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JLU was awesome. None of the characters had enough screentime to become grating and left you wanting more. Loved Green Arrow in it.
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Watching Lex Luthor's descent from businessman to purple-and-green jumpsuit terrorist to presidential candidate to Brainiac cultist was amazing. 
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JLU Luthor had one of my favorite burns. It's with grod right before he gets blasted into space. Lex: Goodbye, Grodd. It could have gone the other way. Grodd: It really could have, couldn't it? Lex Luthor: No. But why speak ill of the dead? JLU was solid goddamn gold and season 2 is the best superhero tv season ever made. Monaghan fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Aug 14, 2018 |
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Aug 14, 2018 20:50
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Clancy Brown was just the goddamn best Lex Luthor and shame on other actors trying to portray him especially that Michael Cera looking motherfucker who thought he was playing the Joker
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Aug 14, 2018 21:00
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Monaghan posted:JLU Luthor had one of my favorite burns. It's with grod right before he gets blasted into space. that whole villain vs. villain fight was loving awesome.
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Aug 14, 2018 21:01
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Cartoons generally shy away from continuity since they want to be accessible and the first two seasons of Justice League did that by sticking with two and three part storylines. But then in Unlimited they were like “Nope, time to do seasonal arcs that call back to events that happened 10 years ago in a different show. It was so rewarding as someone who grew up watching Superman to have the finale of that series play a big part in the Cadmus arc. And then all the callbacks in that final Batman Beyond centric episode. They really pushed the idea of a shared universe to the limits.
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Aug 14, 2018 23:01
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JLU also featured The Wall picking up the biggest Kirby Gun she could find and fighting Darkseid. Oh, and Jeffery Combs' Question. Can't forget him. Supergirl: "You go through my garbage!?" Question: "Please. I go through everyone's garbage."
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Aug 14, 2018 23:08
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Ccs posted:Cartoons generally shy away from continuity since they want to be accessible and the first two seasons of Justice League did that by sticking with two and three part storylines. But then in Unlimited they were like “Nope, time to do seasonal arcs that call back to events that happened 10 years ago in a different show. It was so rewarding as someone who grew up watching Superman to have the finale of that series play a big part in the Cadmus arc. And then all the callbacks in that final Batman Beyond centric episode. They really pushed the idea of a shared universe to the limits. They had a whole other season after the Batman Beyond episode.
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Aug 14, 2018 23:14
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I hate that episode.
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Aug 15, 2018 01:59
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Lurdiak posted:I hate that episode. What, you have a problem with Amanda Waller cloning Bruce Wayne, impregnating a woman against her will and then trying to murder this weird clone babies entire family?
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Aug 15, 2018 02:05
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Skwirl posted:What, you have a problem with Amanda Waller cloning Bruce Wayne, impregnating a woman against her will and then trying to murder this weird clone babies entire family? Funny thing is that despite how awful that all is, it still pales to the bullshit her main continuity counterpart does all the time
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Aug 15, 2018 02:55
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Skwirl posted:What, you have a problem with Amanda Waller cloning Bruce Wayne, impregnating a woman against her will and then trying to murder this weird clone babies entire family? It's no miscarried Barbara Gordon baby, but it's close.
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Aug 15, 2018 03:00
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Skwirl posted:What, you have a problem with Amanda Waller cloning Bruce Wayne, impregnating a woman against her will and then trying to murder this weird clone babies entire family? She doesn't impregnate Terry's mom, she just alters Terry's dad's ball DNA and lets nature take its course.
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Aug 15, 2018 03:07
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Lurdiak posted:It's no miscarried Barbara Gordon baby, but it's close. ..What?
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Aug 15, 2018 03:09
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muscles like this! posted:She doesn't impregnate Terry's mom, she just alters Terry's dad's ball DNA and lets nature take its course. It still sucks though because it cheapens Terry and Bruce's relationship by saying "yeah you were basically fated to be like him instead of you two coming together by happenstance and forging a natural bond."
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Aug 15, 2018 03:15
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ryonguy posted:..What? A really bad Batman Beyond comic has Bruce knock Babs up and she later miscarries. It has since been thankfully written out of continuity, but still gets brought up in discussions as an example of "it could always be worse"
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Aug 15, 2018 04:50
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Thompsons posted:It still sucks though because it cheapens Terry and Bruce's relationship by saying "yeah you were basically fated to be like him instead of you two coming together by happenstance and forging a natural bond." It was still happenstance pretty much.
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muscles like this! posted:She doesn't impregnate Terry's mom, she just alters Terry's dad's ball DNA and lets nature take its course. Don't forget her trying to kill Terry's parents.
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Thompsons posted:It still sucks though because it cheapens Terry and Bruce's relationship by saying "yeah you were basically fated to be like him instead of you two coming together by happenstance and forging a natural bond." There's also an element of denying the personal initiative of humans to decide their own fate if Terry's just genetically predestined to be a batman. That cheapens the whole self-made aspect that some people find appealing about Batman compared to other superheroes. Of course, Bruce Wayne didn't necessarily get a genetic boost, but he did spend his entire life coasting off of his inherited fortune and social standing in between putting the effort in to become Batman.
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Aug 15, 2018 06:08
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Yeah it cuts Terry's legs as a character out from under him. He had his own tragedy, distinct from Bruce, and he was never the same kind of person as Bruce is. He stepped into the role and made it his own through hard work and character progression that unfolds over the course of the show. It would be like a modern story revealing that Dick Grayson or Tim Drake were secret cloning projects made with Batman's DNA because how else could they do Batman stuff???
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Aug 15, 2018 09:32
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Android Blues posted:Yeah it cuts Terry's legs as a character out from under him. He had his own tragedy, distinct from Bruce, and he was never the same kind of person as Bruce is. He stepped into the role and made it his own through hard work and character progression that unfolds over the course of the show. It would be like a modern story revealing that Dick Grayson or Tim Drake were secret cloning projects made with Batman's DNA because how else could they do Batman stuff??? But how does that undermines Terry's tragedy? His Dad was killed by Jokerz. Just because it turned out he wasn't technically his biological father is irrelevant. In fact it says something that Amanda Waller attempted to engineer a Batman, but that failed. (And who knows how many other kids she orphaned trying to make them into Batman.) It was fate that made Terry into Batman. Fate and his own choices. His DNA doesn't come into it.
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Aug 15, 2018 12:10
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TwoPair posted:A really bad Batman Beyond comic has Bruce knock Babs up and she later miscarries. It has since been thankfully written out of continuity, but still gets brought up in discussions as an example of "it could always be worse" The Bruce/Babs thing is one of the worst things to come out of the Timmverse.
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SlothfulCobra posted:There's also an element of denying the personal initiative of humans to decide their own fate if Terry's just genetically predestined to be a batman. That cheapens the whole self-made aspect that some people find appealing about Batman compared to other superheroes. Yeah, this has long been one of my favorite aspects of Batman. Also, TAS Bruce at least would always try to help the homeless and downtrodden as well as just donating a ton to charity. Not sure if that’s in the comics too.
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Aug 15, 2018 13:38
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Yeah there's that kinda nice episode where he gets the ventriloquist a job at Wayne industries when he gets out of jail and protects him when his old gang start messing with him. I like when they write Batman doing stuff like that as well as actually going out and doing stuff at night.
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thebardyspoon posted:Yeah there's that kinda nice episode where he gets the ventriloquist a job at Wayne industries when he gets out of jail and protects him when his old gang start messing with him. I like when they write Batman doing stuff like that as well as actually going out and doing stuff at night. That was a good episode.
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Nanigans posted:Yeah, this has long been one of my favorite aspects of Batman. Also, TAS Bruce at least would always try to help the homeless and downtrodden as well as just donating a ton to charity. Not sure if that’s in the comics too. It is. Bruce will give a job to about anybody he runs across and Wayne Industries does massive charity work. Possibly only outdone by LexCorp.
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Aug 15, 2018 18:02
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Batman is so cool.
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thebardyspoon posted:Yeah there's that kinda nice episode where he gets the ventriloquist a job at Wayne industries when he gets out of jail and protects him when his old gang start messing with him. I like when they write Batman doing stuff like that as well as actually going out and doing stuff at night. Even though the animation is kinda rough and it has weird sound errors, one of my favorite episodes is Lock-Up, because it shows Bruce Wayne on the Arkham Asylum board of directors and the villain is an abusive warden. The entire episode is also a not so subtle critique of The Dark Knight Returns, with Lock-Up standing in for Miller's humorless, hateful control freak Batman. Nanigans posted:Batman is so cool. Charitable, humanitarian Batman is maybe 30% of all Batman comics ever published. There's way too much scowling, bone breaking rear end in a top hat for my tastes. And now I've just remembered that an old Batman comic I read featured Bruce Wayne being shamed for not supporting some organization or other, and the story resolving with Batman donating a huge check to said organization and the lady is like "Now there's an upstanding citizen, not like that Bruce Wayne!" Batman, have you ever heard of the IRS?
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Just watched the most recent 2 episodes of MArvel's Spider-Man...apparently they're gearing up for Superior Spider-Man in the next few episodes.
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Aug 15, 2018 23:21
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Batman has cheques?
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Dawgstar posted:It is. Bruce will give a job to about anybody he runs across and Wayne Industries does massive charity work. Possibly only outdone by LexCorp.  But this is right: Lurdiak posted:Charitable, humanitarian Batman is maybe 30% of all Batman comics ever published. There's way too much scowling, bone breaking rear end in a top hat for my tastes.
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Scaramouche posted:Batman has cheques? No way. Batman always pays by card. 
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Android Blues posted:Yeah it cuts Terry's legs as a character out from under him. He had his own tragedy, distinct from Bruce, and he was never the same kind of person as Bruce is. He stepped into the role and made it his own through hard work and character progression that unfolds over the course of the show. It would be like a modern story revealing that Dick Grayson or Tim Drake were secret cloning projects made with Batman's DNA because how else could they do Batman stuff??? Yeah, the difference in their tragedy and how they dealt with it informs the difference between the characters. It's why Terry always felt more like Spider-Man in the DC Universe than Batman Junior.
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pubic works project posted:that whole villain vs. villain fight was loving awesome. The entire league of super villains lead by Grodd arc was great. My favorite part being when Grodd finally reveals his mystery master plan to be just turning every human into apes and Lex as an ape just stares at him with a look of total unsurprise and disappointment.
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Oh yeah, Marvel Rising is up on youtube. It's apparently a prequel tv-length feature cut up into six shorts on youtube. Mostly explaining Spider-Gwen's whole deal. Which is kinda fun because how Kevin died is a bit different than in the comics. Beyond that, it looked pretty good! Fun little thing, though Squirrel Girl's not as good in it as i'd hope.
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Lurdiak posted:And now I've just remembered that an old Batman comic I read featured Bruce Wayne being shamed for not supporting some organization or other, and the story resolving with Batman donating a huge check to said organization and the lady is like "Now there's an upstanding citizen, not like that Bruce Wayne!" The IRS is coming for the Caped Crusading Tax Evader
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:Oh yeah, Marvel Rising is up on youtube. It's apparently a prequel tv-length feature cut up into six shorts on youtube. Mostly explaining Spider-Gwen's whole deal. Which is kinda fun because how Kevin died is a bit different than in the comics. I liked how Kevin was Iceman with the numbers filed off. All Gwen needed was a fire buddy and she would've had her own Amazing Friends.
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Really enjoyed the marvel/SG EPs but I'm not sure if that's because I just really like seeing them on screen together or they were actually the best part. Didn't find myself liking Gwen that much which since this whole intro arc is gonna be about her kinda sucks I hope patriot being an annoying rear end in a top hat isn't gonna be a forever trait because it took less than three minutes to become grating to sit through E: also hope it gets popular enough to get a real budget too site fucked around with this message at 06:39 on Aug 16, 2018 |
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:Oh yeah, Marvel Rising is up on youtube.
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Thompsons posted:It still sucks though because it cheapens Terry and Bruce's relationship by saying "yeah you were basically fated to be like him instead of you two coming together by happenstance and forging a natural bond." The thing is, that episode, and the whole of Batman Beyond, is showing how even though Terry is Batman now, he's not going to be Bruce, he is his own man.
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