rate if it was in cash.

The union trade guys I worked with would do side remodelling jobs for cash, depended on how busy regular work was. Some times they would even buy their supplies through us (their employer). We also had one project manager who did a side job by himself with our letterhead once, that was great when the homeowner came to our office about the project...

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HycoCam
Jul 14, 2016

You should have backed Transverse!

kid sinister posted:

Love the hose clamp slices! Those are service lugs on a power panel. What's the story here? Stealing power from a neighbor?

I answered proper way to join aluminum and copper wire on the electrical contractor exam. I think I nailed it...

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