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Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

Several Goblins posted:

I pre-ordered Halloween. Looking forward to that. I'm glad you mentioned Suspiria, because I forgot about that release. Do you know which version I need to grab? A quick Google shows an Italian import for about $35, but was that the only 4k release? Or is the synapse release also 4k mastered? Some of the sites I'm seeing are all from 2017 and are kinda unclear.

IT was my first 4k purchase, that's one of my favorite horror movies in the past few years. I'll check out that Phantasm release too. Thanks!

Yea the Synapse blu ray is the one you want, this one here: https://www.amazon.com/Suspiria-Blu-ray-Jessica-Harper/dp/B07987TFN7/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1534378205&sr=8-1&keywords=Suspiria+blu+ray

It's the 4k remaster just without the fancy stuff that came with a limited edition steelbook when it was first released. Pretty sure all the extras on the actual disc are the same though.

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Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer
This reminded me that there isn't a blu ray or remaster of Dead Alive, which is insanely infuriating considering it's Peter loving Jackson.

edit: Did anyone ever get that Friday the 13th blu ray single case collection with that ugly-rear end cover? If it's as good as or better than the 'From Crystal Lake to Manhattan' collection, I want it, but it looks pretty cheap and lazy.

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer

Several Goblins posted:

I'm sure this has been asked somewhere in here before, but I didn't see anything. What are some of the best horror Blu-ray or 4k releases, as far as quality and extras go? I just picked up the Shout Factory release of Return of the Living Dead and it's got a ton of stuff to dig into.

I've heard Shout Factory in general, but are there any must-owns for being hugely improved as Blu's, remasters, or tons of extras?

Almost Blue won this cool edition of Eaten Alive from the May Challenge* that is pretty awesome. If you like The Church, that just got an amazing remaster set out (might have been limited edition). I just bought this copy of Tales from the Hood. Next I'm getting the collector's edition of In The Mouth of Madness. Criterion just put out an awesome Silence of the Lambs.

Now's pretty much the best time ever to collect blu ray's for great horror movies. There seems to be a good one every month.


*(he was supposed to win a gift subscription to FilmStruck, but that didn't work out because FilmStruck's gifting situation is weird)

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
It's pretty safe to assume that if it's a Carpenter film released by Shout Factory, it's going to be the definitive version both in terms of the transfer and the extras.

Zwabu
Aug 7, 2006

I think I have somehow avoided seeing In The Mouth of Madness all these years, but I've now rectified that. What a good horror film! I love Horror with a capital H.

I really like how Sam Neill really seemed to dig playing that role. The very final scene brought a smile to my lips.

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
An alright dude.
I've been watching Carpenter films all week. Think I am gonna watch Village of the Damned tonight.

Tart Kitty
Dec 17, 2016

Oh, well, that's all water under the bridge, as I always say. Water under the bridge!

Hollismason posted:

I've been watching Carpenter films all week. Think I am gonna watch Village of the Damned tonight.

Ooh. I haven’t seen that in years. I always kind of forget about it in Carpenter’s filmography, despite being a super fan of almost all of his stuff. I think I need to revisit it.

Wilhelm Scream
Apr 1, 2008

Franchescanado posted:

This reminded me that there isn't a blu ray or remaster of Dead Alive, which is insanely infuriating considering it's Peter loving Jackson.

edit: Did anyone ever get that Friday the 13th blu ray single case collection with that ugly-rear end cover? If it's as good as or better than the 'From Crystal Lake to Manhattan' collection, I want it, but it looks pretty cheap and lazy.

There was a blu ray of Dead Alive, I managed to get it for like $12 off Amazon a few years back

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
Everyone should play DUKE games.

:dukedog:
Yeah there was a blu-ray that's more expensive now because for whatever reason or another it went out of print a little early. $12 is awesome.


Sadly there's never been a truly uncut release of it since it was in theaters/its first VHS release except IIRC an early DVD release in Germany and Spain - even the director's cut is still missing quite a bit of stuff. But there are fortunately some great fan edits that keep it fully intact.

drat shame, I'd buy a fully uncut blu-ray in a heartbeat.

Several Goblins
Jul 30, 2006

"What the hell do they mean? Beefcake?"


Thanks for the recommendations all, time to do some shopping. Starting with that Suspiria remaster. Also, I've actually never seen Eaten Alive, but that edition has a bunch of interesting sounding stuff on it. Is it worth a blind buy?

I need to check out that Criterion Silence of the Lambs too. I had the OOP DVD of it from Criterion years ago and it was terrific.

I'm a fairly undiscerning horror fan. Whether it's good, campy, shlocky or awful, I tend to still gravitate towards it, with the exception of more "torture porn"-ey movies like most of Eli Roth's catalogue, or the more mean-spirited old video nasties. And I've got a strong affinity for awful horror movies.

Several Goblins fucked around with this message at 03:27 on Aug 16, 2018

Wilhelm Scream
Apr 1, 2008

For a movie that is missing stuff, it's still the best movie I've ever seen.

One day maybe Peter Jackson will give us SEs of all his older stuff (wishful thinking on my part probably)

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
Oh poo poo also Criterion's recent Night of the Living Dead blu ray is absolutely ridiculous. It's like a brand new movie it's unbelievable.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

Basebf555 posted:

Oh poo poo also Criterion's recent Night of the Living Dead blu ray is absolutely ridiculous. It's like a brand new movie it's unbelievable.

I would love to hear you elaborate on this a little more if you feel like. One of my favorite horror classics of all time.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

DrNutt posted:

I would love to hear you elaborate on this a little more if you feel like. One of my favorite horror classics of all time.

I was able to appreciate the craftsmanship in the film on a whole new level than ever before because of the lovely versions of it I'd seen in the past. Lighting first and foremost, it's just more dramatic and stylish than I ever gave Romero credit for.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

Basebf555 posted:

I was able to appreciate the craftsmanship in the film on a whole new level than ever before because of the lovely versions of it I'd seen in the past. Lighting first and foremost, it's just more dramatic and stylish than I ever gave Romero credit for.

Thanks. I am going to have to jump on that I think. The DVD I have makes the lighting look really lovely and I always thought it was a great movie in spite of the lighting and whatnot.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
Everyone should play DUKE games.

:dukedog:

Basebf555 posted:

I was able to appreciate the craftsmanship in the film on a whole new level than ever before because of the lovely versions of it I'd seen in the past. Lighting first and foremost, it's just more dramatic and stylish than I ever gave Romero credit for.

I saw this version on the big screen last year and it was one of the greatest things I've ever seen on the big screen.

Wilhelm Scream posted:

For a movie that is missing stuff, it's still the best movie I've ever seen.

One day maybe Peter Jackson will give us SEs of all his older stuff (wishful thinking on my part probably)

Oh yeah just to be clear EVERYONE should watch Dead Alive any way they can, it's amazing. The only cut I'd avoid is the 85 minute one.

Neo Rasa fucked around with this message at 03:40 on Aug 16, 2018

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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Fart City posted:

Ooh. I haven’t seen that in years. I always kind of forget about it in Carpenter’s filmography, despite being a super fan of almost all of his stuff. I think I need to revisit it.

I had no clue Carpenter directed a dramady(???) with Chevy Chase about being an Invisible Man. What the hell

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
Everyone should play DUKE games.

:dukedog:

CelticPredator posted:

I had no clue Carpenter directed a dramady(???) with Chevy Chase about being an Invisible Man. What the hell

It was made at an interesting point in time for special effects evolution, believe it or not it's worth seeing just for how they execute the invisibility.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

Basebf555 posted:

I was able to appreciate the craftsmanship in the film on a whole new level than ever before because of the lovely versions of it I'd seen in the past. Lighting first and foremost, it's just more dramatic and stylish than I ever gave Romero credit for.

Yeah the restoration really really helps here because it's a virtual certainty you'd only ever seen a lovely copy of the movie before.

Tart Kitty
Dec 17, 2016

Oh, well, that's all water under the bridge, as I always say. Water under the bridge!

CelticPredator posted:

I had no clue Carpenter directed a dramady(???) with Chevy Chase about being an Invisible Man. What the hell

Yeah, like Neo Rasa said, it's a really technically interesting movie. I mean...it's not good. But it's worth watching?

You get to see the invisible man vomit.

So there's that.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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I’ll watch it because it’s Carpenter. I’m gonna even finish Ghost of Mars.

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

The best part of Carpenter's Invisible Man movie is Sam Neill as the antagonist government agent chasing Chevy Chase.

Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.

ruddiger posted:

The best part of Carpenter's Invisible Man movie is Sam Neill as the antagonist government agent chasing Chevy Chase.

I think I have to see this despite the warnings about its quality.

Tart Kitty
Dec 17, 2016

Oh, well, that's all water under the bridge, as I always say. Water under the bridge!

CelticPredator posted:

I’ll watch it because it’s Carpenter. I’m gonna even finish Ghost of Mars.

You’ll get no pushback from me. All Carpenter has some merit, even bottom-Tier Carpenter.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
Everyone should play DUKE games.

:dukedog:

Tuxedo Catfish posted:

I think I have to see this despite the warnings about its quality.

DEFINITELY see it, like Fart City said it's a bad movie, but it's still worth watching.

david_a
Apr 24, 2010




Megamarm

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

Yeah the restoration really really helps here because it's a virtual certainty you'd only ever seen a lovely copy of the movie before.
I dunno, I had the red-boxed "Millennium Edition" DVD and they put in a pretty good effort for a 2002 release (it's the NTSC Elite Entertainment release): http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film6/blu-ray_reviews_80/the_night_of_the_living_dead_blu-ray.htm
(the PAL version looks godawful for some reason; why are there weird colors everywhere?)

A friend had one of those bargain-bin shovelware DVDs and that one was utterly laughable in comparison (everything was blown out, the picture wasn't stable, filled with horrible compression artifacts, etc).

A lot of it is probably because Blu-Ray handles grain noise way better than DVD, so everything looks so much sharper because it doesn't end up blurred together. This is super noticeable on something like the '33 King Kong where you can really see waves of differing grain patterns on each stop-motion frame in the Blu-Ray that just isn't there on the DVD.

The Criterion NotLD does look way better than I ever expected to see the movie look and I noticed a lot more details in it (for some reason I never caught that Ben is next to the Cemetery Ghoul on the bonfire).

Untrustable
Mar 17, 2009





Y'all talkin about good Blu-ray releases and no one mentions the awesome Shout Factory release of Tales From The Crypt Presents: Demon Knight? It is really great you should all buy it. Best Billy Zane performance.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

david_a posted:

I dunno, I had the red-boxed "Millennium Edition" DVD and they put in a pretty good effort for a 2002 release (it's the NTSC Elite Entertainment release): http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film6/blu-ray_reviews_80/the_night_of_the_living_dead_blu-ray.htm
(the PAL version looks godawful for some reason; why are there weird colors everywhere?)

A friend had one of those bargain-bin shovelware DVDs and that one was utterly laughable in comparison (everything was blown out, the picture wasn't stable, filled with horrible compression artifacts, etc).

A lot of it is probably because Blu-Ray handles grain noise way better than DVD, so everything looks so much sharper because it doesn't end up blurred together. This is super noticeable on something like the '33 King Kong where you can really see waves of differing grain patterns on each stop-motion frame in the Blu-Ray that just isn't there on the DVD.

The Criterion NotLD does look way better than I ever expected to see the movie look and I noticed a lot more details in it (for some reason I never caught that Ben is next to the Cemetery Ghoul on the bonfire).

Yep, I have the Millenium Edition too, and the Criterion practically looks like a different movie.

Popelmon
Jan 24, 2010

wow
so spin

Untrustable posted:

Y'all talkin about good Blu-ray releases and no one mentions the awesome Shout Factory release of Tales From The Crypt Presents: Demon Knight? It is really great you should all buy it. Best Billy Zane performance.

I love that movie so much. Billy Zane's performance is so much fun. Probably one of the most underrated 90's movies.

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer
I've never seen the Snoop Dogg film Bones because it has a reputation for being terrible, but it has the same director of Demon Knight. What's the deal?


Several Goblins posted:

Also, I've actually never seen Eaten Alive, but that edition has a bunch of interesting sounding stuff on it. Is it worth a blind buy?

Probably, but it has a good quality version streaming on Amazon Prime right now, and it's also on YouTube. If $30 is nothing to you for a blind buy, then go for it I guess, but you can very easily watch it first.


Basebf555, do you have a copy of this special edition of From Beyond?

Spatulater bro!
Aug 19, 2003

Punch! Punch! Punch!

Neo Rasa posted:

Yeah there was a blu-ray that's more expensive now because for whatever reason or another it went out of print a little early. $12 is awesome.


Sadly there's never been a truly uncut release of it since it was in theaters/its first VHS release except IIRC an early DVD release in Germany and Spain - even the director's cut is still missing quite a bit of stuff. But there are fortunately some great fan edits that keep it fully intact.

drat shame, I'd buy a fully uncut blu-ray in a heartbeat.

I have this region 2 DVD from Universal, which goes by the title Braindead and contains footage not included in the region 1 DVD cut (which I also own because its picture quality is way better).



I'd pay top dollar for some sort of LE Blu-ray from Arrow or something with a fully intact cut.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

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CelticPredator posted:

I had no clue Carpenter directed a dramady(???) with Chevy Chase about being an Invisible Man. What the hell

I watched it as part of the October Horror Challenge last year. It's the best Carpenter movie starring Sam Neill.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

Franchescanado posted:

Basebf555, do you have a copy of this special edition of From Beyond?

Of course! In fact, when it's all said and done I wouldn't be surprised if I have to buy it again in a few years just from wearing the original disc out.

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer

Jedit posted:

I watched it as part of the October Horror Challenge last year. It's the best Carpenter movie starring Sam Neill.

This is blasphemy. I suffer personal turmoil over whether I like In The Mouth of Madness more than Halloween.

Basebf555 posted:

Of course! In fact, when it's all said and done I wouldn't be surprised if I have to buy it again in a few years just from wearing the original disc out.

Are the special features good?

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

Franchescanado posted:

Are the special features good?

They're ok, best thing is a Combs/Crampton/Gordon commentary track but I think that was already on a DVD from like ten years ago so it's not exclusive to Shout Factory's release.

There are a few little featurettes but the real draw is the fantastic transfer on the film itself and then that commentary. Although there is a second commentary track that I haven't listened to yet with one of the writers of the movie.

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer
Guess I'll invest in it soon. I gave my DVD copy away to my neighbor as a moving gift.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
Crampton understandably says in the commentary that it's her favorite role that she's ever played. Her, Combs, and Gordon are like three of the most friendly people to ever be assembled on one commentary track so it's very endearing. Gordon and Combs go out of their way to praise Crampton's performance in the ending scene, they all really seem to enjoy each other's company.

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty
So, on the topic of obscure films by John Carpenter, is there any consensus or even just experience regarding all his non-horror tv movie stuff? Like, everyone always mentions his Elvis biopic was good, but nobody ever mentions all the other projects where like, he wrote the screenplay and then the tv movie went into obscurity (several westerns for example), or heck, I've never heard word one about his made for tv (written AND directed) teen beach comedy "Zuma Beach"...

Stryder
Oct 3, 2002

Hollismason posted:

I've been watching Carpenter films all week. Think I am gonna watch Village of the Damned tonight.

I finally filled in this gap in my Carpenter viewing last winter, and it's... weird. Like, Carpenter has said that he had no passion for it because he was just picking up a studio paycheck, and it totally shows. But at the same time, there are still some good, creepy moments in it and once again, no matter the film or role, Mark Hamill refuses to just phone it in. I actually didn't know/remember that he was in it, so I had a momentary flash of "This movie has both Superman AND Luke Skywalker!?"

Actually, between this and Invisible Man, it's kind of interesting that actors like Chris Reeves, Hamill, or Chevy Chase went to Carpenter these kind of "I want to break type" roles. I wish it had worked out better in both cases.

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Spatulater bro!
Aug 19, 2003

Punch! Punch! Punch!

Choco1980 posted:

So, on the topic of obscure films by John Carpenter, is there any consensus or even just experience regarding all his non-horror tv movie stuff? Like, everyone always mentions his Elvis biopic was good, but nobody ever mentions all the other projects where like, he wrote the screenplay and then the tv movie went into obscurity (several westerns for example), or heck, I've never heard word one about his made for tv (written AND directed) teen beach comedy "Zuma Beach"...

He made a TV horror/thriller in 1978 called Someone’s Watching Me. Sort of a Rear Window homage. It's decent.

e: poo poo you said non-horror. Oh well.

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